The epitome of greed

[Detrian]

After 4 years, nearly half a decade, waiting for the game to be completed with all the things the dev wanted to add and was supposedly working on, suddenly we get some DLC we have to pay for and none of the other content that was promised.

If some people didn't fancy themselves friends of the dev (parasocial weirdos...), everyone would be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on this.

[Hugh G. Rection]

Credibility? Of the people just looking to have a sook at a dev for [insert fictional grievance here]?? Oh that's a laugh. Unhinged whinging at devs (because reasons) is par for the course on the modern day interwebz.

[Detrian]

Originally posted by H2SJaeger:

Originally posted by Detrian:

The dumbest excuse.

"Oooh it's just one guy! I'm gonna pretend hiring someone is impossible with the millions of dollars the dev won!"

Please.



Says the man with a library five times smaller than mine. Just take the L and accept the dev made a clown out of you.

From what I remember, this game was a passion project based off of Ace Combat. It wasn't a wanting to be the beginning of a studio or anything like that. If the guy doesn't want to hire more help, there's no obligation for him to. If he breaks promises, that's also his choice. It's not an excuse to not want to hire more people. It's complicated as hell to have people work for you as well as a huge responsibility. If the guy doesn't want to do it, I don't see a problem with it.

Well maybe then he shouldn't ship an incomplete game, promise he'll work on it, and then vanish for four years.

[Elder King]

If you are that poor, you shouldn't be playing games and make a living instead.

[Nimitz]

Originally posted by Cruxion:

Bro it's $5.

Ikr and still there's people who still gonna cry for $5 DLC

[Kimbo]

Originally posted by Detrian:

After 4 years, nearly half a decade, waiting for the game to be completed with all the things the dev wanted to add and was supposedly working on, suddenly we get some DLC we have to pay for and none of the other content that was promised.

If some people didn't fancy themselves friends of the dev (parasocial weirdos...), everyone would be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on this.

I won't be buying any new games from these people because of how they ignored the PC community and begged to PS. Just another company to avoid rip

[Detrian]

Originally posted by Elder King:

If you are that poor, you shouldn't be playing games and make a living instead.

"HEH! I will gladly pay 5 dollars to get kicked in the ♥♥♥♥. That's not too expensive at all"

[Gray Knight]

Originally posted by Detrian:

Originally posted by Monstervillia:

this dude forgot the dev is basically just one guy.

The dumbest excuse.

"Oooh it's just one guy! I'm gonna pretend hiring someone is impossible with the millions of dollars the dev won!"

Please.

Originally posted by Gray Knight:

lamo bro don't have 5.36

Says the man with a library five times smaller than mine. Just take the L and accept the dev made a clown out of you.

damn thats crazy. the man with over 1000 games.

I guess i should be scared of the person who waste their time and money on games they never played or will play. They CLEARLY like the high chair of having a lot of toys and don't have actual toys they enjoy playing with to the point they get mad when other people have fun with those same toys.

[Berserk Belta]

Originally posted by Detrian:

Originally posted by Monstervillia:

this dude forgot the dev is basically just one guy.

The dumbest excuse.

"Oooh it's just one guy! I'm gonna pretend hiring someone is impossible with the millions of dollars the dev won!"

Please.

Originally posted by Gray Knight:

lamo bro don't have 5.36

Says the man with a library five times smaller than mine. Just take the L and accept the dev made a clown out of you.

Hm. I could understand the point you were making before, but now it's sounding a bit off the wall to be honest. A developer has to do the things that pay money, you can't necessarily sell a game at any price, let alone the price this shipped at, then run dev for 4 years out of your pocket to make free DLC.

Don't get me wrong, if a dev runs out of dev budget before it's perfectly rounded off that isn't great... but... if they manage to make a profit on other platforms, then come back to the original one able to update it and sell DLC, that's one of the best case scenarios. I can think of loads of games where I wish the developer had done this.

[Detrian]

Originally posted by Berserk Va'ruun:

Originally posted by Detrian:

The dumbest excuse.

"Oooh it's just one guy! I'm gonna pretend hiring someone is impossible with the millions of dollars the dev won!"

Please.



Says the man with a library five times smaller than mine. Just take the L and accept the dev made a clown out of you.

Hm. I could understand the point you were making before, but now it's sounding a bit off the wall to be honest. A developer has to do the things that pay money, you can't necessarily sell a game at any price, let alone the price this shipped at, then run dev for 4 years out of your pocket to make free DLC.

Don't get me wrong, if a dev runs out of dev budget before it's perfectly rounded off that isn't great... but... if they manage to make a profit on other platforms, then come back to the original one able to update it and sell DLC, that's one of the best case scenarios. I can think of loads of games where I wish the developer had done this.

No idea what you are talking about, to be frank. I'm talking about leaving the game unfinished for years and then shoveling some DLC out the door and expecting people to eat it up (outside the dummies here).

Originally posted by Gray Knight:

Originally posted by Detrian:

The dumbest excuse.

"Oooh it's just one guy! I'm gonna pretend hiring someone is impossible with the millions of dollars the dev won!"

Please.



Says the man with a library five times smaller than mine. Just take the L and accept the dev made a clown out of you.

damn thats crazy. the man with over 1000 games.

I guess i should be scared of the person who waste their time and money on games they never played or will play. They CLEARLY like the high chair of having a lot of toys and don't have actual toys they enjoy playing with to the point they get mad when other people have fun with those same toys.

"He is not broke like me, therefore he must have no favorite games or anything!!!!!"
The mental acrobatics of someone desperate.

[GuyWithAHat]

This is the saddest thread I've ever seen.

[Orifan1]

Originally posted by Mike Ockertz:

Credibility? Of the people just looking to have a sook at a dev for [insert fictional grievance here]?? Oh that's a laugh. Unhinged whinging at devs (because reasons) is par for the course on the modern day interwebz.

game crashes randomly upon mission loading
game freezes up when i try to leave a mission or go back to the hanger
we still dont have end tier prezmobiles

but sure, all fictional. shut the ♥♥♥♥ up and go touch grass, godless troll.

[Unknown Error]

There are 3 people on the development team.

[Berserk Belta]

Originally posted by Detrian:

Originally posted by Berserk Va'ruun:

Hm. I could understand the point you were making before, but now it's sounding a bit off the wall to be honest. A developer has to do the things that pay money, you can't necessarily sell a game at any price, let alone the price this shipped at, then run dev for 4 years out of your pocket to make free DLC.

Don't get me wrong, if a dev runs out of dev budget before it's perfectly rounded off that isn't great... but... if they manage to make a profit on other platforms, then come back to the original one able to update it and sell DLC, that's one of the best case scenarios. I can think of loads of games where I wish the developer had done this.

No idea what you are talking about, to be frank. I'm talking about leaving the game unfinished for years and then shoveling some DLC out the door and expecting people to eat it up (outside the dummies here).

You seem to think they should have kept working on the project for four years past the point where they shipped it, which is ...ok, you have your reasons, but also that they should not be selling ports or DLC in the meantime because it's immoral.

That's what I was talking about. "Keep doing dev work for literal years after the game went gold, also don't make money during that time because that's wrong".

If you want them to work more on the game, to as you say finish it, you would presumably like it to be possible for them to work more on the game, yes?

What is the rationale for not wanting them to be a functioning business, with this game as a going concern, if you want more work done on the game? Break it down for all the dummies you're apparently surrounded by.

[Sporg]

guys its either an autistic or a troll, it plays vr chat

[H2SJaeger]

Originally posted by Detrian:

Originally posted by H2SJaeger:

From what I remember, this game was a passion project based off of Ace Combat. It wasn't a wanting to be the beginning of a studio or anything like that. If the guy doesn't want to hire more help, there's no obligation for him to. If he breaks promises, that's also his choice. It's not an excuse to not want to hire more people. It's complicated as hell to have people work for you as well as a huge responsibility. If the guy doesn't want to do it, I don't see a problem with it.

Well maybe then he shouldn't ship an incomplete game, promise he'll work on it, and then vanish for four years.

The hell are you talking about, an incomplete game? I bought the game within the year it came out on Steam, with no knowledge of it outside of good reviews, and thought it was a great game. It was very much a finished product at release. Maybe they made some promises to the early backers that they never upheld, sure, but the game *is* a finished game. And it's a great one at that, especially for the price, and especially for how many people actually worked on it.