Are all Veteran Players A Holes in Expedition?

[-Kraken-]

Everytime I meet Veteran players they seem to be complete A Holes disregarding any consideration for any other players. I ask to distribute the unit kills amongst the group, instead they instantly get hostile, uncooperative, and just take 250+ units with complete intention to hinder team exp gains.
The best part is they act all high and mighty, because they spent 500+ hours on this game and have keshegs and other golden units. Telling me that I have trash tier calvary and its my fault for not taking all the unit kills.
I am always trying to distribute the unit kills as best as possible, but Veteran players are making Expedition extremely frustrating.

[Death Korps of Krieg]

Teamsports in gaming often isn't about ones own performance, but more about your "FLAMING" ability to flame your own team-members that their doing a worse job than you, and that its all their fault.

[Aelynthi]

I always spam exp 3 with a pre-made group. So much easier and more relaxing.

[Shortpower]

I suggest premades, but I found as a new player if I asked nicely they'd hit xp cap and then go away.

[Colonel]

Its the game design faults. It would be better if everyone would get the same amount of xp.

[Sader]

Maximum XP is 280 units.

You need to do minimum 15+ Hours straight of expeditions (It can take longer depending on varying factors) to max a unit with no XP boosts.

In order to level my units I use Monastic Knights/Kheshigs (Dependant on map to and likelyhood of fire arrows), a loss of a unit or two can cost me upwards 10k a round if I play the map incorrectly.

When chaining expeditions for 15 hours or more, anything that slows you down can add hours of time to your leveling, this includes losing units, or not getting over 200 kills (or 280 if you're going for maximum XP)

What does this all mean?

Simple. I'm there to get my XP and get out, I will do what I need to do to max out my units to get out of expeditions as quickly as possible. I don't care if the expedition passes or fails, all I care about is getting 280 unit kills, and moving to the next expedition as fast as possible. If I sit there worrying about you (or anyone else) in EVERY SINGLE expedition it could add HOURS to the already tedious slog of leveling golden era units.

Source:
I have leveled every single gold cav, reapers, and pavise crosswbowman to level 30.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-IIDjZXGX0&ab_channel=Sader

[-Kraken-]

Originally posted by Sader:

Maximum XP is 280 units.

You need to do minimum 15+ Hours straight of expeditions (It can take longer depending on varying factors) to max a unit with no XP boosts.

In order to level my units I use Monastic Knights/Kheshigs (Dependant on map to and likelyhood of fire arrows), a loss of a unit or two can cost me upwards 10k a round if I play the map incorrectly.

When chaining expeditions for 15 hours or more, anything that slows you down can add hours of time to your leveling, this includes losing units, or not getting over 200 kills (or 280 if you're going for maximum XP)

What does this all mean?

Simple. I'm there to get my XP and get out, I will do what I need to do to max out my units to get out of expeditions as quickly as possible. I don't care if the expedition passes or fails, all I care about is getting 280 unit kills, and moving to the next expedition as fast as possible. If I sit there worrying about you (or anyone else) in EVERY SINGLE expedition it could add HOURS to the already tedious slog of leveling golden era units.

Source:
I have leveled every single gold cav, reapers, and pavise crosswbowman to level 30.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-IIDjZXGX0&ab_channel=Sader

How about if the other players do not hinder the time it takes to finish the match, but you still thirst with Keshegs and steal their kills? I feel like that is an extremely seflish and socialpathic mindset to have. It only breeds competition amongst team mates and will make it more difficult for anybody to level up their units.

[StoleMyCoconut]

Originally posted by -Kraken-:

Originally posted by Sader:

Maximum XP is 280 units.

You need to do minimum 15+ Hours straight of expeditions (It can take longer depending on varying factors) to max a unit with no XP boosts.

In order to level my units I use Monastic Knights/Kheshigs (Dependant on map to and likelyhood of fire arrows), a loss of a unit or two can cost me upwards 10k a round if I play the map incorrectly.

When chaining expeditions for 15 hours or more, anything that slows you down can add hours of time to your leveling, this includes losing units, or not getting over 200 kills (or 280 if you're going for maximum XP)

What does this all mean?

Simple. I'm there to get my XP and get out, I will do what I need to do to max out my units to get out of expeditions as quickly as possible. I don't care if the expedition passes or fails, all I care about is getting 280 unit kills, and moving to the next expedition as fast as possible. If I sit there worrying about you (or anyone else) in EVERY SINGLE expedition it could add HOURS to the already tedious slog of leveling golden era units.

Source:
I have leveled every single gold cav, reapers, and pavise crosswbowman to level 30.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-IIDjZXGX0&ab_channel=Sader

How about if the other players do not hinder the time it takes to finish the match, but you still thirst with Keshegs and steal their kills? I feel like that is an extremely seflish and socialpathic mindset to have. It only breeds competition amongst team mates and will make it more difficult for anybody to level up their units.

Dont blame the players blame the developers. Just like another guy said the system is flawed. It doesn't reward teamplay only individual play

I had a housemember of mine afking in expeditions. And one guy decided to message me about it and here it comes man. I defended the dude as there is no point playing expeditions (even I went afk during expeditions because i wouldn't kill any enemies anyway since I didn't have cavalry yet) the experience has been so horrible I defend peolle for bad bahavoir because the system is just that bad.

And the dude then told 'me that there's many more enemies spawning from all sides so it wasn't an issue anymore.... Well that till I actually played it as it was just the same experience as before nothing changed.

The dude wasn't actually afk but he has a really bad connection so it looks like that. But I did defend him :P the guy who I told about it wasn't happy with it so he made a post about it in reddit blaming the dude but with my private messages as main picture XD.

Thag got solved though but the person I spoke to that the developers improved it but no he'll no they didn't. Play expeditions hoe you want basically if it becomes a problem the developers have to look into it. Or don't play it. I never play expeditions anymore only if it is an event.

Sader is definitely right, this is how your supposed to play expeditions. Does it suck for the rest of the players? Yes it does. But that's not his problem to solve that's the developers problem to solve.. Just play the game mode your way and as I said you can do whatever even playing other games lol.

[-Kraken-]

Originally posted by StoleMyCoconut:

Originally posted by -Kraken-:

How about if the other players do not hinder the time it takes to finish the match, but you still thirst with Keshegs and steal their kills? I feel like that is an extremely seflish and socialpathic mindset to have. It only breeds competition amongst team mates and will make it more difficult for anybody to level up their units.

Dont blame the players blame the developers. Just like another guy said the system is flawed. It doesn't reward teamplay only individual play

I had a housemember of mine afking in expeditions. And one guy decided to message me about it and here it comes man. I defended the dude as there is no point playing expeditions (even I went afk during expeditions because i wouldn't kill any enemies anyway since I didn't have cavalry yet) the experience has been so horrible I defend peolle for bad bahavoir because the system is just that bad.

And the dude then told 'me that there's many more enemies spawning from all sides so it wasn't an issue anymore.... Well that till I actually played it as it was just the same experience as before nothing changed.

The dude wasn't actually afk but he has a really bad connection so it looks like that. But I did defend him :P the guy who I told about it wasn't happy with it so he made a post about it in reddit blaming the dude but with my private messages as main picture XD.

Thag got solved though but the person I spoke to that the developers improved it but no he'll no they didn't. Play expeditions hoe you want basically if it becomes a problem the developers have to look into it. Or don't play it. I never play expeditions anymore only if it is an event.

Sader is definitely right, this is how your supposed to play expeditions. Does it suck for the rest of the players? Yes it does. But that's not his problem to solve that's the developers problem to solve.. Just play the game mode your way and as I said you can do whatever even playing other games lol.

I completely understand that the game needs work and the Devs really should rebalance the experience gained from EXPI. However, it still does not justify being this selfish, because we are stuck with this unit kill exp crap right now. I understand trying to rationalize thirsting through shifting the blame, but the blame still falls on the players.
I would also argue if any of these players who have played since launch were to fill into new player's shoes they would also want other players to share unit kills. However, since they already have all the best units, they become narrow minded and believe that they deserve all the unit kills and if the new players do not get any, if is their own fault.