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Simmanin Jan 4, 2020 @ 10:11pm
Having troubles with pyramid puzzle
Without giving away much, this above puzzle doesn't seem to have a lot of information that helps me understand how to complete this. At this point, i'm concerned it's a bug and with no place to save in this area since i've gotten here, giving up now would result in quite a lot of time loss.

Is there something painfully obvious I'm missing? I'm not asking for a direct answer to the puzzle, simply where I would uncover how to even know what to solve for in the first place.
Last edited by Simmanin; Jan 4, 2020 @ 11:14pm
Originally posted by 最初の血 Unforgiven:
Originally posted by BigCjnS:
After trying to solve the puzzle based on trial and error and looking with difficulty at the other pyramids ... since fixed camera stays very far from the pyramids... I have managed to make a sound, after this I get a text "Nothing happened.. there must be something in this place that can help me understand how this work".... what the hell I have to do .... ?? I'm trapped, I can't save the game and I can´t do anything ...
The full level is a real garbage that should be eliminated from the game ... I just hope that if I manage to get out of there the rest will not look anything like this ...

Thank you for the feedback. The game autosaves after completing the ancient symbol puzzle.

When you get stuck always check your files. If you reached this point it means you already collected all the files and clues that are required.

This section of the game is very important and part of the story.

This puzzle has been updated many times and this thread is no longer related/updated. May provide confusions to others. If you have any other problems with this puzzle please create a new thread/topic.

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Andresx22 Jan 5, 2020 @ 7:50am 
Look box of ploutus File, there you will find answer
J0hN_P4NoYkL4s Jan 5, 2020 @ 8:17am 
im here too! stuck for hours i tried everything i could think! i even tried every combination possible at the end and doesnt work i dont know what to do,you need to do something else after the puzzle is done to activate it or what?
Andresx22 Jan 5, 2020 @ 8:22am 
Originally posted by P4NoYkL4s:
im here too! stuck for hours i tried everything i could think! i even tried every combination possible at the end and doesnt work i dont know what to do,you need to do something else after the puzzle is done to activate it or what?
Look box of ploutus File, there is a drawing of the puzzle
J0hN_P4NoYkL4s Jan 5, 2020 @ 9:00am 
Originally posted by Andresx22:
Originally posted by P4NoYkL4s:
im here too! stuck for hours i tried everything i could think! i even tried every combination possible at the end and doesnt work i dont know what to do,you need to do something else after the puzzle is done to activate it or what?
Look box of ploutus File, there is a drawing of the puzzle

that is for the box of plutus pieces to put together we are stuck in the puzzle in the other world where are 5 pyramids and you need to interact with one to change paterns
Simmanin Jan 5, 2020 @ 10:01am 
Yeah, I streamed the game to a friend, eventually just lost the run and took an old save back to that point, and even they couldn't figure out what we were missing after about another hour. I have literally manually selected every single possible combination, swapping the right piece 3 times before swapping the left once, then swapping the top piece after 3 cycles of left and right, and then of course moving the whole pyramid to change the center and repeat, and literally no combination of this puzzle has worked for me so far. My friend found interesting patterns to try, I attempted to look at the forward face of each other pyramid and choose the patterns that weren't represented and still there's nothing that works.

And P4No is correct, the box of ploutus was much easier due to having a direct picture to reference and figure it out. This pyramid puzzle doesn't seem to provide much helpful info at all in regards to what patterns and shapes we are looking for when adjusting the pyramid. Even the puzzle before this involving a sign on a rock that you have no way of referencing outside of memorization/taking a screenshot still at least provided a sliver of guidance on how to solve it. Every single pyramid that is in there has the exact same default pattern, and resetting the red pyramid puts it into that exact same matching pattern all of the other pyramids have.
Last edited by Simmanin; Jan 5, 2020 @ 10:10am
Andresx22 Jan 5, 2020 @ 10:14am 
can you tell me, what should I do with the empty antique paper?
Simmanin Jan 5, 2020 @ 10:18am 
I haven't figured anything out with the antique empty paper yet sadly. The only point of progression after getting that item seems to be Using the oil and lighter to burn down the ropes and advance into the sewers . I am downloading an update as we speak though so i wonder if some changes and patches have come out in regards to this puzzle/other places to go. Hoping to finally find a way past this pyramid puzzle, because I absolutely love this game, but this is a particularly annoying feeling of is the game bugged, is the puzzle still in development, or have me and my friend gone completely insane wasting 3 hours missing something obvious?
J0hN_P4NoYkL4s Jan 5, 2020 @ 11:26am 
i retried all combinations (729) to the pyramid because i was missing one variable before (of 6 total) and none activates it..either bugged or you do the right combination and then without indication of success you do something else..
J0hN_P4NoYkL4s Jan 5, 2020 @ 11:41am 
i cant know if its the correct one and also theres no other interact with the pyramid or anything else in the room even tried to use all items on everything and no file mentions something.
Simmanin Jan 5, 2020 @ 11:50am 
I have finally uncovered the answer, although as a bit of feedback, this was a horribly designed puzzle. There's no indication it's supposed to be a reference to any other kind of puzzle that exists. When i look at a puzzle in a game, I want the hints and clues about how to answer that to be in the game itself, not a reference to something else entirely. I had absolutely no idea what that name was that Rod very kindly provided until I looked it up.

There's no indication what the correct pattern was, there's no indication that "something more" needs to be done to the pyramid, and as much as I love this game, this was by far one of the most frustrating experiences of resetting, starting over, losing progress and having no other hints to work off of. I feel like there should've been some sort of note somewhere, similar to the box of ploutus, where while it didn't just blatently show exactly how every piece lined up, it did come with the blue portion of the note stating It is said in order to activate the box, one must rearrange the sliding tiles that comprise it's walls in a specific pattern. Some note saying to do something else to the pyramid would have been sincerely appreciated, because at it's core the only info we had was the ability to turn a pyramid, and that's it. Similar to other puzzles in this game with moving shapes, we assume it would clink or automatically take over once we have reached the correct combination, but that was not the case with this puzzle.

Thank you to the developers for being so involved in their community and uprising in this game. I'm very excited to see how this plays out and look forward to supporting the development and launch of this gem.
Last edited by Simmanin; Jan 5, 2020 @ 11:52am
:sfsurprise:Excuse me but you guys should have made a checkpoint or something because if one gets bother with this kind of puzzles after 3 hours of figured out with absolutly no luck, and yet only the writer knows how it works, one can get a pissed off and might need some rest and turn off the game for a while and not loosing way many progress............BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY TO SAVE YOUR GAME IN HERE :sfsad:

Thank you :sfsmile:

Originally posted by Simmanin:
I have finally uncovered the answer, although as a bit of feedback, this was a horribly designed puzzle. There's no indication it's supposed to be a reference to any other kind of puzzle that exists. When i look at a puzzle in a game, I want the hints and clues about how to answer that to be in the game itself, not a reference to something else entirely. I had absolutely no idea what that name was that Rod very kindly provided until I looked it up.

There's no indication what the correct pattern was, there's no indication that "something more" needs to be done to the pyramid, and as much as I love this game, this was by far one of the most frustrating experiences of resetting, starting over, losing progress and having no other hints to work off of. I feel like there should've been some sort of note somewhere, similar to the box of ploutus, where while it didn't just blatently show exactly how every piece lined up, it did come with the blue portion of the note stating It is said in order to activate the box, one must rearrange the sliding tiles that comprise it's walls in a specific pattern. Some note saying to do something else to the pyramid would have been sincerely appreciated, because at it's core the only info we had was the ability to turn a pyramid, and that's it. Similar to other puzzles in this game with moving shapes, we assume it would clink or automatically take over once we have reached the correct combination, but that was not the case with this puzzle.

Thank you to the developers for being so involved in their community and uprising in this game. I'm very excited to see how this plays out and look forward to supporting the development and launch of this gem.
Can you explain to me what it needs to be done in order to solve this abomination? thank you
J0hN_P4NoYkL4s Jan 5, 2020 @ 12:18pm 
so what am i suppose to do it drives me crazy!
Simmanin Jan 5, 2020 @ 12:25pm 
Can you explain to me what it needs to be done in order to solve this abomination? thank you

I'm afraid I actually don't know of a way of telling any more secrets outside of what's already been mentioned in this thread. It's clear to the developers that this was a fairly personal puzzle with it having a reference, and so I wouldn't feel good giving this portion of the game away.

The only hints I can reiterate is that the gate has to be open, and "something more" must be done in correspondence to the pyramid or "gate" you have access to.

Think back on the items you have access to and see if that helps.

Thank you developers for considering this feedback of mine as well. I feel like I have turned the game completely upside down during my hours of trying to figure out how this exact puzzle works, but as mentioned in my first post, if there was something obvious or more to find, then I am totally fine with knowing that bit at least. Perhaps the empty antique note had something to do with the clue on solving this? I couldn't find a use for it juuuust yet, but am excited to be past this puzzle and have redone the run from an older save to preserve the vinyl records I had used up trying to troubleshoot this.
Last edited by Simmanin; Jan 5, 2020 @ 12:26pm
J0hN_P4NoYkL4s Jan 5, 2020 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by Simmanin:
Can you explain to me what it needs to be done in order to solve this abomination? thank you

I'm afraid I actually don't know of a way of telling any more secrets outside of what's already been mentioned in this thread. It's clear to the developers that this was a fairly personal puzzle with it having a reference, and so I wouldn't feel good giving this portion of the game away.

The only hints I can reiterate is that the gate has to be open, and "something more" must be done in correspondence to the pyramid or "gate" you have access to.

Think back on the items you have access to and see if that helps.

Thank you developers for considering this feedback of mine as well. I feel like I have turned the game completely upside down during my hours of trying to figure out how this exact puzzle works, but as mentioned in my first post, if there was something obvious or more to find, then I am totally fine with knowing that bit at least. Perhaps the empty antique note had something to do with the clue on solving this? I couldn't find a use for it juuuust yet, but am excited to be past this puzzle and have redone the run from an older save to preserve the vinyl records I had used up trying to troubleshoot this.

the pyramid must be in the correct order to do what you must do to it? How am i suppose to know the right combination if so?
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