Mission 14: Nigel's Gambit.

[Calloused]

So I've been stuck for a while on this one with get ridding of the hoodlums. I have taken down the first enemy HQ and just need to get rid of the hoodlums to advance to the next step, but there is nobody to kill. The only gangsters left are mine, I'm systematically shrinking them down into nothingness as I take over properties trying to trigger the next step, just wont trigger though so have I missed something?

[Constructor_Plus]

Hi

If you've destroyed yellow team then the step to remove the hoodlums and destroy their headquarters should both trigger at the same since you can't kill anyone on a team that no longer exists.

Could you screenshot what exactly you see as well as the mission briefing steps? Bear in mind that there's also a condition to place police patrols mentioned at the end of the first paragraph.

For quick reference here are the goals of that specific stage as per our mission document.

Stg3 {F3} Player has two police patrols
Stg3 {F4} Yellow Team owns no more undesirables or gangsters.
Stg3 {F5} Player must destroy Yellow Team HQ

F4 and F5 may be done at the same time if you're able to destroy yellow sooner, though depending on AI build speed and other settings you may not be able to do that immediately.

Kindest regards

System 3

[Calloused]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1965518353

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1965519482

Hopefully those work, but as you can see, Yellow is gone and Red is being slowly edged out. I am well established so may have triggered things ahead of time, but I've done that before and they haven't triggered until their section. I have patrols in action, even though the only undesirables on the map are all mine and my jails are empty.

I had assumed it referred to Red's gangsters since they were far more numerous, but I simply raced straight to producing workers, turned them into gangsters, went straight at Yellow's HQ to take that down first since I was more concerned about Red.

Could it be from only killing Yellow's HQ instead of doing any steps between? Red had a lot of gangsters, they were a pain to take down, it seemed the most practical solution.

[Constructor_Plus]

The stage indeed asks you to destroy yellow team and therefore if you destroy them you should complete both of those goals. However, this may not yet be patched into the default public branch and would explain why you're not seeing that happen. Proactively dealing with red is a good idea too but you can't destroy them just yet.

If you switch to the s3public_beta branch does this fix the problem? Most logic should apply retroactively but this might be an edge case where it doesn't.

If it doesn't help please send us the save file. Upload the save file somewhere and we'll happily mark it completed for you so you may proceed to the next stage as you've clearly completed the goal.

How To Find Your Saves

1. Press windows key + R to open the run dialog.
2. Type or copy the following text into the run dialog text box: %appdata%\System 3\Constructor Plus\Mission
3. Zip the folders and email them to [e-mail]

Alternatively if you go inside each numbered folder and open the desc.dat file with notepad you'll see the exact name of the file as it appears in the game.

Kindest regards

System 3

[Calloused]

OK, well I will have to give that a shot and hope it works, I'd hate to think I blocked myself by being too successful and offsetting a trigger, that would be kind of awkward.
While it is essentially game breaking as its broken my current game, I've got to say that the eerie quickness of this customer support goes a long way and with the amount of missions in the game, little quirks like this are inevitable in that spaghetti of code.

[Constructor_Plus]

If you desire we can mark the stage completed so you may proceed to the next one in the mission if the beta build doesn't resolve the problem. We just require you to send the save file to us, you may do it via the private message that was sent through Steam or via our email [e-mail]

We'll send it back ASAP.

Kindest regards

System 3

[Constructor_Plus]

Discovered the cause and it's quite silly. If you destroyed yellow team and they happened to have a construction site for an undesirable building then it would be included by proxy in the requirements of removing the hoodlums. The stage itself requires defeating all undesirables owned by yellow and as an extension of that, destroying all of their abodes too.

The public beta build does not fix this specific problem so you will need to send your save to us so we can mark that particular goal as completed. We'll address the problem but it's unlikely a new build will go live until we've finished the current code changes we're making to the AI.

We're very sorry that this particular issue slipped through.

Kindest regards

System 3

[UnnamedKiller]

Hi,
i have a issue with Mission 14 Task 5. Within 5 years closed down. i saw the task completed but my mission still continue forever.

i stay alive for the next 5 years but this tasks completed but mission can't end.

[Constructor_Plus]

I believe we tied the mission completion to the player destroying red team due to previous feedback so the player isn't having to wait for 5 years if they're able to wipe them out sooner. However, it looks like the conditions have become a tad confused and simply outlasting them is not being considered anymore. We can fix that.

You'll need to destroy red team. We'd suggest using the hippy's dance party outside their headquarters, followed up with plenty of laser packing gangsters. Should complete after that.

Kindest regards

System 3

[UnnamedKiller]

Actually i saw undesirable not buildable.

Anyway i manage to complete by trying the other way of destroy the HQ first
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1969366690

but it wont complete still need wait 5 years.

[Constructor_Plus]

You're right about the undesirables. My apologies, completely forgot that we'd disabled undesirables (Nigel doesn't yet have access to them as this is a sort of prequel mission to Basic Job).

Thanks for the additional information. We noticed that was also the case so there was likely last minute changes that broke the comparison of 'is red team dead/have 5 years passed'. We'll sort that too.

Many thanks really appreciate the feedback and sorry about this particular mission. :)

Kindest regards

System 3

[rodrigodestiny]

after today's update on public beta, this mission still not working.
On the last step, I survived the 5 years, got the mission complete text and then got a game over screen.
Im gonna keep my save untill a new patch comes up that fix this mission.

[Constructor_Plus]

Rodrigodestiny, we're very sorry to hear that it hasn't been corrected. There was a mix-up when looking into the original issue as provided in the original post, and only stage 3 of the mission appears to have been addressed.

Could you please send your save to us because interestingly enough when we try to reproduce this the mission continues perpetually until the red team is eliminated so it would be interesting to see why the game is failing you in this particular instance.

You may also complete the mission by eliminating the red team if you're in a position to do so, but that can be tricky if they've built up and have reserves of men to throw at your attack.

As regards the save file see below for instructions on how to find the saves for missions:

How To Find Your Saves

1. Press windows key + R to open the run dialog.

2. Type or copy the following text into the run dialog text box: %appdata%\System 3\Constructor Plus\Mission

3. Zip the folders and email them to [e-mail]

Kindest regards

System 3

[Constructor_Plus]

We've resolved the problems mentioned above by Rodrigo, and the fixes will be included in the next beta build we release.

Many thanks for your patience

System 3

[⇝ŠẴmükẴ⇜™]

I don't understand what to do in stage 4/5 ???
I've already eliminated the yellow team, but I don't know what to take from the enemy to advance to stage 5.
Can someone help me?

[⇝ŠẴmükẴ⇜™]

OK. I figured it out myself. It is probably a translation error for the Portuguese language. The word "Assalto" implies that we have to use the thief to do the job, when in fact it is enough to take the red group's casinos, or destroy them with our gangsters.