Is it worth buying now?

[Comrade]

Gteetings, generals!
There are a lot of DLC's and a small playerbase (590 players currently online), but the game looks realistic and deep. Can you help by answering two questions?
1. Is it difficult to find a game in a lobby? How long does it take?
2. Is it possible to be compatetive with base edition without DLC's?

[CaptainSpacetime]

1v1 is fairly quick but you'll have to wait around for 10v10 matches

the kindof "realistic-ish but not too realistic but also not too gamey" niche is prettty uh niche, but people are still playing

[Comrade]

Thank you for the answer.
DLC's are pay to win or optional?

[Fischy]

pay to lose

[CaptainSpacetime]

i don't really play online but yeah if anything the DLC is sometimes pay to lose lol. like the more "fun" DLC divisions aren't necessarily better.

[Comrade]

Thank you both.

[soontir fel]

there are some rather strong divisions in DLC but there are as previously stated a lot of divisions in DLC that aren't really that good. I don't remember which divisions are DLC and which aren't but you should be able to get by with at least a few of the base game divisions

[Comrade]

Thank you, soontir fel.

[Protoss|]

DLC divisions aint Above the Base games div in average. Some of the base game divs are top of the line (28th Jäger, 20th panzer, Hungarian Lovas for the Axis, 44th Gv Tank, 26th Gv, 97th Gv for the Sovjets). So yeah DLC mostly add flavour. Esp when it comes to western allies and minor nations (DLCs add Greece, NZ, Romania, Finland, Poland, UK, US, France, Italy and Yugoslavia and alot more german and Sovjet divs to the game).

[Comrade]

Thank you, Protosszocker.
I've bought the game already and currently studying mechanics. Game looks very promising and facinating.

[schepphimself]

I looked for threads like this because this pay to win argument comes up a lot.
In my experience, you can play this game up to competitive lvl with only the base game. Skill will almost always triumph over a strong divs. If you reach the level of play where you are playing tournaments, however. You pretty much have to have all the divisions to properly counter-pick the enemy choice I think it's totally feasable to invest into the DLCs, then. Happy gaming and see you in game!

[Outdated]

you get a lot of good stuff just buying the base game.
as for pay to win: the game has a hard and steep learning curve.
meaning skill is incredibly important for the outcome of each game. Which in turn can offcourse also be incredibly frustrating.

all in all the Eugene games are pretty much one of a kind and if you want to comand a large force in battle this is it,

[Name]

15-60 minutes to get a 10v10 game going, you can work on battlegroups while you wait. Highly recommend. SD2 is god tier RTS. No other RTS can compare. All other RTS games = checkers, SD2 = chess.