Mist Survival

Mist Survival

Wolverine Sep 20, 2023 @ 2:35pm
For the Developer and for the Publisher
Originally posted by Dimension 32 Entertainment:
https://steamcommunity.com/ogg/914620/announcements/detail/3740858774957782500

Let me start by saying that some time ago I was enthusiastic about the purchase I made and in some comments I defended this game, but now I have to change my mind......
For the developer:
I can understand that it seems you are developing this game alone but have the coherence and seriousness that a game developer should have at least you owe it to the many people who bought the game......
from your statements of July 30th as can be read here...:

Originally posted by Dimension 32 Entertainment:
https://steamcommunity.com/games/914620/announcements/detail/3658663007550127260

you said that every week there would be an update or explanation of the work you were doing and instead only 2 publications?
Not to mention the many bugs in your "test Brench" section without an update yet to fix those bugs and you already publish implementations????
Example of an easy to solve bug still stuck where it was.....Have you tried to view the map screen of the game in "test bench" the v5.0 map appears, areas where you walk and fly etc...
Not to mention the map itself you went from the v4.0 map a nice map to the decent and 1/4 empty map of v5.0 to the "Test Brench" one Horrible.....without a clue as well as confusing.
I remember that the latest implementation of the v5.0 map is the one currently published
it was the camp where one could trade but which had to undergo modification as it was not entirely complete........not to mention images of a military base which we no longer have the slightest information about..... I'll refresh your memory.....:

Originally posted by Dimension 32 Entertainment:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/914620/view/3285962238538976083

and as you can see other things that were supposed to be implemented but then disappeared due to your repeated and prolonged absence......
and here too no updates for bug fixes, no updates to complete the map, no updates for other implementations.......
do you just copy and paste the work you did to some maps taken so randomly just to hope they don't have bugs???
if you don't solve the bugs that are in your work you can't try to implement more stuff.... fix what doesn't work then you have to implement.....

Last thing, can you tell me how can I still play on the public v5.0 map when I know for sure that if you decide to put the public "Brech test" I will have to start everything from scratch? so I would have wasted 72 hours of gameplay just because here we don't know what seriousness is????

Disappointed, indignant, disconcerted and even mocked..........Thank you developer.

Sorry for the edit and I wrote everything in English for easy understanding.
Last edited by Wolverine; Sep 20, 2023 @ 2:48pm
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Dog Sep 20, 2023 @ 5:33pm 
Or you can just deal with the fact that you purchased a game in development . You agred to the terms when you made the purchase. Look in the mirror if you want someone to cry to.
Wolverine Sep 20, 2023 @ 5:43pm 
Originally posted by Dog:
Or you can just deal with the fact that you purchased a game in development . You agred to the terms when you made the purchase. Look in the mirror if you want someone to cry to.


No one's crying here, don't worry, it's just annoying to see how they find a way to steal your money and as you say, you've accepted the terms for the game in development.....but it's in the process of being "developed", that is, it includes an improvement of the game itself in the future not a gradual total regression of the game.....Development not regression......
Wolverine Sep 20, 2023 @ 5:53pm 
it would have been more correct if the developer as well as a producer of the game had inserted a post on the game purchase page clearly saying that it is a game that he is developing alone that he does it in his free time and that if someone had purchased the game he did it as donation for his work.....Here we are on a platform where you create important games and from important manufacturers but you hope to also find small manufacturers but who have the ability to say what they are doing about future development and to intervene for the resolution of bugs or other, if this is the game why not sell it on the tested site??? because it has more credibility in a platform like this and you have greater visibility.... but this also entails greater seriousness he comes ignored......
Last edited by Wolverine; Sep 20, 2023 @ 5:58pm
Mr Tree Frog Sep 20, 2023 @ 5:58pm 
I see the Dev dropped another 14 gig patch this week. I understand where he is coming from. Here today gone tomorrow has become common place. The development of the game doesn't seem like its progressed much since the stable none modified game that everyone has access too.

Admittedly, I do need to log in and see where the game is presently. However, at the five years mark and the game is still missing major components and map one is not completed yet while deploying a second map and new engine modifications does cause a bit of frustration. I've also talked about this in detail in these hallowed forums.

Learning on phrases like "you can just deal with the fact that you purchased a game in development" or "Look in the mirror if you want someone to cry to". These type of statements only create a bigger divide between the player base is starting to get a sense they are being taken for a ride and the other side are apparently hopeless romantics.

A fact you can't fight is map one after five years should have been done. It is not. Now we have a map two just as much of an incomplete state as map one. Many of the same bugs from stable untouched game are still in the Beta 0.6.0.

Don't dog people who have legitimate concerns about the current / future state of the game. They paid for the right to address their concerns to the dev for this current open alpha under construction game.
jethro_4243 Sep 21, 2023 @ 7:57am 
Originally posted by Dog:
Or you can just deal with the fact that you purchased a game in development . You agred to the terms when you made the purchase. Look in the mirror if you want someone to cry to.
+1
X-Sphere Sep 21, 2023 @ 9:44am 
The reason the bugs have not been addressed is simple. The dev does not know how to. Also, what is the point in even attempting to address them if he knows that future content will just cause more of the same. Alpha or not, the game is a shambles. Except for new features/tools etc, nothing has improved in 5 years, only gotten worse.
Dog Sep 21, 2023 @ 12:50pm 
Originally posted by X-Sphere:
The reason the bugs have not been addressed is simple. The dev does not know how to. Also, what is the point in even attempting to address them if he knows that future content will just cause more of the same. Alpha or not, the game is a shambles. Except for new features/tools etc, nothing has improved in 5 years, only gotten worse.
Imagine buying into an early access game then expecting that every update / patch should be a finished game.
Wolverine Sep 21, 2023 @ 4:50pm 
Originally posted by Dog:
Imagine buying into an early access game then expecting that every update / patch should be a finished game.

I agree with what "Mr Tree Frog" wrote
there are people who feel cheated like me and there are the incurable romantics who hope to one day see the game finished......
Everyone here has the freedom to express their opinions but what I continue to notice, in addition to the lawyers defending the developer and that is the hopeless romantics, the developer himself does not even deign to respond to those who paid for the game..... .and this doesn't make you think??? because it really seems like something stinks......Now I can understand you, the close friends of the developer who try in every way, even with phrases aimed at protecting him, but I think he's a person of age who can defend himself on his own, he is not a little boy who needs his mother or defense lawyers.......Here I have only expressed my opinion that after 5 years the game has only gone into decline rather than a true development....after 5 years you think that a game is already ready for the final phase... that it is already 90% complete but here the game started at 70% and now at 40%.......
I don't feel sorry for myself as I already said, I'm just indignant at the developer who doesn't deserve an answer, that the game initially with so much potential is going to disarray, that I see a lot of WoW on what it's working on but they don't focus on what it really has fact, on his statements, on what has attracted you with images of work carried out that has disappeared into thin air.....that the game for each change of map has to start all over from scratch........
Guys, be serious here, no one wants to condemn anyone, but like me, a person who pays with the right to answers that don't come.......
If the developer doesn't want to respond to my post ok no problem, but I would only like one response from him and this paying person that I am I have the right to have......
When do you think early access will end?????
I don't think it will take another 5 years to finish it and I don't think it will still be in early access in 5 years.....
Because if another 5 years pass, to those who are defense lawyers, and it will still be in early access with bugs still existing, ask yourself a question, did I spend my money well or did I get ripped off????
In the meantime, I'm waiting for the answer to my only question: I have the right to know the date of the end of early access.........thank you.
Bloodjinn Sep 21, 2023 @ 6:44pm 
I like turtles
Mr Tree Frog Sep 21, 2023 @ 9:55pm 
Originally posted by Bloodjinn:
I like turtles
Me too.
Speedball Tucker Sep 22, 2023 @ 3:34am 
1. its bugy yeah well its in development. Thanks dev for making it
2. im tired, love the game, be awesome one day. really enjoy it, cant wait for some coop. I cant make it, so thanks again manI enjoy playing it, its a win!
Anutha_1 Sep 22, 2023 @ 9:17am 
Originally posted by Dog:
Or you can just deal with the fact that you purchased a game in development . You agred to the terms when you made the purchase. Look in the mirror if you want someone to cry to.
The OP stated exactly what the developer posted themselves and has not lived up to pretty much is the equivalent of “you’re only as good as your word.” Unfortunately many, if not most, today have no understanding of this concept.

Too many want to try and use the term “early access” as a crutch for games that seriously show a lack of actual direction in their actual production. They are the gamers equivalent of SJW.
Last edited by Anutha_1; Sep 22, 2023 @ 9:18am
jethro_4243 Sep 22, 2023 @ 9:58am 
Originally posted by Anutha_1:
Originally posted by Dog:
Or you can just deal with the fact that you purchased a game in development . You agred to the terms when you made the purchase. Look in the mirror if you want someone to cry to.
The OP stated exactly what the developer posted themselves and has not lived up to pretty much is the equivalent of “you’re only as good as your word.” Unfortunately many, if not most, today have no understanding of this concept.

Too many want to try and use the term “early access” as a crutch for games that seriously show a lack of actual direction in their actual production. They are the gamers equivalent of SJW.
You could not be further from reality. People with your mindset are the problem and do not understand simple logistics. Your comments and attitude are toxic and unwelcome.
Early access games are works in progress, constantly everchanging and improving. The Dev has a list of priorities and addresses the ones most important or the ones that have to be corrected before the next. Whatever task is most crucial is the one that is addressed. Just because the dev does not do what YOU want does not mean that they deserve your uneducated and obtrusive comments and slanderous remarks. it's a very simple concept that people refuse to entertain. DO NOT play EA games expecting finished title product. Play the games and contribute with clear and concise issues that need added to his list of priorities.
Just coming into the forum to express your opinion is fine and welcome as long as it contributes to the community as a whole. Your accusations of untrustworthiness of the Developer and calling most of us social justice warriors is offensive and uncalled for. That, you cannot do, and for me to defend my fellow community members attempting to allow the Dev to create possibly the best ever survival game in history is not only allowed but something i do not think you could understand.
Anutha_1 Sep 22, 2023 @ 10:31am 
Like I said before, those who feel compelled to constantly patrol the board responding to most comments are the equivalent of SJW’s.

When you’ve worked on actual software development projects in the real world and are held accountable for showing results, come back and see me.

In any type of software development, you don’t wait until the very last stage to address all your ongoing bugs all along. If you had any concept of software development, you’d realize as much.

No one in their right mind expects a completed product with each update released. Why any of you nimrods state as much shows you just how clueless you staunch defenders who are forever on the board responding to just about any comment criticizing the developers lack of addressing many of the issues that have plagued the game for the longest time now, but more importantly, that have not been addressed yet more and more new content has. It all goes hand in hand, new content development along with addressing existing bugs and glitches that were prevalent before the new content was released along with any new bugs and glitches that may be introduced with that new content being introduced.

Why so many people who have never been a part of a software development cycle think they are experts is beyond me?
Last edited by Anutha_1; Sep 22, 2023 @ 10:32am
jethro_4243 Sep 22, 2023 @ 10:48am 
Originally posted by Anutha_1:
Like I said before, those who feel compelled to constantly patrol the board responding to most comments are the equivalent of SJW’s.

When you’ve worked on actual software development projects in the real world and are held accountable for showing results, come back and see me.

In any type of software development, you don’t wait until the very last stage to address all your ongoing bugs all along. If you had any concept of software development, you’d realize as much.

No one in their right mind expects a completed product with each update released. Why any of you nimrods state as much shows you just how clueless you staunch defenders who are forever on the board responding to just about any comment criticizing the developers lack of addressing many of the issues that have plagued the game for the longest time now, but more importantly, that have not been addressed yet more and more new content has. It all goes hand in hand, new content development along with addressing existing bugs and glitches that were prevalent before the new content was released along with any new bugs and glitches that may be introduced with that new content being introduced.

Why so many people who have never been a part of a software development cycle think they are experts is beyond me?
What is the title of your game again ? i must have missed that.
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