I'm watching the anime, is it still worth playing the game?

[ViRiX Dreamcore]

I had no idea this even existed until I saw the anime, then I saw the twitter post. So this is my very first time hearing that there's a game of this. Now I know everyone's going to tell me to go play the old one because it's supposidly better.... but this one is right here (or will be in a few months)

So there's no h-content... did that really add anything significant to the story? I hear people complaining about that stuff all the time and for those who are coming across the IP for the first time, is that really going to change anything? I'm really enjoying the anime a lot and there's really no h stuff in there at all aside from a few slight references or jokes.

Thanks.

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by Alex:

Originally posted by Ruri Kurosaki:

OBJECTION, the remake first came out in 2017.

People who didn't know about this weren't going to know about it til the anime.

I meant people in the West were introduced first to the anime.

Still, if you didn't know about this either in '96, or '17 then you probably weren't going to find out about this until the anime, any real objection to that?

[22144418]

if you want to know why the idea of anime before vn is bad, see Island; the anime is a disaster.
ironically the same studio as the one that made the yu-no anime.

it is virtually impossible to get the original legally, unless if someone's holding a copy somewhere after all this time. the chances of that are almost none, if not none

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by 22144418:

if you want to know why the idea of anime before vn is bad, see Island; the anime is a disaster.
ironically the same studio as the one that made the yu-no anime.

it is virtually impossible to get the original legally, unless if someone's holding a copy somewhere after all this time. the chances of that are almost none, if not none

Like I said before, on JPN ebay it's 7200-7500 YEN, you aren't looking hard enough. Never advocate illegal methods to get the game.

[22144418]

the real creators are dead for real. Also, I wouldn't give money to Spike Chunsoft anymore either; they got mine from danganronpa and steins;gate, and the only copy on e-Bay is 90 quid or so ( another at 26k on auction ), which is just a copy bought by someone else.

[Wyrtt]

Originally posted by Ruri Kurosaki:

Originally posted by 22144418:

if you want to know why the idea of anime before vn is bad, see Island; the anime is a disaster.
ironically the same studio as the one that made the yu-no anime.

it is virtually impossible to get the original legally, unless if someone's holding a copy somewhere after all this time. the chances of that are almost none, if not none

Like I said before, on JPN ebay it's 7200-7500 YEN, you aren't looking hard enough. Never advocate illegal methods to get the game.

People deserving to get money already wen out of bussiness. Spike is not a developer but a parasitic publisher.

[22144418]

Originally posted by Wyrtt:

Originally posted by Ruri Kurosaki:

Like I said before, on JPN ebay it's 7200-7500 YEN, you aren't looking hard enough. Never advocate illegal methods to get the game.

People deserving to get money already wen out of bussiness. Spike is not a developer but a parasitic publisher.

laughs in nonary games

[Wyrtt]

Originally posted by 22144418:

Originally posted by Wyrtt:

People deserving to get money already wen out of bussiness. Spike is not a developer but a parasitic publisher.

laughs in nonary games

Which nonary games? Only 2 were developed by Spike with Freelancer Kotaro Uchikoshi aka the only reason they were good left company after VRL. He returned to help with AI Somnius but left to create his own company Too Kyo Games.
Spike were nothing without him and will return to nothing once again.

[22144418]

basically, whatever spike didnt give at least a fair half of the treatment of dgrp and s;g. assuming the others got justice it deserved like those two sets of vns/games.

they did great on those two because they obviously sell, thanks to their high rep. the others? of course not. they play it safe, and then here we are, finding a product that was worth risking, but just that risk factor turned them down from it.

it's also Mages that is the issue too. spike didnt even advertise the game to a reasonably ok extent, and all those that dont know that pass by will think "boy, this classic is as ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as the stuff we get! pshaw", and little do they know what made the vn good in the first place! now at this rate, no future sojourners will understand how great of a vn yu-no truly is, and its history may as well fall into obscurity. On top of that, the real creators are deceased, and the respect gets funneled into spike's vault, or it puts down the rep of not only them but also the original creators, who haven't even laid an eye on the remake. Mages hurts those that actually invest in this, as they get fed the localized translations, and the art style that you will find anywhere compared to the unique art in the vn. the remade music is a no; the devs recognize it wholeheartedly, given the setting you can do.

Furthermore, they could have done more with the merch and advertising. You can see their twitter feed, and it's clear they didnt do much; look it up yourself, you will understand easily. And the merch isn't even merch; they just sold eriko pantsu poster, and the only other thing is the artbook, which should not have came along with the initial remake english release (as that will spoil newcomers so easily). The store page gives off way too many facts that the reader is not supposed to know first thing, and you could just look at the anime to see all the things they could have done with merch: a necklace that looks like kanna's, a reflector device (but you only get 1 jewel and the rest could be distributed to other places to buy yu-no merch so people travel around for it), a board of that puzzle game (vn readers would know), and maybe even an auction for a model of sakaimachi (see anime, where yuuki and mio make it over the anime's course of events). but too much risk and safe stubborn play, right? A shame that this remake is made with numbers rather than inquiry

[ViRiX Dreamcore]

Hm thanks for understanding. I know what you mean by the anime kind of distorting things. I played DR before I saw any of the anime and the game is difinately better although the anime gets the job done with the plot to some degree.

As for Spike's other stuff, I don't have too much of an issue with it. Zanki seems pretty cool and AI seems pretty freakin' awesome. Although those may have been Uchikoshi's works. Eh thanks for the advice, but ~$70-90 for the older version that may not work on my system may be a bit complicated and I kind of got out of the idea of pirating stuff. Plus if the new one has an option for the old music, that'll be pretty awesome, plus I'm use to the character designs from the anime, so I think I'll be okay. I know how you guys who played the original feel because I feel the same on other things, but at least I'm able to experience it in some form.

Thanks for all of the help and input.

[Chiang]

Finished the game few days ago, and then I go watch the anime. The anime change the story a bit. In my opinion, the game is better cuz the anime cant really catch the way you play the game. I mean how you use the ADSM system in the game and it is quite an amazing experience.

And for people who dislike the remade version by comparing it to the original version, I have to say I like the story but the old art and system hinders many younger VN player to try it. I love this game, no matter it's the original one or the remade one, so I hope more and more people will have a chance to experience this great story by playing the remade one.I believe it is the purpose to come out this remake version(sry for my poor English

[22144418]

agree with you on the anime sense. the anime did try, but it just doesn't happen, like other game adaptations.
the thing is that the demographic this game is for is not even for teens, but for adults that aren't gonna get any taller (aside from really late bloomers, but even then). additionally (i feel that this was cut out in the remake, but i wouldn't know), takuya has a milf preference, and only got into kanna because that he felt that kanna was somehow like his mother. you would be quite challenged to say that the heroines (save yu-no, obviously) are well matured adults, particularly the adults themselves.

it's something to abide to, given that it's the only way people can play yu-no legally, save for some really lucky connections. however, some will get rubbed the wrong way about it by a sense that's not even the player's fault, but the people behind the game's, and that's what I dont like about it.

[Chiang]

Agreed, there are some contents really not for teens, I mean the Kanna route and the KunKun thing, I was like 'WTF?' when I was at that scene. Can't really comment on character's behavior. However, what I think this VN stands out from other VN is its story structure and its system but not characters. I've never played any VN like this one, it is really special.(not to mention it is actually a story 23 years ago).So remake is acceptable for me as long as they don't change the story.

[Taiketsu]

Tbh i did like some of the changes in the anime for example:
Takuya meeting Kanna as a child which would make sense since she is over 50years+ old and Kodai adopted her so meeting her as a child wouldnt be out of question. Also the beach scene where the charas did bound a little.
Also the ending where Yuuki didnt give up on Mio and decided to chase after her or Takuya realising he saved his 2. daughter.

What i didnt like in the isekai arc where how theyy needed Kunkun to die when all the resistance member come 1 day later wtf? In the vn they needed survive and made that decision.
Sayless suicide was better? i guess. Also the part where Ayumi had an right hand man and how they knew everything etc. or how they discoverd Takuya andn co. spoiled it a bit for me.
Also the imperial city was described as almost empty and mostly soldier where there. The anime made the city more lively while the finale arc vs Ryuu was also ok in a way.