Create axe?

[Hooch]

Are axes and other tools items you can craft? Or do you have to find them?

[Dreadful]

Yes you can craft axe at the anvil. you can create blacksmith stall with a smelter and a anvil. I found a Blacksmith stall at a farm also.

[Hooch]

I'm in the woods, have just a small, makeshift camp. I have only a saw. I can't chop wood, and the saw for some reason, doesn't seem to work on trees.

So am I supposed to wander around until I find proper tools to start being able to build things with?

[Tyrannosaurus Flex]

Alot of places to find axes as well, so far the best way to get resources is to go out and look for it.

[Dreadful]

Originally posted by Aionion:

I'm in the woods, have just a small, makeshift camp. I have only a saw. I can't chop wood, and the saw for some reason, doesn't seem to work on trees.

So am I supposed to wander around until I find proper tools to start being able to build things with?

Yes you need an axe to cut down trees

[Jennifufu]

Ok, this is stupid, I could understand the end crafting stuff not being complete but you should be able to craft simple stuff like an axe and a saw and not have to wander around until you find one. I had a saw, I used it once and then it just vanished out of my bag. I can't make another saw even though I have a ton of smelted metal and I can't make anything else without a saw to make the wood (2 x 4s) with so until I aimlessly wander around and happenstance to come across another saw I am stuck up "can't do anything" creek. Why can't I build a campfire to cook meat? I killed a bear and had tons of meat and nowhere to put it and no way to cook it.. how am I supposed to boil water to drink if I can't make a pot out of the metal that I have smelted?

I feel like there is a whole bunch of stuff that I am overlooking but I have clicked on everything and can't seem to find what I am needing for the startup. Lemme put it this way, I need item no. 1, to make item no. 1 I need item no. 2 which means that I need item no. 3 to gather item no. 2. There is no option to make item no. 3 so i can't, in turn, gather item no. 2 to use in making item no. 1.. I must be overlooking something.

[Sgt Smash]

Originally posted by Jennifufu:

Ok, this is stupid, I could understand the end crafting stuff not being complete but you should be able to craft simple stuff like an axe and a saw and not have to wander around until you find one. I had a saw, I used it once and then it just vanished out of my bag. I can't make another saw even though I have a ton of smelted metal and I can't make anything else without a saw to make the wood (2 x 4s) with so until I aimlessly wander around and happenstance to come across another saw I al stuck up can't do anything creek. Why can't I build a campfire to cook meat? I killed a bear and had tons of meat and nowhere to put it and no way to cook it.. how am I supposed to boil water to drink if I can't make a pot out of the metal that I have smelted?

I feel like there is a whole bunch of stuff that I am overlooking but I have clicked on everything and can't seem to find what I am needing for the startup. Lemme put it this way, I need item no. 1, to make item no. 1 I need item no. 2 which means that I need item no. 3 to gather item no. 2. There is no option to make item no. 3 so i can't, in turn, gather item no. 2 to use in making item no. 1.. I must be overlooking something.

Not sure what you're talking about

But if you're talking about crafting a axe then you already can!

If this is not what you're talking about then my bad i can't understand you!

[Jennifufu]

Originally posted by Sgt Smash:

Originally posted by Jennifufu:

Ok, this is stupid, I could understand the end crafting stuff not being complete but you should be able to craft simple stuff like an axe and a saw and not have to wander around until you find one. I had a saw, I used it once and then it just vanished out of my bag. I can't make another saw even though I have a ton of smelted metal and I can't make anything else without a saw to make the wood (2 x 4s) with so until I aimlessly wander around and happenstance to come across another saw I al stuck up can't do anything creek. Why can't I build a campfire to cook meat? I killed a bear and had tons of meat and nowhere to put it and no way to cook it.. how am I supposed to boil water to drink if I can't make a pot out of the metal that I have smelted?

I feel like there is a whole bunch of stuff that I am overlooking but I have clicked on everything and can't seem to find what I am needing for the startup. Lemme put it this way, I need item no. 1, to make item no. 1 I need item no. 2 which means that I need item no. 3 to gather item no. 2. There is no option to make item no. 3 so i can't, in turn, gather item no. 2 to use in making item no. 1.. I must be overlooking something.

Not sure what you're talking about

But if you're talking about crafting a axe then you already can!

If this is not what you're talking about then my bad i can't understand you!

Found a workbench.. I knew I was missing something, that's how you craft a saw. And I was needing a saw to craft wood to use to make an axe. Yes, I was talking about making an axe. This game seems very disjointed. >.>

[Jennifufu]

But you also need an axe to cut down trees to get the logs to make the wood out of. Wtf game.. wtf.

[Sgt Smash]

Originally posted by Jennifufu:

But you also need an axe to cut down trees to get the logs to make the wood out of. Wtf game.. wtf.

You can find wood all over the place and find axe's naer where you first spawn in the game

[Donov]

All of the tools you need can be found by looting, the crafting of tools is something that you do when you run out of the looted tools in game so more of an end game mechanic. In a real world post apocalypse do you think, "I need to make an axe" or do you think "I bet there's an axe in that garden shed"

There is a spawed workbench (Blue building on the main road) and a spawned smith/anvil (Next to the farm house) already in the game also, so you do have what you need to craft these items. However its MUCH easier to loot (which is a main game mechanic) and use the loot to do what you want.

The map is relatively small, and so having a "small base" where you cant do anything isnt really an excuse, explore, loot, scavange.

[Jennifufu]

It shouldn't be based on getting lucky. If you are trying to survive in a survival game you should start your focus on being able to be self sufficient, to be able to craft your own tools to get things done in case you can't find any tools just laying around.

Finding them laying around is cool and useful but say you are wandering around for a few hours and can't find a saw, like I did, you would have spent all that time looking for a lucky drop when you should have been able to make it far far more quickly on your own.

Say hypothetically, if you have the capacity to craft your own tools you wouldn't have to go from cabin to cabin and subject yourself to fighting zombies and not have to chance hitting the zombie time and again for it not to register because, I don't know, the game registered it as you hitting the door frame or w/e, this has also happened to me.. and you get knocked out and lose a bunch of your stuff.

You should be able to make your own workbench, you shouldn't have to hope that there is one already setup for you all convenient like. I understand that it's early access, these type of things are hardly smoothed out by early access time, I'm just saying that the basic crafting abilities are very limited and should be expanded upon.

I mean I shouldn't need a crafting station to make a basic woven fiber and branch bow, or the arrows for that matter. Or a campfire, that should be like one of the first few things that you can make, maybe I overlooked it but I couldn't find anything in my basic crafting stuff that had anything to do with building a campfire.

[Outcast]

Can you make an axe without using any tools in reality? Can you make a saw without using any tools in reality? The answer to both is no, so why do you think you should be able to do that in a game? If you had an axe and a saw along with a hammer, a forge and a knowledge of advanced smithing, you could make them. See how you need the tools to make the tools even today? You aren't gathering rocks and making stone tools, then working your way up to copper and eventually iron, so don't complain you have to find existing tools in order to be able to make replacements or you might find yourself having to gather stones, make stone axes, use them to bash away at a tree for hours to get a log, and then spend days trying to turn that log into usable shapes because you're hitting it with a rock.
Let's be honest here, if you were thrust into this situation today, you wouldn't be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ around trying to make an axe or a saw, you'd be hoping and praying you find one in that empty shack by the road because that's reality.

[Hooch]

Originally posted by Outcast:

Can you make an axe without using any tools in reality?

Yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN-34JfUrHY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPoIxeu2XXM

Can you make a saw without using any tools in reality?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrbPNNCQ90Q

But you don't need a saw if you have an axe.

The answer to both is no,

Wrong.

so why do you think you should be able to do that in a game? If you had an axe and a saw along with a hammer, a forge and a knowledge of advanced smithing, you could make them. See how you need the tools to make the tools even today?

You don't need iron or steel to make tools. Any survivalist or any tribe in S America or even Africa knows that to be true.

You aren't gathering rocks and making stone tools, then working your way up to copper and eventually iron, so don't complain you have to find existing tools in order to be able to make replacements or you might find yourself having to gather stones, make stone axes, use them to bash away at a tree for hours to get a log, and then spend days trying to turn that log into usable shapes because you're hitting it with a rock.

It doesn't take that long, at all. It's a matter of minutes to hours.

Let's be honest here, if you were thrust into this situation today, you wouldn't be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ around trying to make an axe or a saw, you'd be hoping and praying you find one in that empty shack by the road because that's reality.

Not necessarily.

Also, it's stupid to need a workbench for basic weapon such as bow and arrow.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLoukoBs8TE

No civilization in history has ever required one. Well, except for the one in 2018 during an apocalypse apparently.

[Edemption]

LOL... This is a game that the Dev created in his vision. If you want something that real feeling.. GO play Green Hell or something.
This game you run around and loot at the beginning. You can find mulitples of everything. House's to make as base etc.

[Jennifufu]

If I were to say that running around and looting stuff on the chance of getting lucky and finding some cool stuff is how the game is to be played then it would make sense for me to actually be able to move my character better.

As it is the characters walk/run like someone very overweight that is probably about a donut or two away from a heart attack. Though I do like being able to run as fast backwards as I can forwards, that's a nice touch.

If it's focused around running around and finding stuff then why have a crafting portion at all? Why are there rocks everywhere if I have no use for them? (on a side note why do I constantly feel that there is a yeti up on the hills above me throwing rocks at me and barely missing every single time?)

I'm sure that the developer hasn't fully filled out the crafting stuff situation. I'm sure they'll get around to it but it seems weird to be able to drive cars around but not be able to make a stone axe..