The Karma system in this game is absolute trash

[nessy]

Literally trash.
You have no idea what's morally "right" or "wrong" in this game, and if you accidentally make the wrong choice, oh well ♥♥♥♥ you, because there's no quicksave, and nothing that lets you know what "good" and "bad" actions are, except for not killing innocent creatures. Absolutely a trash system on this otherwise unique game.

[prpl_mage]

The world isn't black and white. You can't know the consequences of your actions before hand.
Even the best intentions can end up worse than doing nothing.

That is the harsh truth and the game does a good job at presenting that.

[nessy]

Originally posted by prpl_mage:

The world isn't black and white. You can't know the consequences of your actions before hand.
Even the best intentions can end up worse than doing nothing.

That is the harsh truth and the game does a good job at presenting that.

I mean, if that's the game's intention, then it might grow on me I suppose

[Rimster]

karma doesnt effect a whole lot anyways

[Jack left town]

It's quite simply really, killing harmless animals, friendly NPCs and breaking the legs of other players with a bear killer (even if they're wearing Jian armor) is bad
As for the good ??? uhh I think it resets to 100 at some points, there's no way to get more karma that I know of

As for what it affects, it's only the chance of a medkit overdose and fatal wounds. Not really a whole lot, hence why most people just ignore it. Another layer of mechanics thrown in just for the hell of it, and why exactly is it trash again?

[Jack left town]

In Syndicate Black Ops your health and movement speed gets reduced for teamkilling, now that's a karma system.

[Saravanth]

I think most people get the demon achievement within maybe five minutes of playtime lol

[Faunts]

Originally posted by 🖤~Nessy~🖤:

Originally posted by prpl_mage:

The world isn't black and white. You can't know the consequences of your actions before hand.
Even the best intentions can end up worse than doing nothing.

That is the harsh truth and the game does a good job at presenting that.

I mean, if that's the game's intention, then it might grow on me I suppose

Like the others said, it doesn't effect a whole lot. I wouldn't pick fights at the monastery of course, as that can screw yourself over quickly.

It is ultimately a pointless game mechanic that could have been more fleshed out, but the rest of the game is fine if you don't mind a little bit of quirk to it.

It's been a while, but I can help you out if you're just beginning.

[nessy]

Originally posted by Jack left town:

It's quite simply really, killing harmless animals, friendly NPCs and breaking the legs of other players with a bear killer (even if they're wearing Jian armor) is bad
As for the good ??? uhh I think it resets to 100 at some points, there's no way to get more karma that I know of

As for what it affects, it's only the chance of a medkit overdose and fatal wounds. Not really a whole lot, hence why most people just ignore it. Another layer of mechanics thrown in just for the hell of it, and why exactly is it trash again?

The Karma system isn't as simple as "don't hurt friendly NPCs" lol, don't blindly support a dumb mechanic. I'm all for cause and effect of actions, but a vague moralistic karma system doesn't make much sense. I'm fine with it but it does inconvenience me quite a bit with the medkits and such. And yeah, going under 0 karma resets it to 100, which is also plain dumb.

[Jack left town]

I haven't tested it but I'm pretty sure it is as simple as don't kill things that aren't attacking you and your karma will never deplete
No reason to pay attention to your karma, like I said

[Jack left town]

After some quick tests:
Killing Rimanah, Dutch and his friends, Mysterious: -1 karma each
Killing a Master rank enemy: +3 or +5 karma
Throwing a grenade into a room full of rats: -2 karma each
Some of Mentor's dialogue choices in New Eden are -1 karma but otherwise being a colossal ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to everyone has no effect
For some reason using Invocation a lot also tanks your karma

I don't think I'll ever understand it without looking at the code, but I don't need to understand.

[Rimster]

just execute order

[Jack left town]

Think whatever you want my friend, but don't forget that everything is an illusion.

[Rimster]

What? What??? I don't know what ye're tellin' me here! But ye know I live day after day, I move, I do some burglaries here and there, and I live from what I can! So don't come here to say whatever you say! Or I release the hounds!

[Saravanth]

Originally posted by Rimster:

What? What??? I don't know what ye're tellin' me here! But ye know I live day after day, I move, I do some burglaries here and there, and I live from what I can! So don't come here to say whatever you say! Or I release the hounds!

I'm not here to drink your dog piss.