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Odzianna Jun 1, 2023 @ 5:37pm
About Rattan Marksmen
Since the Seasonal Seals are back in place I'm using them more often now. Question is: Flame or poison bolts? Does the poison work similar to that of the Vipers, with all the debuffs, or is that just a different source of damage over time?
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=(^ ^)= Jun 1, 2023 @ 5:47pm 
As far as I know poison works better on heroes, at the least the ones with heavy armor, and fire works good versus rattan units and cavalry.
Odzianna Jun 1, 2023 @ 5:54pm 
I know that Fire Archers shred pretty much everything without a shield, so it's difficult to tell which is better. Does the poison debuff? Does it stack? Does it have the same effects like that of the Vipers? Would be nice to test each option for a bit, but the reset scrolls are rather limited
Baron Jun 1, 2023 @ 6:52pm 
Fire does better against 3 star and below units because it is also a stun, but is worse against 4 and 5 star units because most of them are resistant to fire. Poison is more consistent. If you plan to continue using them after the seasonal seals lift, go poison. If you are just using them against other 3 star and below units, go fire.
Odzianna Jun 1, 2023 @ 7:00pm 
I do plan to keep using them. I don't have many Crossbows, so I can slap all my good Doctrines on them. I guess, I give poison a try then. Should keep Hero's from healing at least, so that is always nice
Raymond Jun 1, 2023 @ 7:33pm 
go fire, the cc is worth it.
=CBK= Zhuge Jun 3, 2023 @ 9:57pm 
Poison all the way.
Odzianna Jun 4, 2023 @ 12:01am 
By now I went with poison. But I would also really like to give fire a try at some point... Maybe if I can get some more reset scrolls.

Still can't tell if the poison has any special effects, though
=CBK= Zhuge Jun 4, 2023 @ 4:41am 
I assure you, Poison is the best no matter what, but you need to max their honor nodes, and put good doctrines on them, then you can melt any unit in this game easily. Shielders included. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2984812415
Odzianna Jun 4, 2023 @ 4:45am 
Huh. Didn't even know there is a Poison Doctrine! Mine have Doubleshot and 25% extra ammo, the rest of the Doctrines is unfortunately not all that good yet. It would definitely help if we could work our way towards certain Doctrines
ChaosKhan Jun 5, 2023 @ 8:59am 
Originally posted by Odzianna:
Since the Seasonal Seals are back in place I'm using them more often now. Question is: Flame or poison bolts? Does the poison work similar to that of the Vipers, with all the debuffs, or is that just a different source of damage over time?

As long as the seals are in place: definitely Flame.

T3 and lower units are massively susceptible to fire dmg. Poison is technically better against heroes, but the unit is weak against them no matter what you pick anyway. Better take fire and play to the units strenghts than trying to remedy a weakness you won't be able to cover anyway.
Odzianna Jun 5, 2023 @ 10:01am 
So far they bring pretty good results already, but I'm definitely giving fire a try as well. Since the Scrolls of Renewal reset weekly it is definitely worth a try. Also, I'm absolutely using them in peacemaking as well. There is something... simply satisfying about a hail of bolts just showering the enemy
=CBK= Zhuge Jun 5, 2023 @ 2:56pm 
Originally posted by Odzianna:
So far they bring pretty good results already, but I'm definitely giving fire a try as well. Since the Scrolls of Renewal reset weekly it is definitely worth a try. Also, I'm absolutely using them in peacemaking as well. There is something... simply satisfying about a hail of bolts just showering the enemy

Your game man, but listening and taking advice of others will also be an issue no matter what, make them provide evidence that its so good, lets see the stats of these dominate "fire breathing dwaguns" as you already know I can show mine and will to counter-act. :arkburguer::majinbuu::arkburguer:
Odzianna Jun 5, 2023 @ 3:06pm 
I think, you quoted the wrong person... :D
=CBK= Zhuge Jun 5, 2023 @ 3:41pm 
No I go the right one, as Fire is pretty worthless, if you wanted to use fire, just use Fire archers, or throw derpy fire doctrines on Bow cav. Rattans excel in murdering heroes and units alike with fast paced Poison damage that stacks and murders everything. Gonna set a hero on fire when he charges into them and literally one taps the entire group? Crap hes just gonna double tap and tuck-duck and roll put that fire out instantly. While if he tried that with poison, he might get a few he might not get any, cause normally they die before impact.
Odzianna Jun 5, 2023 @ 4:22pm 
But I haven't even tried fire yet and certainly won't claim that poison is better than fire, or vice versa before I have seen it myself
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