dlc?

[gereforte]

really i'm so angry (not hungry thx Chaosium) of tons of dlcs, maybe is because i'm going 40yo. i hate this behavior, i don't want a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ultra mega delux edition. i'm a simple man, i want to buy a full game and not sink in the shopping page.

greedy publisher, look at factorio and learn how to sell game and recive loyalty)

this post is useless i know!

[General Malaise]

Right now, you can buy everything available for £60 - everything except The Anarchist.

That's some serious months of game time right there.

I'm 63 by the way.

[Chaosium]

By 40 you should be able to tell apart angry from hungry

[Rattlesnake8]

I agree. I saw the game was on sale for $20.. then go to the store page and see $200 worth of dlc while it's on sale and it turns me off buying. Same thing with Far Cry 6. Not sure why Ubisoft does this but it loses them some sales. Oh well, plenty of other games to play.

[Smokerbait]

Originally posted by gereforte:

really i'm so angry (not hungry thx Chaosium) of tons of dlcs, maybe is because i'm going 40yo. i hate this behavior, i don't want a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ultra mega delux edition. i'm a simple man, i want to buy a full game and not sink in the shopping page.

greedy publisher, look at factorio and learn how to sell game and recive loyalty)

this post is useless i know!

The base game is a full game in and of itself.

And they sold their DLC slowly over 4 years. Buying one season pass for $24.99 (containing 3 DLCs each) a year is very reasonable. After four years it's ridiculous to expect a developer NOT to provide more content, which is what this is. This isn't a Sims scenario where they release 800 cosmetic packs.

Had you started from the beginning you would not be so mad by now.

But it's not their fault you're late to the party.

[Muerte]

Someone who knows the game well please help me out... I'd like to know which dlc is relevant for 100% achievement completion? Not really interested in any cosmetics...

[Smokerbait]

Originally posted by Muerte:

Someone who knows the game well please help me out... I'd like to know which dlc is relevant for 100% achievement completion? Not really interested in any cosmetics...

Just get the Deluxe Pack, and Season Passes 1, 2, 3, and 4. They contain all you need. Everything else is cosmetic.

What's relevant:

Deluxe Pack contains: The Anarchist DLC

Season 1 Pass contains: Sunken Treasures, Botanica, The Passage
Season 2 Pass contains: Seat of Power, Bright Harvest, Land of Lions
Season 3 Pass contains: Docklands, Tourist Season, The High Life
Season 4 Pass contains: Seeds of Change, Empire of the Skies, New World Rising

[Ubi-Thorlof]

I understand the issue of wanting to get into a new game and seeing a bunch of DLC, wondering if they're worth it etc.

From our perspective, you'll get a lot of playtime already out of the base game alone. The DLC either expand on some aspects or add completely new ones (e.g. adding new regions to the game) but the base game is "complete" in itself.

We originally did not plan to release as much postlaunch content as we did now (we planned for one Season with 3 DLC originally) but decided to continue supporting the game due to feedback from our players and how well Anno 1800 was received. By no means did we have a roadmap from the start to e.g. add skyscrapers in Season 3 or airships in Season 4. These ideas developed only in postlaunch.

Get the base game, see if it's your kind of game!

[Vox]

Originally posted by Smokerbait:

But it's not their fault you're late to the party.

Almost agree with everything you said but then you had to go and drop the ball and act like the devs didnt decide to remove this game from Steam and add it back years later.

[G.Kothe]

give us more dlc

[kubluu]

Originally posted by Ubi-Thorlof:

By no means did we have a roadmap from the start to e.g. add skyscrapers in Season 3 or airships in Season 4.

In some ways I feel disappointed by this.

Great game.

[Smokerbait]

Originally posted by Vox:

Originally posted by Smokerbait:

But it's not their fault you're late to the party.

Almost agree with everything you said but then you had to go and drop the ball and act like the devs didnt decide to remove this game from Steam and add it back years later.

That is a fair point. However, I still think my point still stands. Even if you remove the Epic exclusivity deal, and Anno was available on Steam this whole time, that never ever stops newcomers to a game that's been out for years complaining that those GREEDY DEVS pumped out all these DLCs just for the sake of monetization! I see it all the time in the forums of other games I play. Other games that were never removed from Steam.

[Witkh13]

This argument fails to make any sense, think do I. If you dislike DLCs then don't buy them.
You can play a game just fine without any of the DLCs. The very concept is additional content that required additional development beyond the base game.

Yes Gaming Studios are after money to repay their investors; if this seems bad to you, then come up with an economic system that raises more people out of poverty than free market Capitalism with abundant competition... it fails to exist. The US switched to Cronyism a century ago, so the US is not a good point of reference for capitalism.

Originally posted by gereforte:

really i'm so angry (not hungry thx Chaosium) of tons of dlcs, maybe is because i'm going 40yo. i hate this behavior, i don't want a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ultra mega delux edition. i'm a simple man, i want to buy a full game and not sink in the shopping page.

greedy publisher, look at factorio and learn how to sell game and recive loyalty)

this post is useless i know!

[gereforte]

Originally posted by Witkh13:

This argument fails to make any sense, think do I. If you dislike DLCs then don't buy them.
You can play a game just fine without any of the DLCs. The very concept is additional content that required additional development beyond the base game.

Yes Gaming Studios are after money to repay their investors; if this seems bad to you, then come up with an economic system that raises more people out of poverty than free market Capitalism with abundant competition... it fails to exist. The US switched to Cronyism a century ago, so the US is not a good point of reference for capitalism.

Originally posted by gereforte:

really i'm so angry (not hungry thx Chaosium) of tons of dlcs, maybe is because i'm going 40yo. i hate this behavior, i don't want a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ultra mega delux edition. i'm a simple man, i want to buy a full game and not sink in the shopping page.

greedy publisher, look at factorio and learn how to sell game and recive loyalty)

this post is useless i know!

the point of this meaningless post is not figth the capitalism but fight very bad selling policy behaviour.
And in my opinion things can be better like other (very few) developers do; for ex. have you ever seen a dlc for gta V?... and no one can say that rockstar haven't done extra work on gta v since the realease.

can't understand why people like and support half baked things sold as full.

[Smokerbait]

Originally posted by gereforte:

And in my opinion things can be better like other (very few) developers do; for ex. have you ever seen a dlc for gta V?... and no one can say that rockstar haven't done extra work on gta v since the realease.

can't understand why people like and support half baked things sold as full.

The fact you are holding Rockstar Games as a paragon of virtue is laughable and shows how out of touch with the situation you are. Fans have been disappointed that Rockstar hasn't released any single player content in forever. Rockstar focuses on online multiplayer and makes their money off of selling cash cards.

These "Shark Cards" go anywhere from $4.99 to $99.00.

So a one-time purchase for a DLC is bad, but releasing DLCs for free so you can repeatedly milk customers buying in-game currency is okay?

Also, "half baked things sold as full"? You have ZERO hours playing Anno 1800. So what authority do you have to judge how much content the base game has?

[gereforte]

Originally posted by Smokerbait:

Originally posted by gereforte:

And in my opinion things can be better like other (very few) developers do; for ex. have you ever seen a dlc for gta V?... and no one can say that rockstar haven't done extra work on gta v since the realease.

can't understand why people like and support half baked things sold as full.

The fact you are holding Rockstar Games as a paragon of virtue is laughable and shows how out of touch with the situation you are. Fans have been disappointed that Rockstar hasn't released any single player content in forever. Rockstar focuses on online multiplayer and makes their money off of selling cash cards.

These "Shark Cards" go anywhere from $4.99 to $99.00.

So a one-time purchase for a DLC is bad, but releasing DLCs for free so you can repeatedly milk customers buying in-game currency is okay?

Also, "half baked things sold as full"? You have ZERO hours playing Anno 1800. So what authority do you have to judge how much content the base game has?

people hate rockstar because they aren't going to release gta 6 till they sell well gta v still years later, cash card is not a dlc.
yes rockstar is a good publisher because they sell complete game, but there are also other good developers (like i said befor the guys who worked on factorio, grim dawn, also dark souls are "respectful" and in certain way also no man sky, cyberpunk ecc....)


ubisoft (but there are worst brand, like paradox for ex.) love to milk customers releasing half content game... (or "huge reskins" like far cry series...)
You seriously think that a game is worth 150€ when a game of the same quality is 20/30 on sale?!

if anno 1800 is as good as the 1400 was i'll buy it for sure when a complete edition will released in 3 to 5 years because at that time the game will be ok.

this is only my no point opinion