BEAUTIFUL DESOLATION

BEAUTIFUL DESOLATION

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The Brotherhood  [developer] Mar 1, 2020 @ 8:18am
PLAYER ALIGNMENT AND CHOICES
I am really interested in the choices players are making. In most of the let's plays and according to the Steam Stats most of you are playing the good guy. You are nice to Don and Pooch and the denizens in the world.

Do you normally play this way? Anybody like being the bad guy? :)
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If I being honest the “bad guy” scenario in this game is very silly, you just curse at everyone.

I went

Nice to pooch
Nice to Don
Helped Hanasi
Killed the flower guys
Killed the Agnate princess
Killed the Fley (duh)
Helped the Nest

And still got the nicest ending I think, despite exterminating 2 species, allowing nest to consume the world, and forcing don to play the game.

Last edited by American Dove Mitten; Mar 1, 2020 @ 9:38am
The Brotherhood  [developer] Mar 1, 2020 @ 9:37am 
Originally posted by American Beetle:
If I being honest the “bad guy” scenario in this game is very silly, you just curse at everyone.

I went

Nice to pooch
Nice to Don
Helped Hanasi
Killed the flower guys
Killed the Agnate princess
Killed the Fley (duh)
Helped the Nest

And still got the nicest ending I think

The decision to nuke the different factions doesn't really play into the karma, it is more about who Mark is as a person and how he treats the characters during discussions.
Originally posted by The Brotherhood:
Originally posted by American Beetle:
If I being honest the “bad guy” scenario in this game is very silly, you just curse at everyone.

I went

Nice to pooch
Nice to Don
Helped Hanasi
Killed the flower guys
Killed the Agnate princess
Killed the Fley (duh)
Helped the Nest

And still got the nicest ending I think

The decision to nuke the different factions doesn't really play into the karma, it is more about who Mark is as a person and how he treats the characters during discussions.

Yea unfortunately most of the karma choices are not that interesting, you either nice or drop F bombs all game.

Those events should have been a part of karma, I mean, I basically destroyed the world by allowing nest to live. I committed 3 genocides,
Last edited by American Dove Mitten; Mar 1, 2020 @ 9:41am
Hesmah Mar 1, 2020 @ 11:17am 
I just finished and got the nicest ending. As for karma, like others mentioned the bad choices felt kind of silly. An unarmed traveler threatening hulking metal machines, and just being a ♥♥♥♥ in general.

..By the way who is Agnate Princess? Don't think I ever met anyone like that on my run. I only completed one arena fight though if it's related to that. Stopped after Don asked me not to do it again and nuked the arena from orbit.
The Brotherhood  [developer] Mar 1, 2020 @ 11:21am 
You mean Nevrogorses?
Last edited by The Brotherhood; Mar 1, 2020 @ 11:21am
Hesmah Mar 1, 2020 @ 11:33am 
Not sure, just something American Beetle mentioned in comment so I wondered if I missed something. That's probly it though yeah.
Last edited by Hesmah; Mar 1, 2020 @ 11:35am
mm.324 Mar 1, 2020 @ 1:34pm 
Originally posted by The Brotherhood:
I am really interested in the choices players are making. In most of the let's plays and according to the Steam Stats most of you are playing the good guy. You are nice to Don and Pooch and the denizens in the world.

Do you normally play this way? Anybody like being the bad guy? :)

How does Steam Stats tell you what type of character people are playing?
Ty Cobb Mar 1, 2020 @ 5:13pm 
Nice to pooch
Nice to Don
Helped Hanasi
Didn't blow up the Caecus drones
Helped the Nest kill the command module
Gave the Moss the terraforming bio-thing
Killed the Arena Priestess (nest token was the only reason I could beat the arena)
Killed the Fley (Ion cannon online)
Reunited the bone maidens
Turned Lebanon's ass over to the whither lady for whining about it (he didnt even care that I fixed the terraforming module, that jackass)

I had some empty pictures in the temple at the end though. I think because I won the arena but never gave the mask to the Kettle bot because I already had some red mercury from the Nest.

I tried using both in a save but it did nothing special so I went back and kept the mask to scan it in both places. I scanned almost EVERYTHING from the 5 hours of backtracking I did before the update that let me see where the dead Fley worm was. Never did find out what the "research data unlocked" thing did. Using the proto nanite on the fley console was a fun little thing to do.

Also spent a lot of time going all over the place to see if there was a way to avoid blowing up the good Dr. Siwa, but I never found one.

Of course you have to help the Moss because they talk like Mr. Bill from the old SNL skits. They look like they are pretty happy just sliming all over the cave walls, and there was one in the lower left that is thrilled to just hop around in a circle. Uncontrollably multiplying nanomachines are probably a bigger threat to a world of robot people than some happy cave fungus. Probably.

Also never got behind the arena in my main game because if you don't talk to the bot there before you beat the arena (I did the arena last) I don't think you ever can. I went to an earlier save to see what I missed, and so in my main game I never got the convo with Don when you see that people really kill each other there.


Originally posted by mm.324:

How does Steam Stats tell you what type of character people are playing?

The % of players that got what achievement.
Stoibs Mar 1, 2020 @ 5:14pm 
I mean it's not really surprising, it's human nature that most of us try to be 'good' or play good guys in games. There was that article which just made the rounds the other day which revealed about 92% of people played Mass Effect as Paragon also.

To be honest playing the 'jerkass who just yells and swears at people' isn't really all that fulfilling in games since very rarely has it been mastered or implemented in a satisfying way.

About the 'worst' I can remember being in a game was moreso flamboyantly trickster-like than evil (The sarcastic/flippant dialogue choices in Dragon Age Inquisition) or just chaotically borderline insane (Most of Disco Elysium's carefree/self depreciating/Amnesic choices / Raving Malkavian in Vampire..)
Last edited by Stoibs; Mar 1, 2020 @ 5:18pm
Ranzaar Mar 1, 2020 @ 6:22pm 
Cuz in real life we all are good guys??? :steamhappy::steamhappy::steamhappy:
Last edited by Ranzaar; Mar 1, 2020 @ 6:22pm
The Brotherhood  [developer] Mar 1, 2020 @ 8:51pm 
Originally posted by mm.324:
Originally posted by The Brotherhood:
I am really interested in the choices players are making. In most of the let's plays and according to the Steam Stats most of you are playing the good guy. You are nice to Don and Pooch and the denizens in the world.

Do you normally play this way? Anybody like being the bad guy? :)

How does Steam Stats tell you what type of character people are playing?

The temple that is unlocked at the end of the game reflects the character that was played. Ie. Generosity.
Last edited by The Brotherhood; Mar 1, 2020 @ 8:52pm
mm.324 Mar 2, 2020 @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by Ty Cobb:
Originally posted by mm.324:

How does Steam Stats tell you what type of character people are playing?

The % of players that got what achievement.

Thanks:104:
Xzylvador Mar 2, 2020 @ 12:40pm 
First playthrough I try to be a nice guy.
If it's worth a second playthrough, I take the opposite route...
This seems to be worth a second playthrough so far.
Correct me if I wrong: Simulacrum represents your current karma. It in the white zone if you're a nice guy and in red - if you're totally ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
But what is the difference between blue and yellow zones? Is it "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but not at all" and "not so nice guy, but still nice", or smth else?
The Brotherhood  [developer] Mar 5, 2020 @ 12:14pm 
Yes. You got it! 🙂
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