An Accurate Unit Emblem for Task Force Butler.

[Theron Nett]

The Emblem used for Task Force Butler in game is inaccurate for it is a unit crest that wasn't created till 1964.
The correct Emblem for TFB would be the 102nd Cavalry Regiment crest.

Evidence from the US Army
https://history.army.mil/html/forcestruc/lineages/branches/armor-cav/102cvrg.htm

What the unit crest of the 102nd looks like
https://saundersinsignia.com/cdn/shop/products/us-army-102nd-armored-cavalry-unit-crest-713461_grande.png?v=1690126603

Edit: Deleted VI Corps information. I was just reminded about unit APO numbers. Just emailed the New Jersey Militia Museum in trying to obtain the 117th's APO number during their time in TFB. That will give us the unit patch of this unit.

[BigMek1992]

so 117th squadron was part of 102nd regiment, right?

also on the topic of unit emblems:
why does 1 Piechoty have simply polish flag as insignia? Why not the piast eagle for Ludowe Wojsko Polskie for example...

[ChargingSnail]

BigMek1992 původně napsal:

so 117th squadron was part of 102nd regiment, right?

also on the topic of unit emblems:
why does 1 Piechoty have simply polish flag as insignia? Why not the piast eagle for Ludowe Wojsko Polskie for example...

Emblem for 1-st Piechoty is not a bnig deal. Their infantry wearing soviet uniforms, while irl they wore uniforms similiar to polish int the begining of the war.

[BigMek1992]

I think there was not that much polish uniform in summer of 1944
and emblem is still weird, just a repeat of a flag

[ChargingSnail]

BigMek1992 původně napsal:

I think there was not that much polish uniform in summer of 1944
and emblem is still weird, just a repeat of a flag

Not polish-made but resemble polish.
https://muzeum.legionowo.pl/archiwum-wystaw/kosciuszkowcy-1943-1945-drogi-zolnierzy-1-dywizji-piechoty-im-tadeusza-kosciuszki/
This is how they looked in1944

[Theron Nett]

BigMek1992 původně napsal:

so 117th squadron was part of 102nd regiment, right?

also on the topic of unit emblems:
why does 1 Piechoty have simply polish flag as insignia? Why not the piast eagle for Ludowe Wojsko Polskie for example...

Yes. The 117th Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron was the 2nd Squadron (Battalion) of the 102nd Cavalry Reconnaissance Regiment.

After the war it merged back into the 102nd.

In the 60's the 102nd became a Armored Regiment, so they broke off a Company and made it into the 117th Regiment based off the 117th Squadron. Which is the Crest we see in game for TFB.

It is why the 117th crest and the 102nd crest look similar.

[Spartanjackwar]

The 102nd logo makes sense to me since they're close enough to an official symbol for the squadron.

[Theron Nett]

Spartanjackwar původně napsal:

The 102nd logo makes sense to me since they're close enough to an official symbol for the squadron.

I would also recommend US IV Corps from Task Force 45 or US 5th Army, but 5th Army would be pushing it. Yes the 45th AAA Brigade was a 5th Army asset, but it was assigned to IV Corps to provide AAA coverage. Then IV Corp decided to make it into an Infantry element and supplemented it with officers from IV Corps HQ to help lead their newly founded Infantry elements.

[BigMek1992]

so while we are on the topic of emblems I wanted to ask if someone knows the origin of ingame emblems of these divisions: (is it like Rosselsprung having ss gebirgsjäger prinz eugen emblem, or something else)

panzerverband Strachwitz
gruppe Harteneck
sperrverband Kessel
ryhma Raappana
KG von Tettau

[[EUG] MadMat]

BigMek1992 původně napsal:

so while we are on the topic of emblems I wanted to ask if someone knows the origin of ingame emblems of these divisions: (is it like Rosselsprung having ss gebirgsjäger prinz eugen emblem, or something else)

panzerverband Strachwitz
gruppe Harteneck
sperrverband Kessel
ryhma Raappana
KG von Tettau

"Named" German battelgroup usually take their namesack's personnal coat-of-arms.
In the special case of Harteneck, I think it is from the Kavallerie-Brigade which formed its core.
Raappana, I don't recall.

[BigMek1992]

I see, my thought was similar, thank you

[Theron Nett]

EUG MadMat původně napsal:

BigMek1992 původně napsal:

so while we are on the topic of emblems I wanted to ask if someone knows the origin of ingame emblems of these divisions: (is it like Rosselsprung having ss gebirgsjäger prinz eugen emblem, or something else)

panzerverband Strachwitz
gruppe Harteneck
sperrverband Kessel
ryhma Raappana
KG von Tettau

"Named" German battelgroup usually take their namesack's personnal coat-of-arms.
In the special case of Harteneck, I think it is from the Kavallerie-Brigade which formed its core.
Raappana, I don't recall.

Any thoughts on what I was saying about the 102nd Unit Crest? I can provide much more supportive evidence to show the 102nd Unit Crest is the Crest of the 117th Squadron.

[Chief Berto]

+1

[Theron Nett]

I Deleted VI Corps information. I was just reminded about unit APO numbers and how this can be used to find the Parent Unit of military formations. Just emailed the New Jersey Militia Museum in trying to obtain the 117th's APO number during their time in TFB. That will give us the unit patch of this unit.