After watching this it's confirmed

[scan_free]

Maple is my LEAST favorite Neko! I'd like to just drop kick her right in her stuck up ass! :D

[fllthdcrb]

That seems unnecessarily hateful. She acts superior, yeah, but at least she isn't mean or anything. In fact, she seems approachable enough. Not my favorite, though.

[Broseph884]

you. take. that. back.

[Code x70]

Originally posted by scan_free:

Maple is my LEAST favorite Neko!

Agree

[scan_free]

Originally posted by fllthdcrb:

That seems unnecessarily hateful. She acts superior, yeah, but at least she isn't mean or anything. In fact, she seems approachable enough. Not my favorite, though.

I dunno but every time there was a scene with her in it I want to shout "Jesus what is your problem?" LOL I started thinking about Vol. 3 and remembered what a downer it was until the end ; )

[ferrelas]

She still way better than Azuki. She's just a major ♥♥♥♥♥ for no reason, and it's ahrdly even used for gap moe. I mean, what?

[scan_free]

Originally posted by ferrelas:

She still way better than Azuki. She's just a major ♥♥♥♥♥ for no reason, and it's ahrdly even used for gap moe. I mean, what?

Actually Azuki never bothered me at all. Even though she was bossy I always felt like she didn't really mean it. Maple on the other hand just acts like her litter box doesn't stink! Maybe I just don't understand the character or maybe there's something in Japanese culture that I'm missing.

[Iron Monkey]

Well Maple is American (or at least breed), Usually I see VN/Anime make the American or half American characters with this type of personality. I personally like these characters myself since they usually end up being really nice/sweet in the end and just put on that act for whatever reason.

[|NDW|[-NaAaF-]]

In most VNs characters with roots in western europe or the US are displayed in very specific ways and their personalities are rarely more than the writers favourite mix of negative cliches. Germans are stuck-up and humour-less, french are horny and lazy, britts are rude drunkards and americans are by default arrogant and selfrighteous. Some get the tsundere and gap moe treatment later in the plot but most are just there to make the japanese cast look more reasonable and the readers feel better about themselves.
After all every one who's read a single vn knows that working your butt off for the sake of society and spinelessly bowing down before any kind of authority is the only proper way to live, right? So you gotta call out the baddies^^.
They don't call Maple "Miss American Curl" for no reason and of course the murica breed cat girl is the one selfishly following her dream while the others cover for her. ^^
Maple is the arrogant blond prancing around like a spoiled princess, because merica, so naturally they spent pretty much a hole volume on Natsuki, the only cat girl with a japanese name, showing what a responsible, hard working, caring and loving onee-chan is hiding behind that girls mask...
And it actually kinda works, Natsuki is my #2 right after Vanilla.
But I can't really dislike Maple, she's just the victim of her silly writers trying to please their propaganda and censorship overlords. Take away the unnecessary clichee bits and she's just as loveable.

[fllthdcrb]

I'm with you for the most part. Just a couple of little things.

Originally posted by |NDW|-NaAaF-:

Natsuki

You mean Azuki, right? (Hint for remembering the catgirls' names: they're all the names of confection ingredients. Azuki are sweet red beans.)

trying to please their propaganda and censorship overlords

Not sure what you mean by this. Isn't it just a cultural stereotype that they like to use for entertainment? I don't think anyone is dictating to the writers that they should use them, unless it's perhaps the fans. Do fans count as overlords? 😁

[|NDW|[-NaAaF-]]

Originally posted by fllthdcrb:

I'm with you for the most part. Just a couple of little things.

Originally posted by |NDW|-NaAaF-:

Natsuki

You mean Azuki, right? (Hint for remembering the catgirls' names: they're all the names of confection ingredients. Azuki are sweet red beans.)

trying to please their propaganda and censorship overlords

Not sure what you mean by this. Isn't it just a cultural stereotype that they like to use for entertainment? I don't think anyone is dictating to the writers that they should use them, unless it's perhaps the fans. Do fans count as overlords? 😁

Yes, Azuki. Guess I mixed up my VNs there^^.

Well, maybe I went a bit far there, ... but I do think that a lot of opinions, cultural viewpoints and even political agendas are hidden behind the casual and seemingly humorous use of these stereotypes. And Japan is quite diverse in many regards. Some enjoy exchanges with foreigners and welcome western influences while others hate everything not 110% japanese. On one end of Tokyo a progressive politician is pushing for equal rights for same-sex couples while on another ppl are screaming bloody murder because a hetero couple dared to hold hands in public.

Everything that strays from proven patterns could backfire horribly, no one is willing to take the risk and so the same old stereotypes get used again and again and again. Even if it's indirect and kind of self inflicted, but isn't that some kind of cencorship as well?

Ok, it's getting a bit esoteric now and actually goes way beyond the thought behind the original statement. Was there even a thought? Maybe I just enjoyed the sound of my typing^^. I don't know.

But now that I think about it: Fans in japan are probably THE overlords.
Otherwise we wouldn't get tortured with that many harem settings and open ended stories.
Just imagine the outcry of 20y/o virgins had they made Nanoha and Fate an official couple and not besties who've shared a bed since they were teens. Suicides, burning piles of merch in every street...^^ They're a strange ppl.

[Tyrone Biggums]

Originally posted by scan_free:

Maple is my LEAST favorite Neko! I'd like to just drop kick her right in her stuck up♥♥♥♥♥ :D

dont bully maple ...also when do we feck the little sister

[scan_free]

Originally posted by Leonmitchelli:

Originally posted by scan_free:

Maple is my LEAST favorite Neko! I'd like to just drop kick her right in her stuck up♥♥♥♥♥ :D

dont bully maple ...also when do we feck the little sister

No sister flucking! No! Just no!

[Kumiho]

thats how i feel about azuki.. but it goes without saying that i hate shigure too

[龙倆 编年史]

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[HummingBeard]

i recommend Therapy my guy. if you can't take sass from a pixel based character, then you shouldnt play games that involve such things to begin with.


but yes, Maple is a stuck up little ♥♥♥♥ at times. so glad i ♥♥♥♥♥♥ her into submission in the 3rd and 4th games.