nodachi is easily the weakest class - why?

[CrittZ]

This game has terrible balancing, is there any point playing nodatchi?

- 1 hit killed by most other classes
- Abilitys are weak, knockdown is linear and short ranged, you have to be exact to land it.
- Easily interrupted
- Basic attack damage is lowest/slowest,
- Slowest movement class, other classes have escape abilities.
- Lifesteal is worthless.
- Trouble killing even basic troops - forget trying to kill archer troops/muskets.
- Most expensive class to play due to repair and replenish troop costs vs dmg taken.
- Permastuned by everyone else.
isnt this supposed to be (one of) the damage class?

Started the game playing nodachi, then tried LS/S, DB, Bow, SS - all these classes far out perform nodachi - by a lot, I would recommend to anyone not to play nodachi unless you are a masochist.

For me:-
1) LS+ Shield / Glave
2) (Not even close)
3) Musket / Bow
4) SS+ Shield / DB / Spear
5) Short Bow

Not tried Poleaxe so no opinion there.

I like the nodachi class, it would be my main but its just too weak/expensive to play.

[Echo]

nodachi slaps with full agi, just sayin. total ♥♥♥♥ with str

[Bybloss]

i got a t3 dragons leap with a nice sword . nodachi isnt weak at all . i use a wierd stat balance , its like 17 str 17 ag 17 armor (this is a universal build to use on all weapons) . The only complaint I have with nodachi is the mechanics of the dragons leap . its a pretty long charge and rather easy to interupt . But IMO , nodachi is the best weapon to use to break shield walls as dragon leap can go right thru shield formations and punish the entire group with AOE strikes . its doesnt stun very much but basic strikes stumble people giving it almost a crowd control effect as well

[Kanjejou]

Nodachi may lack CC but all its attack put hard daze with long animation allowing free mobs slaughtering. The skill are fast (their animatyion are smooth) and low CD, you get self heal AoE and Mono target damages...but are limited to med armor which doesnt change much at higher level battle.

Your basic attack also have very decent range compared to for exemple sword or poleaxe who have short range attacks

Its a very good weapon that can allow you to out sustain pretty much anyone in duel and skirmished with troops.

you can clean mobs duel AOE and sustain , and have decent CC. if this is being weak damn then every class are weak man.

And you also can break shield wall and sustain on them can decently fight spear and pikes thanks to range once again. Only ranged units can be a pain to fight( but only shielded heroes acan really yolo in ranged units)

A good placement and use of your range advantage will make you a pain to deal with

[Lachanche]

Hey guys i recorded a deathmatch where i play with nodachi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXjrTVBKEiM

If you play nodachi in deathmatch you have to be super careful.

Use bloodthirsty to reposition when you are exposed, move in a zig-zag pattern to avoid getting sniped by muskets and longbows, chain your bloodthirsty twice to keep people locked down when you get them out of position.

[BIT Bear]

I don't play Nodachi but I obviously do fight them or see them regularly and I must admit that Nodachi is one of the least threatening classes. Going up agains L/SS or Poleaxe is much scarier

[bkkm12]

I am a newbie coming in to learn, so basically i get all of your pt. Nodachi is definitely requires skills to win. And maybe very good skill player can use this class well. As majority ppl or OP should stay away from Nodachi class. So I think i will start with other class like Long Sword, or gun. lol because i m good in FPS.

[NoobSkills]

Good nodachi does just fine, but yes it is definitely one of the weaker classes.

[Wolf]

Weaker? yes. Still gets me MVP/top 3 most games? also yes.

I'd love a buff in some areas don't get me wrong, but you can still perform perfectly fine with this class.

Edit-

My battle stats (nodachi only): https://i.gyazo.com/6c6303e01f7489fd07f3294059c39c03.png

Not belittling in any way here, but simply as proof some can perform better with this class than others, and that you still have some room to improve and get better use out of the class. I run a full str build with Fearless and Steadfast, Tiger's Claw, Monstrous Blade and Bloodthirsty. I don't run an ult, but imo neither are great (Dragon's Leap would be better without the 2 sec charge).

[NoobSkills]

Wolfie の投稿を引用：

Weaker? yes. Still gets me MVP/top 3 most games? also yes.

I'd love a buff in some areas don't get me wrong, but you can still perform perfectly fine with this class.

Edit-

My battle stats (nodachi only): https://i.gyazo.com/6c6303e01f7489fd07f3294059c39c03.png

Not belittling in any way here, but simply as proof some can perform better with this class than others, and that you still have some room to improve and get better use out of the class. I run a full str build with Fearless and Steadfast, Tiger's Claw, Monstrous Blade and Bloodthirsty. I don't run an ult, but imo neither are great (Dragon's Leap would be better without the 2 sec charge).

I assume you're too low level to actually make an actual informed opinion on nodachi based off those stats. Not saying your stats are bad, but that I assume you are still very low level. I do think it might be a decent class, but since it is underplayed. There aren't as many guides or helpful hints on how you should build your hero. I've seen some amazing siege matches with nodachi tho, could have just been luck, but my guess is the player used the hero in a good way and did well because of it.

[Wolf]

NoobSkills の投稿を引用：

Wolfie の投稿を引用：

Weaker? yes. Still gets me MVP/top 3 most games? also yes.

I'd love a buff in some areas don't get me wrong, but you can still perform perfectly fine with this class.

Edit-

My battle stats (nodachi only): https://i.gyazo.com/6c6303e01f7489fd07f3294059c39c03.png

Not belittling in any way here, but simply as proof some can perform better with this class than others, and that you still have some room to improve and get better use out of the class. I run a full str build with Fearless and Steadfast, Tiger's Claw, Monstrous Blade and Bloodthirsty. I don't run an ult, but imo neither are great (Dragon's Leap would be better without the 2 sec charge).

I assume you're too low level to actually make an actual informed opinion on nodachi based off those stats. Not saying your stats are bad, but that I assume you are still very low level. I do think it might be a decent class, but since it is underplayed. There aren't as many guides or helpful hints on how you should build your hero. I've seen some amazing siege matches with nodachi tho, could have just been luck, but my guess is the player used the hero in a good way and did well because of it.

You're correct, I'm still a low level. However me and OP are within 6 levels of eachother, so my opinion actually couldn't be more valid as an isolated experience/stats comparison. I'm not trying to preach to high levels here.

[Lachanche]

Early on nodachi is amazing, you can push into enemy units and out-sustain most enemy heroes in a brawl.

Nodachi starts to lose effectiveness when this is no longer possible, when battlefields are dominated by high tier units, when enemy heroes are either fully invested into armor or play ranged and snipe you from safe places, when team fights make or break games.

In a team fight nodachi objectively brings very little to the table: you can play as an harasser but dual blades and muskets are better at doing that, you can play as a frontline but any heavy armor hero is better at doing that, your specialty very rarely shines as the only units you can kill quickly are also capable of killing you just as quickly (arquebusiers, fusiliers, namkhan, imperial.

[RudeDawg]

I love playing the Nodachi - have him fully unlocked and I did really well with him at lower and mid levels.

But find the Nodachi "lacking" in high level play.

The only thing he really has going for him is the short CD knockdown.

I like Dragon Leap - but hate the long charge up time.

Now that I am higher level I find his damage sub par.

I use Nodachi for pve content to level up my troops - but I do not take him into siege.

Spear, Glaive and Pole are so much better.

[Mohammed Rajab Wali]

when will you talk about the trojan people talk about in the reviews? they just do it for no reason?

[CrittZ]

Wolfie の投稿を引用：

Weaker? yes. Still gets me MVP/top 3 most games? also yes.

I'd love a buff in some areas don't get me wrong, but you can still perform perfectly fine with this class.

Edit-

My battle stats (nodachi only): https://i.gyazo.com/6c6303e01f7489fd07f3294059c39c03.png

Not belittling in any way here, but simply as proof some can perform better with this class than others, and that you still have some room to improve and get better use out of the class. I run a full str build with Fearless and Steadfast, Tiger's Claw, Monstrous Blade and Bloodthirsty. I don't run an ult, but imo neither are great (Dragon's Leap would be better without the 2 sec charge).

Appreciate the comment Wolfie, nice stats btw - yeah not saying nodachi is useless, just that in comparison to the other classes, you will do better with any of them.

Only need to look at the toolkits of the other classes and compare to nodachi to see there is no comparison, currently.

It would be nice to balance the classes more and remove the skill cooldown bug from when you get hit - also if you only get staggered when hit from behind, instead of this unavoidable perma-stun meta and have negative/positive effects to wearing heavy/light armour.

Sadly, I cant see any of this changing - so my post was just to warn new players of the downfalls of picking nodachi.

[Wolf]

CrittZ の投稿を引用：

Wolfie の投稿を引用：

Weaker? yes. Still gets me MVP/top 3 most games? also yes.

I'd love a buff in some areas don't get me wrong, but you can still perform perfectly fine with this class.

Edit-

My battle stats (nodachi only): https://i.gyazo.com/6c6303e01f7489fd07f3294059c39c03.png

Not belittling in any way here, but simply as proof some can perform better with this class than others, and that you still have some room to improve and get better use out of the class. I run a full str build with Fearless and Steadfast, Tiger's Claw, Monstrous Blade and Bloodthirsty. I don't run an ult, but imo neither are great (Dragon's Leap would be better without the 2 sec charge).

Appreciate the comment Wolfie, nice stats btw - yeah not saying nodachi is useless, just that in comparison to the other classes, you will do better with any of them.

Only need to look at the toolkits of the other classes and compare to nodachi to see there is no comparison, currently.

It would be nice to balance the classes more and remove the skill cooldown bug from when you get hit - also if you only get staggered when hit from behind, instead of this unavoidable perma-stun meta and have negative/positive effects to wearing heavy/light armour.

Sadly, I cant see any of this changing - so my post was just to warn new players of the downfalls of picking nodachi.

I can definitely see that heading into the late-game with this class could really show its flaws, already I have to try extremely hard to have it work well for me. I'll have to cross that bridge when I come to it. I think with some well thought out changes this class could be amazing, I just hope they give it some attention.

Perhaps the Nodachi is given less love by the Chinese devs bc its of Japanese origin lmao