Bugged/fixed dice??

[ebloom907]

Yeah, I've been running multiple single player and online games and the AI rolls are off the charts. It is to the point where it's almost unplayable. The AI hits with tanks at generally 60-80% where I've been lucky to have 40% success. This is across multiple battles, and the AI counterattacks are almost always brutally successful. Let's say AI brings 15 units into the battle and I'm defending with 12. Many times all of my units are wiped with still 10-12 AI units surviving.

[theothermj]

If your losing to the AI it's not the dice

[ebloom907]

Did you read anything I typed?

[kimryoung]

I have played over a hundred single player games vs the computer AI, Axis and Allies pretty much equally. I have NEVER lost to the AI...never! the AI in this game is not just bad, its absurd!

I can usually win as either side in 4 to 6 turns with no problem. The dice simply do not matter. If you get a bad initial roll, cut your losses and call off the attack. Never put your forces in a position defensively where luck can beat you, pull back and go on the attack on your turn.

And if you can't beat the AI 99% of the time, then for sure do not play a real opponent.

Kim

[Julius Borisov]

There are 3 dice modes in the game now:
- Standard RNG
- Low Luck
- Biased Dice

If you don't like Standard RNG, please try out Low Luck or Biased Dice, and you'll feel the difference.

[pkealey]

Originally posted by kimryoung:

I have played over a hundred single player games vs the computer AI, Axis and Allies pretty much equally. I have NEVER lost to the AI...never! the AI in this game is not just bad, its absurd!

I can usually win as either side in 4 to 6 turns with no problem. The dice simply do not matter. If you get a bad initial roll, cut your losses and call off the attack. Never put your forces in a position defensively where luck can beat you, pull back and go on the attack on your turn.

And if you can't beat the AI 99% of the time, then for sure do not play a real opponent.

Kim

You have never lost in over a hundred games and 'the dice do not matter'? Either you are EXTREMELY lucky with dice rolls or you're talking BS.
Playing as the axis is pretty easy but I have lost quite a few games as the allies because of unlucky dice in the first few turns which have resulted in losing virtually all British naval units and eventual loss of Russia because the British and US units are unable to come to its assistance (and Russia gradually being whittled down even though I play very defensively as Russia).
In the meantime while I'm using the UK and US to try to prevent Germany rolling over Russia, India gets increasingly threatened by both Germany and Japan.

[montrealsteak]

I felt the same as the OP when I first started playing the game in season 3. I couldn't beat the AI and the dice rolls seemed off.

The problem was I didn't understand the odds and the concept of deadzoning. I was placing units in spaces where they were outnumbered by neighboring provinces, so they killed on the next turn.

Another thing I didn't understand that attacking and taking provinces for income is necessary, even if you're just trading and not holding. This means the USSR should not be played defensively if you are able to attack with the advantage. The USSR needs to take provinces to earn IPC's.

These are some basic concepts that are subject to complex exceptions and contingencies.

Also, use a battle calculator and try to attack when you have 90% or better chances of winning. If you're attacking something valuable like a capital, then maybe you're willing to accept lower odds.

I hadn't played the AI for a while so I just played as the USSR and the AI played all other countries. The USA and UK were very slow and didn't start landing units in Europe until round 5, but I still took Berlin with USSR in round 9. Once you reach Bronze or higher, you can't lose to the AI.

Don't get me wrong, the dice can be very frustrating, no matter your rank. But you learn to deal with it and you learn that wins and losses are mostly (but not always) decided by skill.

[jdinnis]

Not just AI, the Dice in the game are just not random. Today I got screwed by the dice in TRHEE battles in a single round. Lost a 75% probability of win battle, and a 90% probability of win battle and won a 98% probability battle but lost more units than was probability (probability of this outcome 0.2%. All this in the same round. The round before I lost a 87% battle and two 67% battles in a single round. This is a widely known issue. and first round rolls are always worse. The dice are supposed to be random they are not, so yes the game is broken.

[montrealsteak]

It could be that there's something wrong with the standard dice. I don't know. But even if there is something wrong with the software, it apples to everyone, so dice wise, the playing field is even.

Take your standard trading battle, 2 inf and 1 ftr vs. i inf. It's 98% for the attacker, but it often fails. Just happened to me as G. One out of two attacks (2+1 vs 1) failed. But yesterday I took Berlin with UK with 1% odds.

67% odds is very risky. Even 87% is risky. At 90% I'm ready to retreat if the first roll is bad.

Personally, I like the crazy results. I'm not a top player, so sometimes I take big risks to win a game that I'm losing. But if you like reliable results, then low luck dice may be right for you.

[Ghost]

I've also experienced the dice issue, specifically when playing just one nation and letting AI take the role of my fellow allies. There's got to be something crazy going on with their algorithm. I starting keeping the rolls in excel and yeah, nowhere near equal for "standard dice."

[simon_hibbs]

I think it's worth bearing in mind that thousands of people are playing this game, most of them with a handful of games going on at any given time. Thus highly unlikely strings of results, that most players won't see or will only experience very rarely, are absolutely going to happen to some people. It sucks if it's you, but them's the breaks I'm afraid. Axis & Allies even as a physical board game has always been notorious for being very swingy.

[Duke of Zork]

I think over time the dice rolls might even out. I have a lot of battles, where I'll roll 20+ dice and get one hit. Then in the final round of combat, I'll get LOTS of excess hits, so for the combat as a whole, the rolls might not have been too unreasonable.

Strat Bombing is as bad as ever. You should lose the Bomber 1 time in 6, but it's always been more like 3 times in 6 for me (I've lost it 3 times out of the last 4, and am going back to have to go back to never Strat Bombing unless way ahead). Pity, as it could be quite useful if it worked right.

[Juggernaut]

Originally posted by Duke of Zork:

Strat Bombing is as bad as ever. You should lose the Bomber 1 time in 6, but it's always been more like 3 times in 6 for me (I've lost it 3 times out of the last 4, and am going back to have to go back to never Strat Bombing unless way ahead). Pity, as it could be quite useful if it worked right.

Strat bombing is the same as any other dice. we have excel spreadsheets on excel spreadsheets proving it. You can take the $100 dollar charity bet like so many others before you if you wish, join the discord, and record rolls. Up to you. Usually the guys who take it assume that their dice are the ones that are bad, and by about round 3 of a public custom rolling session we start seeing the excuses being posted.

your "last roll evens out the dice" has been disproven as well. There's another $100 bounty for that one too.

https://discord.gg/Z7ZmBUyw click the link and ping me if you wanna lose $200

also if money's the issue, we'll talk it out, We've never lost so im comfortable giving 5-1 odds or w/e. its for charity anyway so IDC

[simon_hibbs]

Hits on a 1 are very high variation rolls. Here's a fun fact, let's say you strat bomb Berlin with 6 bombers. It's reasonably likely you'll lose one bomber right? Well, yes, but actually the chances you will lose exactly 1 bomber is about 20%. But the chances you will lose 2 or more bombers in aggregate is actually slightly higher at about 26%. So there's a significant bus effect, you get none for ages and then a bunch show up at the same time.

In placement this season I would regularly see my opponents make roughly evens attacks with big stacks, which higher ranked players know is just insane. Clearly these people have no idea how the odds work, or how to plan efficient attacks. you cannot, cannot, cannot expect making marginal odds attacks at 60%, 70% or even 80% to work out as a winning strategy overall. It's a recipe for consistent attrition of your forces and reasonably frequent disaster.

[steveokula]

I have played 6378 hours on line and the dice are fair. Odd sequences happen but it works both ways and eventually evens out.

[Abscondrel]

you can be losing for 4 turns and still beat this AI. i cant remember actually losing. the AI is pretty much inept.

dice complaining is still going strong. if only the energy of dice complaining could be transferred into improving the AI.