what the hell did you do to crimson squadren?

[Fumetsu Kage]

prior to 2.0 crimson was challenging but fair i could take them, but with 2.0 they are unkillable, damn near unhitable, i fired 250 missles at them, and 850 gun rounds all i managed to do is a slither of damage, they have unlimited AoA triggers, and unlimited flairs, seemingly massively buffed health and manoeuvrability

[Kappatalism]

I haven't noticed any changes to Crimson Squadron fights. There has never been a limit to the number of times they could AOA, and AI flares don't do anything in terms of gameplay mechanics.

[Fumetsu Kage]

the flares were distracting my missiles also are you in the beta? that is what i was talking about

[Kappatalism]

Yes. I played 2.0 beta. Haven't noticed flares actually defeat a missile. They never did in the past. AI's flares are just a way of informing the player that the unit is trying to evade. If they don't defeat your missile through maneuvering, it hits. The flares don't impair your missiles.

Missiles have never been a good way to damage Crimson, they dodge whenever they have one incoming. Guns are much better, allowing you to get a good half a second of fire on them until they AOA sharply out of your line of fire. They don't start to react until they take damage.

[Fumetsu Kage]

"and 850 gun rounds all i managed to do is a slither of damage" yea tried that too

[Kappatalism]

Hitting them is a key part of using guns.

[Rufus Shinra]

You are supposed to out-rant Crimson 1 just like in the Monkey Island games.

[Fumetsu Kage]

well when the gun reticle is on them and i hold that while shooting is that not the way to hit them with the guns? it works on everything else.

[henryfleischer01]

Well, I just fought them in Mission 11, and they seemed about the same. And I was using the SPEAR, so guns definitely work fine.

[roflBeck]

What? They're easier to hit now you mean. I just think it's weird that they changed the voiceovers at the end of Machine of the Mantle.

[CrispyMuffin]

i haven't noticed any difference. i even beat them on mission 6 in hard mode for the first time in VR when i tried the beta