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skullhunter 2020 年 2 月 7 日 上午 1:03
No such thing as Anti Cavalry units in this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ balance
Typical "made in china" quality balance, the person/team behind such moronic design decision wins the ultimate low IQ of the millennium.
any team with 3-4 T5 cavalries((Haurrsa & masonic knight, and ranger) dominates any field battle and TW, This is not an argument but a solid fact
There's no anti cavalry units in game whatsoever, pike men only able to stop them only when you met someone who's dumb enough to charge you head on when you are in spear formation(meaning 1% chance it will happen)

Meanwhile all T4 & T5 infantries are utterly worthless and utterly expensive. Reaper used to be the only anti cavalry unit until this donkey team decide to nerf it to hell. T4-5 infantries' doneky quality animation and pathetic slow speed made all of them vastly inferior to T2, T3 and T3.5 armies.

Palace's guard's charge as fast as grandmas sitting on wheel chair in x0.3 slow mo, not only is hilariously worthless, they never gonna success on anyone who can move.

So what's the point to lvl troop to tier 4 -5 and use more leadership when they are uttlery good for nothing and consist 1/3 of the roaster?

最后由 skullhunter 编辑于; 2020 年 2 月 7 日 上午 1:06
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RudeDawg 2020 年 2 月 7 日 上午 1:20 
Would have been nice if at least one of the Season 2 Calv would have been anti calv -seeing as how both the T4 Calv and the T5 Calv have their issues.

I am hoping they get their shi^ together in Season 3.
Colonel 2020 年 2 月 7 日 上午 1:37 
I wish the T 0.5, T2 Rattan, premium and T3 pikes would have brace.
skullhunter 2020 年 2 月 7 日 上午 1:55 
引用自 Colonel
I wish the T 0.5, T2 Rattan, premium and T3 pikes would have brace.


lol!! T2 and T3?
T4 palace pike guard(if not in pike formation) halberd sergeant, spear sergeant and palace sheild guards will get wipped within one charge (300% more dmg if close to max out)
Flippy 2020 年 2 月 7 日 上午 2:33 
Every online game constantly has balance complaints. It could be worse. I look forward to balance tuning though because it does need some.
Melchor 2020 年 2 月 7 日 下午 4:27 
引用自 Colonel
I wish the T 0.5, T2 Rattan, premium and T3 pikes would have brace.


lol!! T2 and T3?
T4 palace pike guard(if not in pike formation) halberd sergeant, spear sergeant and palace sheild guards will get wipped within one charge (300% more dmg if close to max out)

arent imperial spear guards a decent counter to that?

they can move forward while bracing, and they can stagger cavalry that charges into it.

i havent tried it myself yet, but today ive seen a unit of them wipe the floor with multiple charging cavalry units.

otherwise i guess the games balance is just like real life. there was very little that could ever withstand a heavy cavalry charge.
Wololo 2020 年 2 月 7 日 下午 6:28 
引用自 Melchor


lol!! T2 and T3?
T4 palace pike guard(if not in pike formation) halberd sergeant, spear sergeant and palace sheild guards will get wipped within one charge (300% more dmg if close to max out)

arent imperial spear guards a decent counter to that?

they can move forward while bracing, and they can stagger cavalry that charges into it.

i havent tried it myself yet, but today ive seen a unit of them wipe the floor with multiple charging cavalry units.

otherwise i guess the games balance is just like real life. there was very little that could ever withstand a heavy cavalry charge.

Exept when a pike unit is advancing.. That is the most op skill of them all. Pretty much invincible, inevitable, continuosly and highly damaging stunlock.
Flippy 2020 年 2 月 7 日 下午 7:44 
The servers are messing up damage and stuns all the time with all the lag switching going on. Balance isnt as bad as it seems. Gameplay is a mess though.
最后由 Flippy 编辑于; 2020 年 2 月 7 日 下午 7:45
joe 2020 年 2 月 8 日 上午 6:01 
Imp pike march stops ALL in game.

Musket units devastate cav when placed strategically,

Spear Sargent stop all t4 and below cav by themselves.

Porcupines, a sheild circle and a pike circle in same spot, stop most charges. You need to do this as a team.

Hero’s, musket, ss, ls, bow, can all disrupt charges, musket being best. Cav that are not charging are vulnerable.

Make porcupines that are not in open pathways. Don’t create opportunities for cav charges. Then occupy the formation with your hero. Disrupt incoming charges. Charge cav right after charge.

Rattan power rangers are a different animal. You need to range them, fire archers and muskets destroy them. Charge fast troops into them and tie them up, they die easily. Use siege on them.

Remember the dangerous units are 350 leadership. Kill them and you took half of the opponents troops.
skullhunter 2020 年 2 月 8 日 上午 11:08 
引用自 Melchor


lol!! T2 and T3?
T4 palace pike guard(if not in pike formation) halberd sergeant, spear sergeant and palace sheild guards will get wipped within one charge (300% more dmg if close to max out)

arent imperial spear guards a decent counter to that?

they can move forward while bracing, and they can stagger cavalry that charges into it.

i havent tried it myself yet, but today ive seen a unit of them wipe the floor with multiple charging cavalry units.

otherwise i guess the games balance is just like real life. there was very little that could ever withstand a heavy cavalry charge.


As said in my last post, anyone who played this game long enough know this, imperial pike man only able to stop T5 cavalries in spear formation or brace, that only happens when you met someone who's dumb enough to charge at you head on. when you got caught in travel or charged from the side or rear, half of them get wiped on first charge.

You only see scenario like that in seige’s front gate guarding, but in a big Field battle or TW map, imperial pike guard & other T4&5 infantries are utterly useless. Especially if you encountered any of these T5 cavalries
最后由 skullhunter 编辑于; 2020 年 2 月 8 日 下午 9:47
Flippy 2020 年 2 月 8 日 上午 11:37 
引用自 Melchor

arent imperial spear guards a decent counter to that?

they can move forward while bracing, and they can stagger cavalry that charges into it.

i havent tried it myself yet, but today ive seen a unit of them wipe the floor with multiple charging cavalry units.

otherwise i guess the games balance is just like real life. there was very little that could ever withstand a heavy cavalry charge.


As said in my last post, anyone play this game long enough all know this, imperial pike man only able to stop T5 cavalries in spear formation or brace, that only happens when you met someone who's dumb enough to charge at you head on. when you got caught in travel or charged from the side or rear, half of them get wiped on first charge.

You only see scenario like that in seige’s front gate guarding, but in a big Field battle or TW map, imperial pike guard & other T4&5 infantries are utterly useless. Especially if you encountered any of these T5 cavalries

Guys are able to move that pike formation around super fast though.
Lulzer 2020 年 2 月 8 日 下午 1:13 
As a returning player, I need to say this is quiet sad to see. The open pvp and contested and a nice idea, and the idea with legions too. It was very unbalanced thats why I quit , the matchmaking failed. But what I am seeing now is actually far far worse, still in those times I never had the feeling I stop absolutely no chance whatsoever of doing any damage , the other player would often still lose a few troops not many but at least I had the option to inflict some damage to the other player and even if it was not enough for me a was still hopefull they would more properly balance the game in the future. Now I get charged and in two second I am lost and my whole squad is lost. I dont even know when I die, and forget muskets,spears or anything that could stand against this massive charge.
Like someone mentioned that if you have some very high level spears they might be able to inflict some kind of damage, but is it really even worth it. Right now everybody will be rolling full chav charge and end of battle. After all I would rather be on even terms with other players then taking some kind of chance of maybe sometime if I would become a master pikemen I could maybe cause some damage sometimes.
Have you seen worse? How can it get worse? The direction I have seen today where all exactly the same , everyone full horse. even sally out.
I would swap my whole army for 1 of those units so only 350 points thats very cheap, the right charage can outright be devistateing and a bad charge is really good at worst.
And Joe , you seem to know you stuff like a really pro, why not record some footage of what you are saying to back it up? I would also like to learn to use those units like you but you know seems I dont even come close.
joe 2020 年 2 月 8 日 下午 1:28 
Go to Reddit. Tons of videos there. How to and tw footage of actual flights. Game is not unbalanced anymore in my opinion.
Lulzer 2020 年 2 月 8 日 下午 1:31 
Ohhh Sorry , cant you post a link please? I really suck at redit.
Sure it migh be, maybe I just need to learn to play if thats what I need.
Lulzer 2020 年 2 月 8 日 下午 1:39 
Ohhh Sorry no neeed to send me anything anymore. I checked your other threads and they where how to say this.....Very productive? I see now I should not have responded to your awsome insight into woodcutter lvl 25 vs cav tactics.

In anycase if someone ELSE has any advice thats actually worth a tought please share.
Vio 2020 年 2 月 8 日 下午 1:59 
You want op anti all units? build Imperial pike guards and u will anti cav and everything :)

Note: even Iron reapers elite wont stand a chance against them, just use advance on them :)
最后由 Vio 编辑于; 2020 年 2 月 8 日 下午 2:00
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