Do yourself a favor and

[黒猫]

Get the original 1996 game from Japan (it's not expensive), apply the fan translation (probably the best VN fan translation ever made without unnecessary localization and culturalization) and other restoration patches.
There's literally no reason for being interested in this remake. Especially if we are talking about western version.
>worse soundtrack
>toned down story
>arguably worse art
>worse voice acting (still good, but original VAs were phenomenal)
Additionally it's published by Spike Chunsoft so who know what they had done with the translation. You can see how americanized it is on the trailer, so you can expect the worst. Especially that their translations are generally terrible. Not Nintendo-tier but still.
Edit. As expected, the TL is terrible (they even changed the name of very important character).

[Bazzy]

Would like to give us a few examples, if you have any sources. I'm intersted in learning what they changed, the assumption regarding toned down story, were does it come form?

I recently played a remake of an older nitro plus game called game "Kikokugai: The Cyber Slayer" the remake did indeed remove the explicit h-content, but the original had mosaic censorship already, so i was fine with it, tbh. The story has a lot of violence, rape etc in it and nothing of it got changed. Music is subjective, so i can not really say much about it.

So sorry if i find the story claim in particular hard to bellive, if you have sources for this, please post them!

https://twitter.com/SpikeChunsoft_e/status/1131261792787738624

Here are a few comparison shots for the confirmed toned down console version in the comments posted. Nothing regarding story yet, though.

[黒猫]

That's only one of many reasons that I mentioned.
But H scenes in yu-no were really important for characterization, so removing them wasn't a wise decision to be honest.

[Bazzy]

Oh so you lied, got it. This is what is happening with elf game remakes for years now, so i just accepted it and my example stands, if its done the same way i will ignore it. And i would really appriciate it if you would not flat out lie next time and provide valuable information if you claim something this bold.

[黒猫]

Mind telling me where exactly I lied?

[etch]

I rather Spike Chunsoft release a DLC at least for PC owners or bonus download to play the Windows PC version.

[PGBP88]

Originally posted by etch:

I rather Spike Chunsoft release a DLC at least for PC owners or bonus download to play the Windows PC version.

The original Windows port is voiceless,has extra censorship and inferior sound quality. The patch fixes all of that(and add the Sega Saturn voices and even some of its exclusive CGs where it was feasible),so just stick with it and play the remake as its own thing.
Maybe the remake simplified the navigation,since the original one can be a pain in the ass without a walkthrough,forcing you to do lots of backtracking and running in circles if you don't know what you're doing.
Besides,the original game was only included in a limited edition release and only for the PS4 and Vita. The Switch didn't get it even in Japan(getting that 8-bit game in its place) so I doubt they will bother to localize it.

[etch]

Originally posted by PGBP88:

Originally posted by etch:

I rather Spike Chunsoft release a DLC at least for PC owners or bonus download to play the Windows PC version.

The original Windows port is voiceless,has extra censorship and inferior sound quality. The patch fixes all of that(and add the Sega Saturn voices and even some of its exclusive CGs where it was feasible),so just stick with it and play the remake as its own thing.
Maybe the remake simplified the navigation,since the original one can be a pain in the ass without a walkthrough,forcing you to do lots of backtracking and running in circles if you don't know what you're doing.
Besides,the original game was only included in a limited edition release and only for the PS4 and Vita. The Switch didn't get it even in Japan(getting that 8-bit game in its place) so I doubt they will bother to localize it.

I am going to play the remake as its own, but if it was possible I would rather get it from them directly, and then just use the fan patches and mods that add in the voices and some of the CGs.

[Bazzy]

Originally posted by 黒猫:

Mind telling me where exactly I lied?

You edited it, but we both know you explicly stated there would be censorship regarding the story. There is no indication for that at all and you could not give a source for it either.
Stating something that is not true is a lie. Sad i even have to tell you this.

[22144418]

this is the only legal way to get yu-no as of now; i believe the only way to get it currently is to torrent, and that actually isn't valid, especially that there's no charge behind torrenting it.

a lot of the new changes are to attract the modern audience, for the majority wouldn't bother getting some visual novel way back in 1996. while it's not matching to the original, as of what i've heard, it's not nothing; very little people know about it, despite being what inspired so many works that others call classics, despite the fact that yu-no played a part. steins;gate, island, and even clannad take influence.

music and art is subjective, though i agree myself. (i want thicc mitsuki...) it's quite polished, too; nothing wrong with the artstyle. the music i can get if they cant rival it, but i do hope that they bring it in certain moments for the sake of the old game.

i recommend getting it anyway; i'm gonna bet my money that it's worth it. i haven't played the ps4 (i dont have one), but i have played the real deal. i may be an idiot to decide with what i can see now, but it shows some promise.

[Viscera]

I mainly plan to get it for the same of having bought a version of YU-NO. I'm not that bothered by it not being as good as the original (which I wouldn't have expected even if it's more faithful).

But yeah, I do think that the new artstyle isn't as good and I don't look forward to what Spike Chunsoft does with the dialogue. With the "toning down", it depends on what exactly (not that I could even say what I'm fine with and what not, having not finished the game yet). I sure wouldn't mind if they remove Ayumi's suicide or at least play it out differently. The way it is in the original, it reminds me more of DDLC than any VN ever should.

I'm also not sure whether the sex scenes are that essential. Of the three I've seen so far, the only one that I thought was more or less significant was Mitsuki's. Ayumi's felt more like a reward for finishing her route (although by the time it happened, I was kinda fed up with her route, which may have colored my opinions), while Eriko's was just kinda... there.

[Taiketsu]

After playing the original game its also a question how much they gonna censor the sexual parts in regards to certain charas. without any hints in this regard some charas wont be fleshed out or some questions might left open im looking at you KANNA! .
But overall i hope the flair of the original game wont be left out and be a worthy remake.

[Alexei101mercurio]

Who cares. Gonna buy it and play it anyway. Initial stuff was great which is exactly why the remake will be played through.

[etch]

https://twitter.com/Theswweet/status/1147232585367482368

[Morsealworth]

Originally posted by 22144418:

music and art is subjective

Music is not as subjective as you would think, if you consider a very important point: That music was written on entirely different platform with entirely different limitations and sounds. And Umemoto-sensei did a fantastic job not just going around those peculiarities, but using them in his work. And that is precisely why if you try to change the sound system it would be a change of the entirety of musical instrument. And we all would agree that playing party of one instrument on an entirely different one would sound off-key. And that's precisely why without the original FM-based notes the opening sounds like a right mess (very noticeable on 1:18), where notes that originally formed a complex melody now just ram each other like some kind of massive car accident. It just wasn't created for this kind of musical synthesis.

Ironically, the Sega Saturn port did the exact same thing and angered Umemoro Ryu-sensei, the original composer, quite a lot for not even inviting him to do the necessary adjustments so it doesn't sound extremely off-key. Now that he isn't there anymore, new publisher just goes and does the exact same thing. Will they ever learn?


UPD: Oh, and actually, you can say art isn't as subjective as well. You see, Mitsuci isn't the only thicc one here. Takuya's defining character trait is his Oedipus complex. There is a reason the only character with comparably small breasts is Kanna - she reminds him of his mother in a different way.And everyone else, including even Ayumi, has a certain proportions often associated with a maternal figure.

[22144418]

now that it's been a while, i agree; it's really not in the end. with limitations, things were actually better because people had to play around with them in clever ways than to just hard press their stomachs to get ♥♥♥♥ out.
music is so exceptional that i've been listening to it nonstop for weeks already since i've downloaded it. and that's not easy to make me do with other vn music, aside from the time i was lacking on new visual novels. the art is clearly geared for more acceptance to the modern audience, but that takes so much away; it looks like your cliche anime adaptation or something now, with a touch of something old...

i wonder if that music mistake was based on blind eye of the beholder bias that the porters had.

and to top it off, spike chunsoft isnt gonna do ♥♥♥♥ about it, as all they care about is the fame tied with money. you should see what minimalistic things they did for the merch, when they could have done so much more (especially when considering the anime adaptation).
it really sucks that this is the only legal way to get yu-no. it's been getting way more flack than it deserves... there's the MAL review, this, and the merch.