it's time to remove denuvo

[Ragnarr Loðbrók]

So people still can play this game in 20-30 years+

Denuvo will die one day like SecuROM and co.

(Before the typical average steam users appear) Yes i do own the game

[potato]

you don't decide that

[Hailstorm]

They have some nice people at ubisoft, Anno 2070 was patched earlier this year to keep online play running, I'm guessing that when 1800 needs a patch like that because denuvo dies, they'll patch it too :)

[Lilbabycat]

it will eventually be cracked, if not already. Sadly you must rely on the community of people who actually care to preserve this stuff long term. In many ways it is in the company's best interest for them to eventually be lost forever.

[シ Scout [NZ]]

A) You wont be still playing this game in 30 years and B) why now even if you want to play it in 30 years? Why not in say, 10 years?

Also, they arent going to remove it just to please one salty boi on steam lol

[Vesper]

Originally posted by シ Scout NZ:

A) You wont be still playing this game in 30 years

I still play games from the 80s/90s, so it's very plausible.

[Annihilator]

Originally posted by potato:

you don't decide that

Exactly :)

[Ragnarr Loðbrók]

Originally posted by シ Scout NZ:

A) You wont be still playing this game in 30 years and B) why now even if you want to play it in 30 years? Why not in say, 10 years?

Also, they arent going to remove it just to please one salty boi on steam lol

I'm not salty, i'm just Pro-Consumer rights
And Denuvo is Anti-Consumer, i guess you little boy aren't old enough to know the fiasco around SecuROM (The same guys who are behind Denuvo) and other DRM's from that time and theirfor don't know the history, i know the history, i've learned from it, that's why i'm against Hard DRM's like Denuvo and Anti-consumer policy in general.

Men, what did the mainstream did to the gaming industry? People defending Anti-consumers... sheehs... that's worse than some fictional stuff from the books of old days.

I still play games from the early 80/90's and plenty of other people do it aswell.
(And some of those really old DRM's that has been a plague, refuse to work on newer systems, leaving you without the possibility to run old games on modern machines because the Old DRM isn't compatible unless you can find a crack for it or if a company like GOG takes care of it)
Not everyone is spoiled like the majority of the so called "Modern Gamers"
IF people wouldn't be interested into playing Old Games, a Platform like GOG would have never made it.

Can't think through nor to the end these people of today...

It also has been confirmed that Denuvo also can have some slight impact on performance, this has proven meanwhile often enough. Even by official sites.

Also a small minority of players are having technical issues because of denuvo.
But some of their issues has never been fixed, because it was simply not WORTH the Cost to take care of the problems of a minority, when the majority didn't had problems at all.

I repeat, "Can't think through nor to the end these people of today..."

After this Long time with Denuvo.

Everyone who purchased Anno 1800's deserve the right that Denuvo get's removed, because it fullfilled already it's purpose, and is now nothing than just a burden for the future of this Game itself. (Denuvo won't exist forever)

And the Game itself is simply tooo Good, to die a terrible death on the future just because of the DRM Denuvo.

If you simply cannot understand this and still wanna defend this sort of practice and anti-consumer policy behaviour, i'll have nothing more to say than what Albert Einstein used once to say about humans.

[Annihilator]

Anti consumer is only what you not like.

[Gnasty Gnorc]

“I can’t steal things and my internet sucks, Denuvo is anti consumer >:( “

[lukaself]

Originally posted by Havik:

“I can’t steal things and my internet sucks, Denuvo is anti consumer >:( “

Anno 1800 has been available for illegitimate consumption for years at this point. If their goal was to pirate it, they could be doing just that right now... have a bit of common sense, please.

[Dracon]

Nice try, but steam does show us that you don't actually own the game.

[Dracon]

Originally posted by lukaself:

Originally posted by Havik:

“I can’t steal things and my internet sucks, Denuvo is anti consumer >:( “

Anno 1800 has been available for illegitimate consumption for years at this point. If their goal was to pirate it, they could be doing just that right now... have a bit of common sense, please.

There at this moment only 3 persons that can crack denuvo, one is ♥♥♥♥♥♥, other is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ hater that speak like a movie villian, and other dude crack only football games. Really all the games that employ denuvo see massive sale boost because its hard to crack denuvo. Total war warhammer have been best selling game for a year before they cracked it.

[lukaself]

Originally posted by Dracon:

Originally posted by lukaself:

Anno 1800 has been available for illegitimate consumption for years at this point. If their goal was to pirate it, they could be doing just that right now... have a bit of common sense, please.

There at this moment only 3 persons that can crack denuvo, one is ♥♥♥♥♥♥, other is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ hater that speak like a movie villian, and other dude crack only football games. Really all the games that employ denuvo see massive sale boost because its hard to crack denuvo. Total war warhammer have been best selling game for a year before they cracked it.

Completely beside the point.

[Dracon]

Originally posted by lukaself:

Originally posted by Dracon:

There at this moment only 3 persons that can crack denuvo, one is ♥♥♥♥♥♥, other is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ hater that speak like a movie villian, and other dude crack only football games. Really all the games that employ denuvo see massive sale boost because its hard to crack denuvo. Total war warhammer have been best selling game for a year before they cracked it.

Completely beside the point.

Wrong, they need to pay fee to keep using denuvo. If it would not work they drop it long time ago.

[lukaself]

Originally posted by Dracon:

Originally posted by lukaself:

Completely beside the point.

Wrong, they need to pay fee to keep using denuvo. If it would not work they drop it long time ago.

You're assuming companies are not able to make mistakes or that their goal is to protect the game against piracy.

There's a non negligible consideration that some fraction of the industry is using Denuvo as a way to artificially add planned obsolescence to their games, which is all the more deplorable that building a product to fail is an actual engineering design consideration injected by marketing and not a conspiracy theory. When producers of durable goods must compete with previous generations of their own products, firms can engage in planned obsolescence to limit the scope of this competition. This tends to be confirmed by publishers keeping Denuvo in their games when it has been available to pirates for years making the customer the only likely target of the middleware.

Ubisoft, for instance, recently tried to effectively remove games from their customer's library before quickly walking it back as a "misunderstanding" when put in front of a quickly rising backlash. Meanwhile SEGA kept Denuvo on several games for which they (mistakenly?) released the Denuvo-free executable themselves, meaning there's factually zero piracy prevented while they seemingly still pay for the middleware's recurrent fees. The latest example of that being Ghostwire adding Denuvo after the sales dried up.

Sometimes, it's simply the result of a single executive in denial with a hair trigger on the "You're fired" button... Hell will freeze over when the CFO or CTO dares entering the shark tank of business meetings to tell that they wasted a cold millon or two on a middleware for no return on investment. Piracy is too much of a convenient scapegoat.