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Possebility of 3rd Waffen-SS Totenkopf?
They're already in the campaign and they do have an Elite status, being one of the major "fire brigade" divisions in quite a few larger battles during the war including Mannsteins miracle at Kharkov, tbh they'd just be a perfect fit in the game.
Originally posted by Wyvern:
People want iconic divisions and while in large part it's for the wrong reasons, a lot of the SS divisions are iconic/infamous, even if they wouldn't offer anything unique gameplay wise.

It also doesn't help that Eugen's moral defense when it comes to omitting those divs is awfully inconsistent at best, given the plethora of units we already have in game/are getting with some absolutely horrific track records, including everything on a scale from the Goumiers and NOV partisans to the RSI, NKVD, Ustase, and a myriad of other SS units.

Personally I don't care for any more SS units, but I think to say it's somehow super weird or wrong for people to request such divisions given the precedent we have in game is just uncalled for.
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ChargingSnail Jul 8, 2023 @ 3:04pm 
Just use search option, and you get an answer.
KiwiBirb Jul 12, 2023 @ 2:22am 
No

A) the division was anaemically equipped by 1944 - 31 Stug, 28 Panzer IV, 10 Tiger, and no Panthers
B) the division is THE symbol for Antisemites/Nazis, the soldiers were literally genocidal death camp guards -this should not be supported
[EUG] MadMat  [developer] Jul 12, 2023 @ 11:13am 
Originally posted by The Ezie Dude:
Possebility of 3rd Waffen-SS Totenkopf?
None.

Originally posted by The Ezie Dude:
They're already in the campaign and they do have an Elite status,
They first and foremost are concentration camps' guards, and we've stated many times that although we've got no issue featuring SS troops, there are a few among the worst scumbags of WW2 which we won't: Dirlewanger, Totenkopf, Das Reich ...

They are in the campaign because we're not rewriting History. But we won't shine a light on them if we can avoid it.
ChargingSnail Jul 12, 2023 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by EUG MadMat:
Originally posted by The Ezie Dude:
Possebility of 3rd Waffen-SS Totenkopf?
None.

Originally posted by The Ezie Dude:
They're already in the campaign and they do have an Elite status,
They first and foremost are concentration camps' guards, and we've stated many times that although we've got no issue featuring SS troops, there are a few among the worst scumbags of WW2 which we won't: Dirlewanger, Totenkopf, Das Reich ...

They are in the campaign because we're not rewriting History. But we won't shine a light on them if we can avoid it.
Just post it in main section, to avoid this crap in future.
☧ Sextus ☧ Jul 12, 2023 @ 1:44pm 
SD Normandy had 1st SS Panzer Division Leibstandarte but they didnt bringed andything interesting to table.Standar panther+panzer 4+Puma panzer division.In my opinion something like an hungarian division or romanian division much more interesting than stardart panzer division with SS badges.
Originally posted by EUG MadMat:
Originally posted by The Ezie Dude:
Possebility of 3rd Waffen-SS Totenkopf?
None.

Originally posted by The Ezie Dude:
They're already in the campaign and they do have an Elite status,
They first and foremost are concentration camps' guards, and we've stated many times that although we've got no issue featuring SS troops, there are a few among the worst scumbags of WW2 which we won't: Dirlewanger, Totenkopf, Das Reich ...

They are in the campaign because we're not rewriting History. But we won't shine a light on them if we can avoid it.
Yeah, how about no? Eugen has already shown quite clearly that a combat unit can be in the game even if it has KZ guards in its ranks, and while the Totenkpf division was initially formed out of smaller SS groups, Heimwehr Danzig and the Kz gurads that was in 39 and considering that the game takes place in 44 that's hardly relevant. Y'all can rant about Dirlewanger as much as you want, but don't compare one of the Waffen-SS most elite divisions to one made up drafted felons and the mentally ill who's major victories is only against light partisans and civilian forces, it won't stick.
[EUG] MadMat  [developer] Jul 16, 2023 @ 7:01am 
Originally posted by The Ezie Dude:
Yeah, how about no? Eugen has already shown quite clearly (...)
What about : "I am Eugen". ;)

Originally posted by The Ezie Dude:
it won't stick.
I does, because it is how it is.
Last edited by [EUG] MadMat; Jul 16, 2023 @ 7:01am
Pathfinder Serza Jul 17, 2023 @ 12:53am 
Originally posted by EUG MadMat:
Originally posted by The Ezie Dude:
Yeah, how about no? Eugen has already shown quite clearly (...)
What about : "I am Eugen". ;)

Originally posted by The Ezie Dude:
it won't stick.
I does, because it is how it is.

Gasp! How dare you not include his heroes in the game...

Seriously, that's the vibe I'm getting here from this guy.
Twan Jul 17, 2023 @ 3:46pm 
Originally posted by EUG MadMat:
Originally posted by The Ezie Dude:
Possebility of 3rd Waffen-SS Totenkopf?
None.

Originally posted by The Ezie Dude:
They're already in the campaign and they do have an Elite status,
They first and foremost are concentration camps' guards, and we've stated many times that although we've got no issue featuring SS troops, there are a few among the worst scumbags of WW2 which we won't: Dirlewanger, Totenkopf, Das Reich ...

They are in the campaign because we're not rewriting History. But we won't shine a light on them if we can avoid it.

Much better stance than most would have had at least, respect.
heresj0hnnie Jul 18, 2023 @ 4:34pm 
Why are people obsessed about this div?

The devs have said time and time again they won’t introduce it because of the genocides it committed in WW2
ArcaniteM Jul 18, 2023 @ 5:32pm 
I dont care about the camps, at all, not even a little.
But I do agree it would be more fun to add more minor power divisions into the game.
To add more variety to the Axis. There are only so many flavors of german panzer divisions you can make before they start to look way too similar.

I like axis, but I only play the skyjaeger division, when it comes to a only german one.
The other 2 are the Croat one, and the Lithuanian one.

Allies already have sooooo many countries represented on their side. I want Axis to get some more. With Bulgaria coming.
KiwiBirb Jul 19, 2023 @ 1:35pm 
Originally posted by ArcaniteM:
I dont care about the camps, at all, not even a little.
But I do agree it would be more fun to add more minor power divisions into the game.
To add more variety to the Axis. There are only so many flavors of german panzer divisions you can make before they start to look way too similar.

I like axis, but I only play the skyjaeger division, when it comes to a only german one.
The other 2 are the Croat one, and the Lithuanian one.

Allies already have sooooo many countries represented on their side. I want Axis to get some more. With Bulgaria coming.
bulgaria is on the allied sideXD
ArcaniteM Jul 19, 2023 @ 4:44pm 
Originally posted by KiwiBirb:
Originally posted by ArcaniteM:
I dont care about the camps, at all, not even a little.
But I do agree it would be more fun to add more minor power divisions into the game.
To add more variety to the Axis. There are only so many flavors of german panzer divisions you can make before they start to look way too similar.

I like axis, but I only play the skyjaeger division, when it comes to a only german one.
The other 2 are the Croat one, and the Lithuanian one.

Allies already have sooooo many countries represented on their side. I want Axis to get some more. With Bulgaria coming.
bulgaria is on the allied sideXD

That is so sad.
I understand they didnt fight along side Axis in any land battles.
But I was hoping they would be similar to Romania and have divisions on both sides.
✠Cherrybomb✠ Jul 20, 2023 @ 8:44am 
Originally posted by ArcaniteM:
Originally posted by KiwiBirb:
bulgaria is on the allied sideXD

That is so sad.
I understand they didnt fight along side Axis in any land battles.
But I was hoping they would be similar to Romania and have divisions on both sides.
They did in the invasion of Yugoslavia and Greek. But I think it feels weird to have an fully axis equipped division on the allies side in an asymetrical multiplayer game Steel Division is supposed to. Same like the new Romanians on Allies side that are better euqipped with German weapons than within the Axis ranks.
Complex Strategy Jul 20, 2023 @ 9:29am 
3rd SS wouldn't even add anything interesting. It would literally just be a copy paste division of like 5 Panzer and 12 SS mashed together. Incredibly boring and more then likely not even that good.
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Date Posted: Jul 8, 2023 @ 1:33pm
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