Gary Grigsby's World at War vs. Axis & Allies Online

[El Guapo]

Straight forward question: I already own "GG World at War: A World Divided" with HD mod and so forth.
Used to be an Axis & Allies fan 20 years ago, so I only vaguely remember it to be a more casual version of Gary Grigsby, but still very enjoyable.

Anyone here who owns both games?
I guess a deciding factor will be how well-coded the new Axis & Allies game is, or if it's just a lazy money-grab.

[simon_hibbs]

I'd say they're certainly in the same genre. If you like one there's a decent chance you'll enjoy the other. This is based on a revised edition of the 1984 A&A board game brought out in 2012, and while there are other versions the 2012 edition is considered the flagship version. If you enjoyed it back in the day, I don't see why you wouldn't love this edition, IMHO the computer version is extremely well done.

[El Guapo]

Thanks for the helpful reply! Then I guess, I gotta dive deeper into the subject. YouTube binging upcoming :D

[Lissa]

Played both. Just like original A&A it is a relatively simple strategic game which can be played relatively quickly (depending on the people playing of course). This is a sound game, well worth the price (especially the 50% sale). They are of the same genre, but different levels of immersion. As simon said, if you liked one and are not looking for the exact same play experience you will like this one.

[Ris Dnalor]

Originally posted by El Guapo:

Straight forward question: I already own "GG World at War: A World Divided" with HD mod and so forth.
Used to be an Axis & Allies fan 20 years ago, so I only vaguely remember it to be a more casual version of Gary Grigsby, but still very enjoyable.

Anyone here who owns both games?
I guess a deciding factor will be how well-coded the new Axis & Allies game is, or if it's just a lazy money-grab.

One aspect in this online version of A&A is the ranked ladder system. It has seasons, that seem to last around 6 months. In each season players are assigned a score, something similar to an ELO system used by the Chess Federation.

We don't see that score, but we are separated into groups based on those scores, and each group has a ladder ranking, and we see our position on those ladders. As your score improves, you will actively move into different groups as the season progresses.

The end result is that as you improve, your score goes up, so when playing ranked games, you are matched with players of a skill level that most of the time you will find challenging, but not overwhelmingly difficult ( or easy ).

Also, since losing a ranked game affects your play, people are less likely to just drop out of a game at the first sign of bad luck. They're more willing to try to make a game of it.

And finally, the fact that the game is well designed, and allows for you to make yoruself notes inside each game, makes it much easier to play multiple games. It's easy enough to have 20 games active at a given time, provided you have enough personal time available to play through them all. The minimum for each game is that you take 1 turn within 24 hours of when your opponent completed their last turn. USA & Russia are considered together as a single turn for expediency, and to prevent possible 'stalling'.

Anyways, for the price, I heavily recommend it.

[Father of WAR]

agreed

[El Guapo]

Never play online, only interested in single player against a.i., I'm too old to change :D
I'm currently watching some YouTube videos to see if A&A offers anything that would make it interesting compared with Gary Grigsby.
It's definitely a light light version of World at War which is not necessarily a bad thing for a quick round here and there.

I wish it had a 1939 scenario by now. Like the clean GUI though, no clutter.

[Ris Dnalor]

Originally posted by El Guapo:

Never play online, only interested in single player against a.i., I'm too old to change :D
I'm currently watching some YouTube videos to see if A&A offers anything that would make it interesting compared with Gary Grigsby.
It's definitely a light light version of World at War which is not necessarily a bad thing for a quick round here and there.

I wish it had a 1939 scenario by now. Like the clean GUI though, no clutter.

You'll grow bored with the Ai quickly. It's only designed to help teach people to play.

There's no built in chat for the online games, so you could pretend they were AI's :) Who knows, maybe a few of the players actually are AI's learning their way through the internet...

[El Guapo]

Originally posted by Ris Dnalor:

Originally posted by El Guapo:

Never play online, only interested in single player against a.i., I'm too old to change :D
I'm currently watching some YouTube videos to see if A&A offers anything that would make it interesting compared with Gary Grigsby.
It's definitely a light light version of World at War which is not necessarily a bad thing for a quick round here and there.

I wish it had a 1939 scenario by now. Like the clean GUI though, no clutter.

You'll grow bored with the Ai quickly. It's only designed to help teach people to play.

There's no built in chat for the online games, so you could pretend they were AI's :) Who knows, maybe a few of the players actually are AI's learning their way through the internet...

Well, for me the only point would be to have a more casual version of the similar Gary Grigsby game. But in MP one game would take much longer than the more complex World at War.
I guess, I'll pass then if the a.i. is not challenging.

[Tomaster]

Originally posted by El Guapo:

Originally posted by Ris Dnalor:

You'll grow bored with the Ai quickly. It's only designed to help teach people to play.

There's no built in chat for the online games, so you could pretend they were AI's :) Who knows, maybe a few of the players actually are AI's learning their way through the internet...

Well, for me the only point would be to have a more casual version of the similar Gary Grigsby game. But in MP one game would take much longer than the more complex World at War.
I guess, I'll pass then if the a.i. is not challenging.

It's short money, and provides hours of entertainment. I wouldn't pass on it for those reasons alone. The ai will keep you busy for a while, and who knows, you may try an online game and love it. I am not a gamer. I've literally played 2 games on steam, and this was the first game I've played online. The developers are really involved. I suggest you give it a shot...just my 2 cents

[El Guapo]

Originally posted by Tomaster:

Originally posted by El Guapo:

Well, for me the only point would be to have a more casual version of the similar Gary Grigsby game. But in MP one game would take much longer than the more complex World at War.
I guess, I'll pass then if the a.i. is not challenging.

It's short money, and provides hours of entertainment. I wouldn't pass on it for those reasons alone. The ai will keep you busy for a while, and who knows, you may try an online game and love it. I am not a gamer. I've literally played 2 games on steam, and this was the first game I've played online. The developers are really involved. I suggest you give it a shot...just my 2 cents

Funny thing just happened. I realized that I cannot wait until September 27th for the new HoI4 expansion. So I remembered this discussion here and how much I enjoyed the simplicity and elegance of A&A back in the day and purchased it.
Let's see how enjoyable the new version is.

[montrealsteak]

AAO is no money grab. This game is probably the best gaming value available online. I didn’t realize this until I started playing world of warships where before I knew it I had spent hundreds of dollars.

Also it doesn’t matter where you fall on the skill spectrum. You will eventually end up with similar level players on ranked and be rewarded far more than any AI could deliver.

[We're Needed]

Originally posted by El Guapo:

Straight forward question: I already own "GG World at War: A World Divided" with HD mod and so forth.
Used to be an Axis & Allies fan 20 years ago, so I only vaguely remember it to be a more casual version of Gary Grigsby, but still very enjoyable.

Anyone here who owns both games?
I guess a deciding factor will be how well-coded the new Axis & Allies game is, or if it's just a lazy money-grab.

What id the "HD mod" for GG WaW, and where can we get it? (There's nothing about it on Matrix's site.)

[El Guapo]

Originally posted by We're Needed:

Originally posted by El Guapo:

Straight forward question: I already own "GG World at War: A World Divided" with HD mod and so forth.
Used to be an Axis & Allies fan 20 years ago, so I only vaguely remember it to be a more casual version of Gary Grigsby, but still very enjoyable.

Anyone here who owns both games?
I guess a deciding factor will be how well-coded the new Axis & Allies game is, or if it's just a lazy money-grab.

What id the "HD mod" for GG WaW, and where can we get it? (There's nothing about it on Matrix's site.)

I think it was included in the Deluxe WaW mod:
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10568&t=126288

If not, let me know and I shall dig deeper in my files.

[We're Needed]

Originally posted by El Guapo:

Originally posted by We're Needed:

What id the "HD mod" for GG WaW, and where can we get it? (There's nothing about it on Matrix's site.)

I think it was included in the Deluxe WaW mod:
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10568&t=126288

If not, let me know and I shall dig deeper in my files.

Found it. Thanks! I assume version 1.05 is the best one to use?

[ReoHays]

This is not HOI, but it stands on it's own. Not as hard to learn, but harder to master. Check out the Discord channel. There is a lot of players and resources there.