Super Robot Wars 30

Super Robot Wars 30

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BlackDragon Oct 29, 2021 @ 7:46am
No transforming/combining mecha?
Just wondering if they really dropped that feature, or if I'm gonna start running into them later... it certainly seems a shame, considering that past SRW games have used it for robots that canonically combine or transform. So far, I've recruited Cybuster (who can't turn into a bird anymore) and the SRX crew (who are stuck permanently combined), and those are just mechas that I KNOW had these capabilities in previous titles. The whole Brave Police Squad also possess transforming, combining or BOTH in the story, but can't do any of it on the field.

It's not a dealbreaker or anything, I'm still elated to have this game regardless, it's just... kind of sad. Transforming and combining are mainstays of the mecha genre so leaving out such a feature seems rather limiting...
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Ra'Xir Oct 29, 2021 @ 7:49am 
Yeah, as far as I'm aware, at least, the combining and transforming are OG series things...
Mechanicalfanboy Oct 29, 2021 @ 7:52am 
SRX is usually able to combine/split whenever it's a part of the main cast, I assume it can;t in this one because it's a Pre-order bonus (which is a shame, Rai's usually a very good pilot to use.

Edit: information below is wrong, but it feels weird just deleting it so I'm just going to put up a warning before it, sorry for any misunderstandings.
I've seen Shin Getter Robo on the attack previews so that's probably one transformation mecha at least. Unless something went horribly wrong.
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Luttara Oct 29, 2021 @ 7:54am 
I know the Methuss is capable of transforming, So I don't know about all the rest. They might've been dropped from a lack of need or downsizing/balancing for dlc purposes(in the case of Cybuster and SRX).
BlackDragon Oct 29, 2021 @ 8:00am 
Well, I do HOPE those two I mentioned only lack the feature due to being DLC/Preorder Bonuses... but as I said, the entire Brave Police Squad are canonically all ABOUT combining and transforming, with Kagemaru notably having four different transformations that he can use in ATTACKS, but not on the field. Just letting him transform into his fighter-jet form would've been quite useful, that's basically the standard in the first place - robot to jet transformation, right?

Eh, hopefully you're right, and the feature will start appearing later.
lPaladinl Oct 29, 2021 @ 8:02am 
Combining wasn't really a thing in VXT except for Gurren Lagann combining at the very end of the game.

Transformables were common, but I'm not sure that there's many of them around in SRW30.
Protoman Oct 29, 2021 @ 8:18am 
Cybuster wasn't able to transform in V and X, at least. Since it's the same unit from those games, it makes sense.
Daranion Oct 29, 2021 @ 8:51am 
Originally posted by Mechanicalfanboy:
SRX is usually able to combine/split whenever it's a part of the main cast, I assume it can;t in this one because it's a Pre-order bonus (which is a shame, Rai's usually a very good pilot to use.

I've seen Shin Getter Robo on the attack previews so that's probably one transformation mecha at least. Unless something went horribly wrong.
It's Daikessen Dragon, that Getter doesn't transform
Mechanicalfanboy Oct 29, 2021 @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by Daranion:
Originally posted by Mechanicalfanboy:
SRX is usually able to combine/split whenever it's a part of the main cast, I assume it can;t in this one because it's a Pre-order bonus (which is a shame, Rai's usually a very good pilot to use.

I've seen Shin Getter Robo on the attack previews so that's probably one transformation mecha at least. Unless something went horribly wrong.
It's Daikessen Dragon, that Getter doesn't transform

Shin Getter Robo is in there too somewhere, haven't unlocked him myself but if you leave it on the title screen long enough, Ryoma will show up and do his getta beam on an enemy as a preview.
RiO Oct 29, 2021 @ 9:06am 
Originally posted by Mechanicalfanboy:
Originally posted by Daranion:
It's Daikessen Dragon, that Getter doesn't transform

Shin Getter Robo is in there too somewhere, haven't unlocked him myself but if you leave it on the title screen long enough, Ryoma will show up and do his getta beam on an enemy as a preview.

That's not Shin Getter.
That's Shin Getter Dragon aka Daikessen Dragon.

The series is officially roll called in the demo reels as (iirc) "Dynamic Publishing Originals" instead of "Shin Getter Robo : Armageddon" as well.
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Mechanicalfanboy Oct 29, 2021 @ 9:11am 
Originally posted by RiO:
Originally posted by Mechanicalfanboy:

Shin Getter Robo is in there too somewhere, haven't unlocked him myself but if you leave it on the title screen long enough, Ryoma will show up and do his getta beam on an enemy as a preview.

That's not Shin Getter.
That's Shin Getter Dragon aka Daikessen Dragon.

The series is officially roll called in the demo reels as (iirc) "Dynamic Publishing Originals" instead of "Shin Getter Robo : Armageddon" as well.

Demo reel name is right (or very close to right.), perhaps I'm mistaken then. It was in passing since I just left it on for a while, noticed Ryoma and it looked physically similar. I apologize for that.
BarnMegaparsec Oct 29, 2021 @ 9:15am 
In the settings, you can set "Transform" as a Quick Command for the X/Y button (or other controller equivalent), which seems weird if nothing can transform. We know the Zeta is in the game, I'd be astounded if that can't transform into the Waverider form.
BlackDragon Oct 29, 2021 @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by BarnMegaparsec:
In the settings, you can set "Transform" as a Quick Command for the X/Y button (or other controller equivalent), which seems weird if nothing can transform. We know the Zeta is in the game, I'd be astounded if that can't transform into the Waverider form.

I hadn't noticed that thing about the Quick Command... that DOES suggest that there are actual transforming units in the game too! Maybe no combining, though... but, there are Combination Attacks which serve a similar purpose, I suppose.

There just clearly isn't MANY transforming units, considering that literally NONE OF US have actually unlocked a transformation-capable unit yet. >_>
Reu Oct 29, 2021 @ 10:54am 
The game is just very long, some people spent a ton of time playing and don't even have a single gundam, I still don't even have J-decker because of the mission layout I took
BlackDragon Oct 29, 2021 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by Reu:
The game is just very long, some people spent a ton of time playing and don't even have a single gundam, I still don't even have J-decker because of the mission layout I took

Well, that really just further drives home how few there must be - some of us started on Earth, others started in Space, so there are two completely different sets of 'starting' mechas that have been unlocked, and not a single transformer in either, apparently...

(The fact that J-Decker and the rest of the Brave Police are rather blatant Transformers knockoffs just makes it all the weirder that none of them have access to the actual Transform-feature, honestly..)
Big Convoy Oct 29, 2021 @ 1:00pm 
I don't think you can really called the Brave robots Transformers knockoff since they were also made by the same company that made Transformers.

Also, the reason they don't have the transform ability is because most of them have no attacks in their alt mode. Deckerd is able to transform into a police car, but he never attack in that form.
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