They shouldn't have released the DLC yet. Thoughts?

[harryswinburne15]

As title says. It makes it seem like they don't care about their community / customers, when the game is still unbelievably broken with the amount of crashes, and issues.

The fact that the game won't load for a lot of people, or the known issue where all campaign aircraft cease to exist so you can't even play in any mode other than conquest.

And yet here they are releasing a whole damn DLC when their game is still broken and unplayable for a large portion of the people supporting them by buying the game.

What are ya'lls thoughts on this?

[the gensokyo grim reaper]

works on my machine

[Hobbes09]

Originally posted by today i will eat a gyoza:

works on my machine

Good for you. It's broken on mine.

[PiscesSoedroen]

man the QA is wack, how in the world does this update manages to have multiple unique bugs that only happens to a dozen people each

[Hugh G. Rection]

Easily working for most people. If it wasn't, this discussion board would be wall to wall with players complaining-- ie, hundreds of threads deep like No Man's SKy, Fallout 76, etc. This isn't even close. The few people having issues with it are disproportionately vocal.

Have you tried verifying the integrity of the game files? Have you tried reinstalling? Are your video drivers up to date? I mean, I had framerate stuttering issues initially. Soon as I updated the video driver, zero issues since...

[Hobbes09]

Originally posted by Mike Ockertz:

Easily working for most people. If it wasn't, this discussion board would be wall to wall with players complaining-- ie, hundreds of threads deep like No Man's SKy, Fallout 76, etc. This isn't even close. The few people having issues with it are disproportionately vocal.

Have you tried verifying the integrity of the game files? Have you tried reinstalling? Are your video drivers up to date? I mean, I had framerate stuttering issues initially. Soon as I updated the video driver, zero issues since...

Verified integrity multiple times, reinstalled multiple times, updated video drivers, updated PC, restarted twice, downgraded graphics, manually installed UE4 support, did not have mods installed.
Finally got it to work by manually deleting all file folders in steam and AppData.
It's wonderful that it worked 100% for you and for a lot of other people. These crashing issues have not been isolated and using "it worked for a majority" doesn't help. Get off your high horse if you feel the need to be a prick, because chances are that's the extent of what you're being.

[LuckyLiolf]

Get a new PC

[Neoh]

The game is super broken right now. God these comments are useless.

[Neoh]

Also anyone having problems right now should use the beta branch "Legacy build".

[York]

its not a PC issue if its what i think it is then the fix is to do the following

go to the local files and find the following
Manifest_DebugFiles_Win64 and Manifest_NonUFSFiles_Win64.
uninstall both of them then verify the local files

to everyone saying "just buy a new PC" these are actual bugs that seem to effect a few people while i am lucky not to have this one myself i know others who have and being snarky doesn't help anyone.

also join the discord if you have issues that's where you'll find the patch notes and get help with bug fixes.

if that doesn't work then youll need to ask the discord

[endcrab]

Originally posted by harryswinburne15:

It makes it seem like they don't care about their community / customers

It tracks with their prior record of never communicating, not delivering on promises and taking sony's money to ♥♥♥♥ over the community on a game that was kickstarted on the premise of "ace combat but for PC instead of console exclusive". Are you surprised? They don't care.

[harryswinburne15]

Originally posted by endcrab:

Originally posted by harryswinburne15:

It makes it seem like they don't care about their community / customers

It tracks with their prior record of never communicating, not delivering on promises and taking sony's money to ♥♥♥♥ over the community on a game that was kickstarted on the premise of "ace combat but for PC instead of console exclusive". Are you surprised? They don't care.

I could tolerate it to a certain point since it was a 3 person dev team with only one coder, (and still is as far as i know) but there is a limit to what I and many others can take. it's reached a point where i've now stopped seeing people defending them for only having 3 people on the team, and that really says something.

[JtDarth]

Originally posted by harryswinburne15:

Originally posted by endcrab:

It tracks with their prior record of never communicating, not delivering on promises and taking sony's money to ♥♥♥♥ over the community on a game that was kickstarted on the premise of "ace combat but for PC instead of console exclusive". Are you surprised? They don't care.

I could tolerate it to a certain point since it was a 3 person dev team with only one coder, (and still is as far as i know) but there is a limit to what I and many others can take. it's reached a point where i've now stopped seeing people defending them for only having 3 people on the team, and that really says something.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of utter IDIOTS who view 'small team' as a get out of jail free card that means they are immune to criticism.

You also have a LOT of people who go 'well I don't know what's going on, but you are being unreasonable', which is idiocy of a different kind. Or even worse, the dogpilers whose sole existence seems to be to attempt to arbitrarily declare that past issues are irrelevant and should be ignored, and pretend nothing is wrong and never has been.

That so many devs just lean on a discord server instead of the tools available at point of sale just makes it VERY clear that they don't actually want user feedback. So they create a walled garden where they can see only what they want to.

For the 'age of information', we sure seem to have dropping intelligence and education levels across the board. Which is, unfortunately, backed up by research at this point.

[Hugh G. Rection]

Still not doing irony, huh? What I don't get is how you people *CONSTANTLY** complain at the top of your voices about the game, complain about the size of the team, complain about the lack of communication, complain about [insert other real or imagined grievances here], and yet... you never leave.

Really feels to me like you folks are *only* into the whinging at this point, more so than you ever were into the game. So why are you still here?? If life sucks and you hate everything, you hate the devs and you're decrying the state of the game, why are you here yelling at everyone every day, ad-bloody-nauseam? Why aren't you off playing/doing something else? What's the end-game here? None of you are asking for refunds. Is your goal to put others off the game even if they enjoy it? Is the daily complaining as loud and vociferously as possible designed to somehow 'motivate' the devs-- you know, the devs who are more active on Discord than here? Or are you guys just in it for the complaining now? Because several people have tried to offer help in multiple threads and they hardly get a response. But mention the devs and a certain type here is up on their soapbox quicker than poo through a goose...

[PiscesSoedroen]

Originally posted by Mike Ockertz:

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what i found funny is that they seem to want negative discourse. like, damn twitter exists for a reason you know?

[JtDarth]

Originally posted by Mike Ockertz:

Still not doing irony, huh? What I don't get is how you people *CONSTANTLY** complain at the top of your voices about the game, complain about the size of the team, complain about the lack of communication, complain about [insert other real or imagined grievances here], and yet... you never leave.

Really feels to me like you folks are *only* into the whinging at this point, more so than you ever were into the game. So why are you still here?? If life sucks and you hate everything, you hate the devs and you're decrying the state of the game, why are you here yelling at everyone every day, ad-bloody-nauseam? Why aren't you off playing/doing something else? What's the end-game here? None of you are asking for refunds. Is your goal to put others off the game even if they enjoy it? Is the daily complaining as loud and vociferously as possible designed to somehow 'motivate' the devs-- you know, the devs who are more active on Discord than here? Or are you guys just in it for the complaining now? Because several people have tried to offer help in multiple threads and they hardly get a response. But mention the devs and a certain type here is up on their soapbox quicker than poo through a goose...

Nice job making a strawman. Bonus points for refusing to quote who you are referring to, or in ANY way address any of what was said. But then, what else can we expect from one of the handful of people who very clearly is here just to be a contrarian, with no care whatsoever for actual DISCUSSION of things? Or do you think blindly labelling everyone you disagree with as entitled counts as a 'point of discussion'?

There is no 'help' to be offered. Because the problems aren't on the user end. The game is utterly busted, and it's not just 'a small handful' having issues, even aside that some issues are UNIVERSAL like the new cloud system being an unreasonable performance hog that often looks objectively WORSE than the old one.

People complain to try to counteract people like you who want to lie about there being nothing wrong, and to alert potential buyers of issues and red flags the game has, in hopes of triggering a course correction and getting things fixed. Going 'buh discord' is part of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ problem, because Discord lets devs isolate themselves from any kind of feedback they don't want to hear in a way more public forums don't.

We don't hate the game. We want it to WORK PROPERLY and have the contents the dev repeatedly advertised as coming soon. It's disappointment, not hate. We wouldn't be here still if we didn't love the game and want to come back to it. But at the same time, things go unaddressed and the dev actively makes bad decisions, so we want those things to be solved, and for new players to go in KNOWING what they are getting into, instead of getting misled by yes-men who live in an alternate reality.

Originally posted by PiscesSoedroen:

Originally posted by Mike Ockertz:

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what i found funny is that they seem to want negative discourse. like, damn twitter exists for a reason you know?

No, what people want is for the dev to FIX THE ♥♥♥♥ THEY BROKE. Things don't get fixed, if noone holds producers accountable for issues and everyone just mindlessly consumes.

People aren't upset because they 'hate the game'. They are upset because they KNOW it can be a lot better, yet the dev keeps fumbling the bag to such a degree it comes across as impossible to be anything but ACTIVELY choosing to screw things up on a technical level.