Is this game HEAVY pay to win or HEAVY pay to fast?

[Hyiugo]

from the trailer and gameplay i have seen it looks nice but i would like to know how much is P2W,or P2F.Is the difference between a player who plays without spending anything and a player who spends huge?

[Tsunami]

P2W stands for Pay to win, which means that they spend money to beat the game, and P2F is actually F2P and it stands for Free to Play, which means you don't spend money on the game at all.

[Mistik]

Totaly free to play. With real money with a lot of them actually u can just unlock something faster. If u miss skill though its waste of money

[Hyiugo]

Originally posted by Tsunami:

P2W stands for Pay to win, which means that they spend money to beat the game, and P2F is actually F2P and it stands for Free to Play, which means you don't spend money on the game at all.

You did not understand the concept of Pay To Win, especially on games of the genre, according to the genre each one has its pay to win, but in a different way.I have never played it now, but if I have to give you an example, a pay to win in this genre could be the weapons? The equipment? You pay for better equipment, compared to those who do not pay, this is what i mean.

[MrBillDeadGFL]

Nope, u can buy onli bost for exp, money and SKINS.

Nothing like beter equip and weapon. Like u say, onli P2Fast get units and make more
money, thats all.

3k hours in game.

[StoleMyCoconut]

Originally posted by Hyiugo:

Originally posted by Tsunami:

P2W stands for Pay to win, which means that they spend money to beat the game, and P2F is actually F2P and it stands for Free to Play, which means you don't spend money on the game at all.

You did not understand the concept of Pay To Win, especially on games of the genre, according to the genre each one has its pay to win, but in a different way.I have never played it now, but if I have to give you an example, a pay to win in this genre could be the weapons? The equipment? You pay for better equipment, compared to those who do not pay, this is what i mean.

It is pay to win in your example for 70 euros you can buy 3 units and all of those are overpowered. They are reducing the grind for the challenges every season but... To say that that is a good thing like lmao. In the previous ones challenges some of them are outright impossible to do and /or force you to troll your own team... Maybe just maybe uhhm. They should have never introduced challenges like that in the first place?...

Thing is OK they are improving that so that's great but units that were previously introduced still have those same challenges etc.

So that's a negative thing but on the bright side the gameplay is good.. Well that's another issue because its not. Seasonal units of the current season completely erase other units but.. Om well balance is subjective so that's well you can use unmeta units you just will not have a great time doing so.

And then one thing that is something you will notice ingame instantly server performance. It is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bad and even on top of that they downgraded the server lately. I had 13 ping before now 19 which is fine. BUT IT DOES NOT FEEL LIKE 20 PING AT ALL. LET ALONE RHAT MY PING IS NOT BAD PMAO THERE'S VIDEOS ON THE INTERNET OF NA PLAYERS HOLY CRAP PMAO if you want to have a good laugh check one out. It's unbelievable people kept playing that mess.

Anyways like I can tolerate 1 of those that's fine. But that's the thing it's just not one thing it's also not 2 it's 3 MAYOR problems that they refuse to solve. Aka do not get into this game rhe pay to win is the least of your problems lmao.

[Jima93]

U can spend as much as you want. But that do not make you a good player at all.
Even if you get a few OP units that are meta atm you can still miss use them and get them killed and u feel dumb and ripped off over that you spent money on em.

[=CBK= Zhuge]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2630864338

Of course its pay to win, people just want to make that seem that it isn't they will try to make the phrase to whatever they want it to mean, but in the end pay 2 win is buying items, "units" and other things which give advantage.

Don't let some of these guys shroud or cloud your vision. Watch how fast they attack me and try to force their opinions upon me. But they can't and won't ever change my mind.

[Hyiugo]

Originally posted by =CBK= Zhuge:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2630864338

Of course its pay to win, people just want to make that seem that it isn't they will try to make the phrase to whatever they want it to mean, but in the end pay 2 win is buying items, "units" and other things which give advantage.

Don't let some of these guys shroud or cloud your vision. Watch how fast they attack me and try to force their opinions upon me. But they can't and won't ever change my mind. :rip:

So are these bundles to have the troops already upgraded to the maximum? kind like that? i mean the bundle with soldier

[=CBK= Zhuge]

Originally posted by Hyiugo:

Originally posted by =CBK= Zhuge:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2630864338

Of course its pay to win, people just want to make that seem that it isn't they will try to make the phrase to whatever they want it to mean, but in the end pay 2 win is buying items, "units" and other things which give advantage.

Don't let some of these guys shroud or cloud your vision. Watch how fast they attack me and try to force their opinions upon me. But they can't and won't ever change my mind.

So are these bundles to have the troops already upgraded to the maximum? kind like that? i mean the bundle with soldier

You can buy the troops directly now days, with EXP tokens to upgrade them, then furthermore you can get treatsies and so on from the cashshop at times too.

Seasonal passes you can buy units from aswell.

[Hyiugo]

Originally posted by =CBK= Zhuge:

Originally posted by Hyiugo:

So are these bundles to have the troops already upgraded to the maximum? kind like that? i mean the bundle with soldier

You can buy the troops directly now days, with EXP tokens to upgrade them, then furthermore you can get treatsies and so on from the cashshop at times too.

Seasonal passes you can buy units from aswell.

Oh okok, are these troops you can have without paying? obviously i assume it takes longer

[=CBK= Zhuge]

Originally posted by Hyiugo:

Originally posted by =CBK= Zhuge:

You can buy the troops directly now days, with EXP tokens to upgrade them, then furthermore you can get treatsies and so on from the cashshop at times too.

Seasonal passes you can buy units from aswell.

Oh okok, are these troops you can have without paying? obviously i assume it takes longer

Yup much longer, or you can buy and skip everything, or pre-order and obtain them instantly.

[Star]

Originally posted by Hyiugo:

Originally posted by =CBK= Zhuge:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2630864338

Of course its pay to win, people just want to make that seem that it isn't they will try to make the phrase to whatever they want it to mean, but in the end pay 2 win is buying items, "units" and other things which give advantage.

Don't let some of these guys shroud or cloud your vision. Watch how fast they attack me and try to force their opinions upon me. But they can't and won't ever change my mind. :rip:

So are these bundles to have the troops already upgraded to the maximum? kind like that? i mean the bundle with soldier

i started a few months ago and i got preatty much 60% of all units and i spent very little on the game.

I can teach you few easy methods if you wanna learn how to get things the "best way" dont need to pay a dime.

the game is not pay to win. its pay to not wait.

[Chibs MG]

Originally posted by Hyiugo:

Originally posted by =CBK= Zhuge:

You can buy the troops directly now days, with EXP tokens to upgrade them, then furthermore you can get treatsies and so on from the cashshop at times too.

Seasonal passes you can buy units from aswell.

Oh okok, are these troops you can have without paying? obviously i assume it takes longer

You can get the seasonal units via pre-order and you can get them faster if you spend Sovereigns. However you can get every unit without spending money. Spening money is just for convenience to get you there faster.

[=CBK= Zhuge]

You can try to sugar coat the word as much as you want, but pay 2 win, is still pay 2 win.

Not to mention the cash shop items you buy, or say pre-order items and randomly disappear and still no word on that fix.

I also still remember years ago when they stated they wouldn't do things like these and actually keep it free to play, funny how you guys adopted season/battle and pre-order units now to milk that extra money.

Want some more EXP? throw a little money.
Want them units? throw alot of money.
Want some extra siege? throw some money.
Want anything in this game? throw some money.
*Edit forgot*
Want one of the new classes? throw alot of money.

Okies, your opinions matter to you and a few others, I get it. But don't make the phrase something its not when you can pay for nearly everything on this game.

[Jima93]

Originally posted by =CBK= Zhuge:

You can try to sugar coat the word as much as you want, but pay 2 win, is still pay 2 win.

Not to mention the cash shop items you buy, or say pre-order items and randomly disappear and still no word on that fix.

I also still remember years ago when they stated they wouldn't do things like these and actually keep it free to play, funny how you guys adopted season/battle and pre-order units now to milk that extra money.

Want some more EXP? throw a little money.
Want them units? throw alot of money.
Want some extra siege? throw some money.
Want anything in this game? throw some money.
*Edit forgot*
Want one of the new classes? throw alot of money.

Okies, your opinions matter to you and a few others, I get it. But don't make the phrase something its not when you can pay for nearly everything on this game.

And u can keep saying the same thing over and over and it dont change the fact that you can spend a fortune and still be absolutly ♥♥♥♥ at the game