Tiger 2 variants

[orkuqui]

I noticed that only Porsche variant is in the game,can we expect the Henschel version in the future?Thx

[Magnus Aurelius, Bright Lord]

Yes we can agree on that. It's just that you were arguing Porsche made them and It's an important point to correct. Ideally, in the future we can stop calling them the P or H versions.

[orkuqui]

i only used that terms because it´s the common names they are better known
but thank you for finally you agree with me about the version represented in the game

[Ser Maks]

Hm-m, maybe?

Not counting unlikely divisions from the Western front, Tiger II first showed up on Eastern front on 12-13 August 1944, during final part of the Lvov–Sandomierz Offensive. Not sure which turret they had, but Kubinka Cat has Henschel turret, according to photo, and was captured on 13 August.

"If SD:2 will receive DLC about Lvov–Sandomierz Offensive, Henschel variant would be featured." Funny, because I'm just quoting my own answer about Elefant, which fought during Lvov–Sandomierz too.

[Arotished]

It was so disappointing that they used this variant of the King Tiger in this game :(

[Le Tiger]

Ser Maks eredeti hozzászólása:

Hm-m, maybe?

Not counting unlikely divisions from the Western front, Tiger II first showed up on Eastern front on 12-13 August 1944, during final part of the Lvov–Sandomierz Offensive. Not sure which turret they had, but Kubinka Cat has Henschel turret, according to photo, and was captured on 13 August.

"If SD:2 will receive DLC about Lvov–Sandomierz Offensive, Henschel variant would be featured." Funny, because I'm just quoting my own answer about Elefant, which fought during Lvov–Sandomierz too.

I know a few PRE-PRODUCTION turrets were used on the Tiger 2 P which is the same ank kurt knispel commanded so a few of the bad turrets were seeing front line combat, but they seen realised the shot trap it made and switched to the production. It's hard finiding a picture of kurt knispel and his tiger 2.

as for orkuqui - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_II#Design

[Eagle]

It does matter which turret is on the tank , the game has the king tiger of the Porsche turret and Henschel hull .

there is another variant with a Henschel turret and a Henschel hull which is better turret = better tank and this is what people want to be added in the game

[orkuqui]

Eagle eredeti hozzászólása:

It does matter which turret is on the tank , the game has the king tiger of the Porsche turret and Henschel hull .

there is another variant with a Henschel turret and a Henschel hull which is better turret = better tank and this is what people want to be added in the game

Exactly! and the tank look better too

[DasaKamov]

Eagle eredeti hozzászólása:

there is another variant with a Henschel turret and a Henschel hull which is better turret = better tank and this is what people want to be added in the game

Y tho?

The current Tiger 2 already has the best armor (tied with the IS-2 obr. '44), the best tank cannon in the game, carrying 5 times as much ammo as its Soviet counterpart, 2 times the fire rate and 15% better accuracy. What's the point of having an even better, more expensive version?

[Le Tiger]

Eagle eredeti hozzászólása:

It does matter which turret is on the tank , the game has the king tiger of the Porsche turret and Henschel hull .

there is another variant with a Henschel turret and a Henschel hull which is better turret = better tank and this is what people want to be added in the game

Again henschel and porche had nothing to do with the turret. porche and henschel deisgned the hull. it was krupp who made both turrets, the pre-production which was the rounded turret and the production turret which has the flat front.

Edit: to quote Hobotango "It's not the picture that is important in the video, it's what the person says. Listen from 5:37 to 6:50. Especially the part where he says they are trying to educate people that still believe Porsche made Tiger 2 turrets, that its erreneous."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuDuBwAhRa4

[orkuqui]

I still do not understand why so much discussion about who made or did not make the tank tower, the question from the beginning is why it is the version with the tower "Porsche" instead of the version "Henschel" to appear in the game. For me in aesthetic terms the Henschel version is more interesting. I believe that the choice is due to the production version better known as "Henschel" was not yet available historically on the Russian front at this time that the game portrays.
I hope that the production version appears in the last DLC of history pass.

[seashell]

DasaKamov eredeti hozzászólása:

Y tho?

The current Tiger 2 already has the best armor (tied with the IS-2 obr. '44), the best tank cannon in the game, carrying 5 times as much ammo as its Soviet counterpart, 2 times the fire rate and 15% better accuracy. What's the point of having an even better, more expensive version?

So it takes longer for artillery to kill it.

Or pro players can tell you that juggernaut income is the best, why do other incomes exist?

Infantry spam is the best tank, why add more tanks?

Why don't you wait for madmat to say something about Tiger II (H) and their existence in Lehr

since if it were not really there then everyone would stop complaining

[DasaKamov]

bottle eredeti hozzászólása:

artillery

juggernaut income

Infantry spam

None of that has anything to do with adding another expensive top-tier tank that does exactly the same thing that an already-existing expensive, top-tier tank does.

[Der Kaiser]

DasaKamov eredeti hozzászólása:

Eagle eredeti hozzászólása:

there is another variant with a Henschel turret and a Henschel hull which is better turret = better tank and this is what people want to be added in the game

Y tho?

The current Tiger 2 already has the best armor (tied with the IS-2 obr. '44), the best tank cannon in the game, carrying 5 times as much ammo as its Soviet counterpart, 2 times the fire rate and 15% better accuracy. What's the point of having an even better, more expensive version?

that is wrong due to jumbo having 190mm of frontal armor guess you forgot, personally I just want the Tiger II H in game so I can mod it into any division once they update the modding tools

[Eagle]

Le Tiger eredeti hozzászólása:

Eagle eredeti hozzászólása:

It does matter which turret is on the tank , the game has the king tiger of the Porsche turret and Henschel hull .

there is another variant with a Henschel turret and a Henschel hull which is better turret = better tank and this is what people want to be added in the game

Again henschel and porche had nothing to do with the turret. porche and henschel deisgned the hull. it was krupp who made both turrets, the pre-production which was the rounded turret and the production turret which has the flat front.

Edit: to quote Hobotango "It's not the picture that is important in the video, it's what the person says. Listen from 5:37 to 6:50. Especially the part where he says they are trying to educate people that still believe Porsche made Tiger 2 turrets, that its erreneous."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuDuBwAhRa4

Man i don't know why you keep bringing up who made the turrets , it does not matter who made them , this is more about who designed them and also it is well known that people distinguish between the two turrets by who designed them . the bottom line here is that there are 2 types of turrets one of them is better and it is not in the game :D

[Eagle]

DasaKamov eredeti hozzászólása:

Eagle eredeti hozzászólása:

there is another variant with a Henschel turret and a Henschel hull which is better turret = better tank and this is what people want to be added in the game

Y tho?

The current Tiger 2 already has the best armor (tied with the IS-2 obr. '44), the best tank cannon in the game, carrying 5 times as much ammo as its Soviet counterpart, 2 times the fire rate and 15% better accuracy. What's the point of having an even better, more expensive version?

well , for many reasons:

1- since they already adding lots of other armored units which are not interesting at all from my point of view at least , they might as well add this one and the tiger H .

2-its true the current kingtiger is the most powerfull and expensive tank in the game ( although there are some wierd tanks like the churchill crocodile, and the sherman jumbo , simply don't die no matter how many u fire at them , thats maybe a bug or for another discussion , im not sure) , however the current KT are limited to 8 maximun in phace C and in one division only , so if they add the other varient to another division , it would be great to have it

3- the H turret simply looks cooler , i believe lots of ppl would agree with that