The unbalanced classes of the longsword and shortsword.

[connor]

Both of these classes are completely overpowered. As soon as somebody gets epic tier armour and puts all their points into toughness it takes atleast 3 people to deal with them and they will still have a decent chance of winning.

The class has huge damage and tank capabilities simple because of the equipment being heavy armour, whilst the base stats on the swords are really high. It's gotten to a point where a backstab does around a 20th of their total HP.

Both classes have an insane amount of CC, PVP, PVE and sustain capabilities. There is no counter play to these classes. The Longsword having a 15second cool down for a 10 second passive heal is extremely powerful.

TL:DR - Tank meta is extremely boring and annoying to play against. People like to play DPS but it's useless due to tank meta.

[Samantha Raven]

Longsword and shield is not a over powered class there role is a tank to push lines they do not do alot of damage at all maybe there ultimate ability chain but its got like 60 sec cooldown.

Longsword and shield relies heavly on there defence with out it they be useless specialy with out there healing ability they relay on using units and them selfs to push lines but there useless agenst muskets units and other player classes people pointed out like speers and stuff can easly beat a long sword and shield if u compair the gear was same quality and both players where about same skill level.

Longsword and shield has limited attack range you oftin will see most oftin when they attack they have to use there sprint at u with shift and then attack spam at u just to kill another player hoping to stagger them to death cause they have no range in there attacks and its super easy for other players to avoid longsword and shield attacks so in my book there very much balanced there talent is when they fight with troops and allie players cause they can take damage while other players can deal damage while the longsword and shield player basicly if done right aborbs the attacks and supports the dps melee classes around them fighting.

But longsword and shield class the only thing they need to balance isnt the class it self but the level 30 purple gear set bonus thats it one of the level 30 purple gear is op cause it can turn the longsword and shield healing skill where the instant healing from 10% becomes 50% and then with the 36% health over 12 secs seems little unbalance.

But if they fix the level 30 purple gear set bonuses for the longsword and shield exclusive armor it probble balance class but the class it self i feel it does as intended and fits the class and isnt unbalance compair to most classes.
I just feel most classes other then longsword and shield just need more work to make them stand out in a role and what they do i think thats the real probble and balance issue most classes specialy weaker ones are a mess in there skills and seem like there trying to do two diffrent things with them and it causes them to be broken.

[Nosferatu]

I think balance in this game pretty fine exept , some classes have many stuns and characters getting staggered from everything. Imo game is fine even like this tho.
Stop complaining about what you cant beat for once people...

[saliddry]

Originally posted by Flippy:

The class that seems most over powered is the spear right now.

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didnt read more your an total moron ..

its a rarity when i see an spear to be unde the top 5 since the nerf
to be correct i only rarly see an spear in my matches at all....


60% LONGSWORD some ranged players but spear is as rare as polearm now


and this s.... realy says spear is still overpowered....

if at all it needs to be buffed again its an total joke to fight other players with spear look at that lousy damage numbers..... everything with a little armor is immun to spear

even units aboute 2 stars like the 2nd spear infantry has enough armor that you just scrath them even from behind


WEAPON % used says whats OP and whats underwhelming ..and the underwhelming part is definalty spear and polearm atm


every idiot is respeacing to longsword shield.... surly not cause they like to suck

[Brother Frank]

Originally posted by glaphen:

Spears are still OP, don't defend OP class just because you use it, it is still one of the most popular weapons and I see more than 3 every game.

Spear is definitely still good yeah, just not faceroll brainless monkey levels of easy like it used to be. Definitely not OP, but it is very good. The only "broken" part of its kit is the spear kick and the ult (but every class has OP ults except for dachi so....)

[CainII]

Raise their cool downs.

[Kanjejou]

long sword need a glitch purge so its stop doing laser guided dash attack with almost no attack preparation frames, and make the block reliable vs common attacks ranged will hit head and feet and thus can't be blocked, dash attack often hit head and thus can't be reliably blocked without putting the camera in the ground

Short sword on the other side need a damage nerf or a CD nerf, having an unpurgeable dash CC damage dealign ability with a 15 sec CD that is a ultimate for other classes...85% damage reduction. shield throw that slow ennemies and buff speed and pierce units (allowing to rape ranged pike and shielwall.

short sword are one and only hero weapon that can frontaly charge musket spam and kill them and escape with a good chunk of health.

[Krumkai]

Long sword has to be nerfed.

[Kanjejou]

Originally posted by Reigen:

Long sword has to be nerfed.

and in which way? remove/reduce the heal and it will be useless in team and solo. the only part i woudl be okay for the heal nerf would be to make it slower. like 1.5% on 20 sec with 20 sec cooldown woudl make a great long term heal but not make you able to tank frotnaly

[seeter]

Originally posted by Flippy:

The class that seems most over powered is the spear right now. It may get another nerf soon because the match stats are showing this, it isnt opinion. Dual blades special may be over powered a bit still to.

Some troops like spears are broken and insta kill heros in yet another problem, even when not charging.

Fighting short and long sword often they are both tough but not over powered in 1 v 1.

Someone said one of the troop buffs may be getting nerfed soon and maybe one of the knockdowns for short sword but i dont know details.

What players on the forum got to see is that sometimes damage is messed up. This makes all sorts of things look bad that are not.

some troops are already dead and still manage to do dmg

[Kanjejou]

or taking all the damages that were put on you in a single block instead of progressively. Making it impossible for you to retreat

[Qtyx]

All mad because your trying to 1v1 a tank class....

[Krumkai]

Originally posted by Qtyx:

All mad because your trying to 1v1 a tank class....

Even with full armor build the longsword has tons of damage.

[Kanjejou]

Originally posted by Qtyx:

All mad because your trying to 1v1 a tank class....

Well to be fair once the bugs get ironed out longword will be less annoying, but shortsword truly are cancer.

Unfortunately because fo the state of the game , short+longsword spam is extremely common in EU West(my last 20 games were 10 sword in each team, no nodachi no poleaxe except me no guandao 1-2 spear and the rest rifle+bow) and there not much counter for a full sword tank train, except siege gun spam.

[Krumkai]

I am not sure about the shortsword but the longsword is GOD MODE.
They can guard all damage and do damage at same time while they are immune to CC...

Oh and also there movement speed while they are in block is same as the normal movement speed. Basically they can rotate around you, pocking you and you can't even hit them once. Its just super retarded.

[connor]

Originally posted by Qtyx:

All mad because your trying to 1v1 a tank class....

It shouldn't be a team effort to kill a single character. Normally a high levelled longsword would take at least three people to efficiently kill, leaving openings for friendly troops and friendly players to be killed. It's too much of a game breaker.