What is the deal with this game

[Pvt. Meatwad]

What is wrong with this game why do my tanks get shredded so easily its really irritating half the time they get shot to ♥♥♥♥ by something they cant even see. Also the aircrafts are BS they can destroy my units but my AA does F all and my aircraft just get shot down. I try concentrating fire with my armor but it hardly helps

[GarbageGames]

You need recons to see the at's which are shooting out of the forest... Tanks have bad sight.

[Pvt. Meatwad]

Originally posted by Alles Müll Games:

You need recons to see the at's which are shooting out of the forest... Tanks have bad sight.

oh that makes sense. it seems like attacking you take wayyyyy higher casualties then defending which makes sense but it doesn't make for super fun game play.

[nigo_BR ᵀᴹ]

Originally posted by TechnoloJesus:

it seems like attacking you take wayyyyy higher casualties then defending which makes sense but it doesn't make for super fun game play.

Yes, its fun.

[Δ*Alpha.]

Originally posted by TechnoloJesus:

Originally posted by Alles Müll Games:

You need recons to see the at's which are shooting out of the forest... Tanks have bad sight.

oh that makes sense. it seems like attacking you take wayyyyy higher casualties then defending which makes sense but it doesn't make for super fun game play.

Stop being bad lmao. What is it with zoomers and hating any kind of challenge?

[Pvt. Meatwad]

Originally posted by Δ*Alpha.:

Originally posted by TechnoloJesus:

oh that makes sense. it seems like attacking you take wayyyyy higher casualties then defending which makes sense but it doesn't make for super fun game play.

Stop being bad lmao. What is it with zoomers and hating any kind of challenge?

what the ♥♥♥♥ is a zoomer and stop being a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ tool im sick of getting spammed get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ douche bag. also you have like one game what the ♥♥♥♥ do you know about anything loser.

[fycj]

Originally posted by TechnoloJesus:

Originally posted by Δ*Alpha.:

Stop being bad lmao. What is it with zoomers and hating any kind of challenge?

what the ♥♥♥♥ is a zoomer and stop being a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ tool im sick of getting spammed get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ douche bag. also you have like one game what the ♥♥♥♥ do you know about anything loser.

Chill, just join the sd2 bootcamp discord and you will have more fun, as in any game as you know
more about what you are doing you can have more fun with it, you are probably confused with the mechanics so it looks convoluted but its actually pretty simple once you realize what is important.
I wouldnt play team games if you are a new player as you will get team stacked to death and outspammed in deck and income probably, play with a friend or ask for a game in the discord and you will be fine

[Pvt. Meatwad]

Originally posted by n1g0_br:

Originally posted by TechnoloJesus:

it seems like attacking you take wayyyyy higher casualties then defending which makes sense but it doesn't make for super fun game play.

Yes, its fun.

That part isnt its pretty ridiculous But it a cool game I have like 200 hrs in it I'm just sick of getting spammed seems like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that the allies consistently get more units it would be fine if the German units were better but they arent. like how the ♥♥♥♥ does a t-70 take out several stugs and pz4s its pretty dumb.

[Pvt. Meatwad]

Originally posted by fycj:

Originally posted by TechnoloJesus:

what the ♥♥♥♥ is a zoomer and stop being a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ tool im sick of getting spammed get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ douche bag. also you have like one game what the ♥♥♥♥ do you know about anything loser.

Chill, just join the sd2 bootcamp discord and you will have more fun, as in any game as you know
more about what you are doing you can have more fun with it, you are probably confused with the mechanics so it looks convoluted but its actually pretty simple once you realize what is important.
I wouldnt play team games if you are a new player as you will get team stacked to death and outspammed in deck and income probably, play with a friend or ask for a game in the discord and you will be fine

I'll have to check it out thanks for the tip. Its a fun game and has some awesome units there's just lots that doesn't make sense like I'll take out huge amounts of soviet units with units hiding in the woods but as soon as I try advance I get raped. Also I like to group my armour and concentrate fire with it on a single target is that a good idea or not? And maybe I went a bit overboard but I'm sick of jackoffs who offer no help just come in and act like jackasses.

[nigo_BR ᵀᴹ]

Originally posted by TechnoloJesus:

Originally posted by n1g0_br:

Yes, its fun.

That part isnt its pretty ridiculous But it a cool game I have like 200 hrs in it I'm just sick of getting spammed seems like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that the allies consistently get more units it would be fine if the German units were better but they arent. like how the ♥♥♥♥ does a t-70 take out several stugs and pz4s its pretty dumb.

No, its not.


Learn how to recon with all your units.


https://guides.gamepressure.com/steel-division-2/guide.asp?ID=50942

[fycj]

Originally posted by TechnoloJesus:

Originally posted by fycj:

Chill, just join the sd2 bootcamp discord and you will have more fun, as in any game as you know
more about what you are doing you can have more fun with it, you are probably confused with the mechanics so it looks convoluted but its actually pretty simple once you realize what is important.
I wouldnt play team games if you are a new player as you will get team stacked to death and outspammed in deck and income probably, play with a friend or ask for a game in the discord and you will be fine

I'll have to check it out thanks for the tip. Its a fun game and has some awesome units there's just lots that doesn't make sense like I'll take out huge amounts of soviet units with units hiding in the woods but as soon as I try advance I get raped. Also I like to group my armour and concentrate fire with it on a single target is that a good idea or not? And maybe I went a bit overboard but I'm sick of jackoffs who offer no help just come in and act like jackasses.

Very hard to say without looking at an actual game as it depends on the overall terrain, tanks and enemy division, your best bet as i said is to join the discord and look for games there and see some videos with gameplay so you get new ideas to apply in the game

[Pvt. Meatwad]

Originally posted by n1g0_br:

Originally posted by TechnoloJesus:

That part isnt its pretty ridiculous But it a cool game I have like 200 hrs in it I'm just sick of getting spammed seems like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that the allies consistently get more units it would be fine if the German units were better but they arent. like how the ♥♥♥♥ does a t-70 take out several stugs and pz4s its pretty dumb.

No, its not.


Learn how to recon with all your units.


https://guides.gamepressure.com/steel-division-2/guide.asp?ID=50942

Yeah I see thats important but its pretty ridiculous that a light tank with a 45mm gun can take out several heavier vehicles that were firing on it. Maybe that was just bad luck but still kind of dumb. Also I see recon is more important then I thought which is also kind of sucks because infantry should be able to see just as well as the recon but I get it gives recon units a purpose.

[Pvt. Meatwad]

Originally posted by fycj:

Originally posted by TechnoloJesus:

I'll have to check it out thanks for the tip. Its a fun game and has some awesome units there's just lots that doesn't make sense like I'll take out huge amounts of soviet units with units hiding in the woods but as soon as I try advance I get raped. Also I like to group my armour and concentrate fire with it on a single target is that a good idea or not? And maybe I went a bit overboard but I'm sick of jackoffs who offer no help just come in and act like jackasses.

Very hard to say without looking at an actual game as it depends on the overall terrain, tanks and enemy division, your best bet as i said is to join the discord and look for games there and see some videos with gameplay so you get new ideas to apply in the game

yeah I'll do that I'm more used to War in the East RTSs havent always been my thing but i like them.

[♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ HUUUGE ANIME TITTYS]

Firstly always keep recon nearby cause tanks can't see for ♥♥♥♥, they'll even miss infantry that's almost on top of them if they aren't moving. That's why your stuff is getting sniped. Armor penetration sometimes still seems strange to me sometimes, as penetrations seem to sometimes happen when they seemingly shouldn't, such earlier I saw a gun with 75mm of penetration at point blank penetrating 70mm of armor at ~1200 meters. I think this is to prevent long-range stalemates, and add in an RNG element as I often find this happens with the "armor cracked" crit. Also sometimes tanks face the wrong way when enemy units are revealed to both sides of them, and it can be hard to tell which way they were facing when they were shot unless you zoom in.

Also get in the habit of using cannon fodder infantry units like ersatzgruppen for the sole purpose of advancing to make the enemy positions fire and reveal themselves first before advancing. They also do a good job of taking out unprotected AT guns for little cost if you can get them close enough. Also use artillery smoke, most people completely overlook it.

[Pvt. Meatwad]

Originally posted by ANY ♥♥♥♥♥♥??:

Firstly always keep recon nearby cause tanks can't see for ♥♥♥♥, they'll even miss infantry that's almost on top of them if they aren't moving. That's why your stuff is getting sniped. Armor penetration sometimes still seems strange to me sometimes, as penetrations seem to sometimes happen when they seemingly shouldn't, such earlier I saw a gun with 75mm of penetration at point blank penetrating 70mm of armor at ~1200 meters. I think this is to prevent long-range stalemates, and add in an RNG element as I often find this happens with the "armor cracked" crit. Also sometimes tanks face the wrong way when enemy units are revealed to both sides of them, and it can be hard to tell which way they were facing when they were shot unless you zoom in.

Also get in the habit of using cannon fodder infantry units like ersatzgruppen for the sole purpose of advancing to make the enemy positions fire and reveal themselves first before advancing. They also do a good job of taking out unprotected AT guns for little cost if you can get them close enough. Also use artillery smoke, most people completely overlook it.

Hey man thanks for the tips I've been getting better about using recon but I never thought to use ♥♥♥♥♥♥ infantry or arty smoke like that. I agree the penetrations seems wonky but it usually works ok. I'm stuck on the last hope mission I've been able to beat the other ones but that one is a ♥♥♥♥♥ and a half and it doesn't even seem fair I'll pound their ass with 4 hummels and take the high ground before the objective but they have like unlimited ♥♥♥♥ it feels cheap IMO do you have any tips for that one? Also it feels like the Sovs get more stuff and its cheaper is that actually the case or am I just biased because I'm an axis player.

[♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ HUUUGE ANIME TITTYS]

I did the last hope mission, and was going to send you a replay but for some reason my entire replay list is empty so if I can figure out what's going on there I'll send it to you so you can see what was working for me. I managed to do it in 13 minutes and only lost 5 infantry groups on hard, so it's definitely possible.

The biggest thing was was to keep the infantry out of line of sight when moving from hill to hill, using pioneers to flank the MG emplacements, and using hummels for targeting any field guns or infantry groups that are holding you up when moving across the open. Also once right at the objective, he'll group up right on the spot or the two treelines beyond it, so hitting the road and those trees will let you advance. Keep command infantry with your groups to smoke when they come under fire.

Moving as fast as possible while keeping out of his MG's sights was the biggest goal, as the three minutes into phase B were the hardest since he began to bring out much more stuff, although since they grouped up tightly they were easy targets for the hummels. Always take your fights from green cover, and don't fight against enemy infantry in green cover until you break them up with the hummels first. Don't let your infantry fight from the open if it all possible, and also don't get your infantry hung up shooting at emplacements. Get them pinned down, then move in to capture them instead of wasting time fully destroying them.