Can't start the game. "Close Cheat Engine".

[Mystery Keeper]

The game wouldn't start for me. It says "Close Cheat Engine". I do have Cheat Engine. But I'm not running it along with the game. I checked the process list, and there's no single Cheat Engine process running.

[Baby_Cookie[WOLF]]

i mean step 1 would be to just remove cheat engine from your system as a whole
( temporarely ) to see if the game starts then.

it might be running something ( as small as an unnoticeable entity and the anti cheat is picking it up )

.. i wouldn't want to count the amount of people that got vac banned on a valve game for their software being detected by "accident"... sometimes something may leave that one trace that you miss ...

or the anticheat is slighty more intrusive and basically knows you have it and conciders that enough reason.

( i find the second one harder to believe... then again that's what valorant has )

if it's still pooping issues we have a bigger problem since it clearly can't be cheat engine if cheat engine doesn't exist.

[Mystery Keeper]

I don't want to remove Cheat Engine from my system. I cheat in single player games, and it's my own damn business.

[Baby_Cookie[WOLF]]

Originally posted by Mystery Keeper:

I don't want to remove Cheat Engine from my system. I cheat in single player games, and it's my own damn business.

i'm not saying you are cheating or have malicious intend
there is ample reason why you would have it :)
( what anyone does in a single player game is beyond the judgement of others... you're 100% correct there )

don't get me wrong.

it's purely as a means of determining what is causing it.

if the anti cheat is intrusive then simply having it is going to lock you out. it ends then and there.

if it is by accident picking something up then the only way to determine that is by not having it at all for a moment. It can't pick up what doesn't exist. If it still says it detects, then it's within the anti cheat that the problem lies and not on your end.

but we can't know untill we test out which one of these it is.

[Mystery Keeper]

I'm not going to test the game for the devs. I'm not removing Cheat Engine for them. It's their job to deliver a game that works. I know I got it for free. But if they want me to spend time in it - they have to make it playable for me. Without me making any modifications to my system.

[Baby_Cookie[WOLF]]

Originally posted by Mystery Keeper:

I'm not going to test the game for the devs. I'm not removing Cheat Engine for them. It's their job to deliver a game that works. I know I got it for free. But if they want me to spend time in it - they have to make it playable for me. Without me making any modifications to my system.

then it "for now" ends then and there.

at the end of the day the chioce is yours, the reality as is sits in front of you.

all i can do is send you on the basic troubleshooting way.
ofc nothing is enforced, what you do with it is for you to decide.

[Eider]

A bit off topic but worth mentioning,
I know multiple players who have been banned from other games simply for just having a cheat engine on the PC. Did not matter it was off on any of the occasions.
So tread carefully.

[Oku]

Originally posted by Mystery Keeper:

I'm not going to test the game for the devs. I'm not removing Cheat Engine for them. It's their job to deliver a game that works. I know I got it for free. But if they want me to spend time in it - they have to make it playable for me. Without me making any modifications to my system.

It does work, just not when you have Cheat Engine running on your system in the background. And given that the devs use 3rd party EAC, it quite literally is not up to them what the anti cheat does when it detects the single most prolific piece of cheating software used by the mainstream audiences running on your PC.

You have a problem? Take it up with EAC and explain to them why they should create an easily exploitable exception about what happens when they detect Cheat Engine running.

[Mystery Keeper]

Originally posted by Keth:

Originally posted by Mystery Keeper:

I'm not going to test the game for the devs. I'm not removing Cheat Engine for them. It's their job to deliver a game that works. I know I got it for free. But if they want me to spend time in it - they have to make it playable for me. Without me making any modifications to my system.

It does work, just not when you have Cheat Engine running on your system in the background. And given that the devs use 3rd party EAC, it quite literally is not up to them what the anti cheat does when it detects the single most prolific piece of cheating software used by the mainstream audiences running on your PC.

You have a problem? Take it up with EAC and explain to them why they should create an easily exploitable exception about what happens when they detect Cheat Engine running.

I don't have it running in the background. I carefully checked all system processes and made sure Cheat Engine is not running. The game says "Close Cheat Engine", not "Delete Cheat Engine and pray I don't find any traces". And it still doesn't start.

Cheat Engine shouldn't be a problem at all. It's a local tampering tool. When used in online games - it creates client-server discrepancy, which IIRC games were able to detect even back in 2000 and disconnect the offender.

[UmaMusume Enjoyer]

Unload your kernel module through kernelmoduleunloader.exe from cheat engine directory

[Baby_Cookie[WOLF]]

Originally posted by Definitely Not Uma Musume Fan:

Unload your kernel module through kernelmoduleunloader.exe from cheat engine directory

let's rewrite this post of mine

did some digging and this is probably what's causing it.
CE is not guaranteed to unload some of itself upon closing. Which is probably what EAC is picking up on.

you on the other hand as the user are not going to see that this is still being a thing in the background.

So that should probably fix your problem. If so then do it every time you are done using CE to make sure it unloads all of itself.

[Mystery Keeper]

Originally posted by Definitely Not Uma Musume Fan:

Unload your kernel module through kernelmoduleunloader.exe from cheat engine directory

Thank you, but that didn't help. Kernel module wasn't installed to begin with.

[Mystery Keeper]

Originally posted by Definitely Not Uma Musume Fan:

Unload your kernel module through kernelmoduleunloader.exe from cheat engine directory

I was wrong. It actually helped. I was running the wrong instance from the wrong folder. Now the game is running. Thank you!

[Baby_Cookie[WOLF]]

Originally posted by Mystery Keeper:

Originally posted by Definitely Not Uma Musume Fan:

Unload your kernel module through kernelmoduleunloader.exe from cheat engine directory

I was wrong. It actually helped. I was running the wrong instance from the wrong folder. Now the game is running. Thank you!

hurray and welcome
if it acts up again, that's probably the fix for it every single time then :)

[SirusTheMadDJ]

Going to mention that "Cheat Engine" can be used to debug memory issues, which was the actual intent of the program. Well, for "personal and educational" use originally. Sure, it's more famous for actual cheating, but without a coded table for it, it's just a tool to scan and edit memory values.