Project Wingman

Project Wingman

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ChristIceman Dec 3, 2020 @ 11:41am
(Spoilers) Ending and future Hope for the Game
If you havent finished the game do not continue reading, these are my own personal opinion and such everyone have their own.

Now finishing the campaign was interesting, a few plot twist that kept me on my toes and just in awe at how the environment changed after another continent altering event
Am a bit disappointed by the lack of in between mission updates about the progress of the war and will have to replay it again to get a better time line and gasp but some mission felt like massive jumps in territory gain at time.
Now the ending was interesting the most frustrating and intense fight and i loved and hated it at the same time but just how it ends, it both sweet and unsatisfying that everything end that way and your effort are lost, everyone dead youre one of the last standing in the city, it bitter sweet but good, sad for crismon as he lost himself in obsession and revenge reminded me of the old psp ace combat game.

Now i really hope they made a DLC even Paid DLC to expand the campaign showing the after effect of the war, the destruction, how your character is seen surviving it all, maybe even being blamed, more planes even fictional, more mission, more map and new conquest maps aswell.
i just would like more as this games have alot of potential to expand and even grow, the lore of it all.

If any of the Dev sees this hat off, you manage to rival ace combat games in a way and allow alot more replayability to it aswell. it not perfect game but it a very good ones.
SO please keep working on it and add more content heck do another kickstarter for a DLC Campaign.
(english isnt my first language sorry for the faults)
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Warranty_V0IDED Dec 3, 2020 @ 11:57am 
check the lore entries for what happens afterwards. they'll scratch your itch as far as the fallout from what happened in Cascadia is concerned. on that note, if there is going to be dlc campaign, I hope its in another part of the world now that the federation basically started a world war by using calamity-scale weapons
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Jizzuz Dec 3, 2020 @ 11:59am 
Still don’t understand why they’re hunting down Hitman at the end though. Shouldn’t they be honouring them as heroes or something at least?
ChristIceman Dec 3, 2020 @ 12:01pm 
Originally posted by Warranty_V0IDED:
check the lore entries for what happens afterwards. they'll scratch your itch as far as the fallout from what happened in Cascadia is concerned. on that note, if there is going to be dlc campaign, I hope its in another part of the world now that the federation basically started a world war by using calamity-scale weapons

yeah i agree but i always believed in showing it in gameplay instead of through block notes hehe but yes i agree if there a dlc it be fun to visit the rest of the world and seeing how they deal with everything that the federation did heck even play as a federation pilot to see their perspective too
ChristIceman Dec 3, 2020 @ 12:03pm 
Originally posted by Jizzuz:
Still don’t understand why they’re hunting down Hitman at the end though. Shouldn’t they be honouring them as heroes or something at least?

revenge, you came in, destroyed what the federation built, then you came in destroy his squadron and destroy everything Crismon worked on and kept the peace, he wanted revenge and didnt care, he lost himself
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Order Dec 3, 2020 @ 2:00pm 
The Thing i like in this Game rather then Ace Combat (except Zero) is the rather depressing Ending ... like holy Excrements you have already faced a 2nd Calamity after the Cruise Missile Attack but now after Crimson 1 Rogue Attack that would be a 3rd Calamity (because as far as Details goes Cascadia is one gigantic Stepstone away from being a exploding Barrel the size of a Continent).

The City is ruined beyond repair, the loss of Civilan and Military Life and to top it all off it happend AFTER the Cease Fire News ... well ... the future of PWs World doesnt look bright in the slightest and even Sicario barely managed to get away from the whole Thing and they have still the Bounty Hunter Guild right up on their butt.
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ChristIceman Dec 3, 2020 @ 8:13pm 
Originally posted by Order:
The Thing i like in this Game rather then Ace Combat (except Zero) is the rather depressing Ending ... like holy Excrements you have already faced a 2nd Calamity after the Cruise Missile Attack but now after Crimson 1 Rogue Attack that would be a 3rd Calamity (because as far as Details goes Cascadia is one gigantic Stepstone away from being a exploding Barrel the size of a Continent).

The City is ruined beyond repair, the loss of Civilan and Military Life and to top it all off it happend AFTER the Cease Fire News ... well ... the future of PWs World doesnt look bright in the slightest and even Sicario barely managed to get away from the whole Thing and they have still the Bounty Hunter Guild right up on their butt.

The game captured the feeling like a overwhelming force, winning battle after battle then taking it away with the calamity events.
Alot of ace combat game does that but this drag you back to reality that even you, you can't save everyone
The ending was unexpected I thought there was going to be a ace fight at the end, I didn't expect seeing everything blow up and the city in ruins and almost everyone dead from what happene, and even after trying to beat the boss six time, seeing the destruction around and just being the last one flying.
It didn't feel like a victory but more like surviving.
But hey you still get paid at the end, just to add a bit of pain.
Hehe already have any idea how they can continue the story in many aspects
ChristIceman Dec 4, 2020 @ 12:16am 
If they do start working on a dlc campaign and mission, it would be nice to see Crismon, to understand him more , to see how our actions from the campaign affected him when he wasn't on the same battlefield
boris.glevrk Dec 4, 2020 @ 12:36am 
Just to clarify a few things:
From the Merc hidden end lines (you need to get through the last stage in Merc difficulty, every "named" person in Sicorio survived, including your WSO whether or not you took her in Mission 21.
From the lore files, "Hitman team is at large and Cascadian government is looking for them", but they are not necessarily on the run. Diplomat and Comic probably got the new ID Stardust gave them, and Monarch, Prez and Galaxy are still in the mercenary business.
Order Dec 4, 2020 @ 12:37am 
Well as far as i understand it the Conquest Mode is basically what happens to Monarch after the Campaign, still fighting against the Federation as a Top Ace of Cascadia even though you are a Merc still.
Marneus_FR Dec 4, 2020 @ 12:56am 
Originally posted by Order:
Well as far as i understand it the Conquest Mode is basically what happens to Monarch after the Campaign, still fighting against the Federation as a Top Ace of Cascadia even though you are a Merc still.

Yeah you still work for Sicario (you have Prez and Galaxy) but you have to recruit new members as everyone is else is gone. Makes sense.
Order Dec 4, 2020 @ 12:58am 
At least you get your own Airship Fleet which is kind of awesome ... just needed another Apocalypse for that.
Profile_Name Dec 4, 2020 @ 1:20am 
Originally posted by Warranty_V0IDED:
check the lore entries for what happens afterwards. they'll scratch your itch as far as the fallout from what happened in Cascadia is concerned. on that note, if there is going to be dlc campaign, I hope its in another part of the world now that the federation basically started a world war by using calamity-scale weapons
Federation is gonna become Belka on steroids soon.
Order Dec 4, 2020 @ 2:21am 
Originally posted by Profile Name:
Federation is gonna become Belka on steroids soon.

I would rather say a lot worse since Belka never really wanted to expand beyond their old Territories. Federation on the other Hand claims that for a "stable world" they need to "Federalize" the not so willing Parts of the World. THAT and combined with use of Weapons of Mass Destruction to use Scorched Earth Tactis on foreign Soil ... yeah ... sorry ... even though Belka itself in AC is bad enough the Federation is FAR worse.
ChristIceman Dec 4, 2020 @ 2:41am 
Well unless the dev tell where conquest fall in the story it will still can do some speculation.

The campaign is good but it missing something some aspect to it, yes the file are fun to read but you also want to experience it in the gameplay and after mission reports, that one negative I have with this game we dont get enough context like in between missions. I do hope they make a dlc or even a second game out of this and go deeper. So many idea can come up from it. So many campaign ideas. You can explore the federation side of thing, you can continue the monarch aspect of the story, visit the rest of the world. Fighting in anothers country while the war in Cascadia keep going.
Of course all sort of ideas can add to it, but unfortunately am not a game Dev and I Dont have the smartness of working code and building missions and all that. But I do have a vivid imagination and even with the ace combat games I did this mentally aswell.
I do hope the dev think about adding more after fixing the bugs, but honestly I am enjoying myself more here than in ace combat 7, even if ace combat 7 look amazing the story is one to sleep on, this game story good but need to be fleshes up and expanded, more information between missions that can be done with a extra options of voiced news reports that explains what happened between the last days you were out with a map . Little thing to make you follow
John27 Dec 4, 2020 @ 5:15am 
Originally posted by ChristIceman:
Well unless the dev tell where conquest fall in the story it will still can do some speculation.

The campaign is good but it missing something some aspect to it, yes the file are fun to read but you also want to experience it in the gameplay and after mission reports, that one negative I have with this game we dont get enough context like in between missions. I do hope they make a dlc or even a second game out of this and go deeper. So many idea can come up from it. So many campaign ideas. You can explore the federation side of thing, you can continue the monarch aspect of the story, visit the rest of the world. Fighting in anothers country while the war in Cascadia keep going.
Of course all sort of ideas can add to it, but unfortunately am not a game Dev and I Dont have the smartness of working code and building missions and all that. But I do have a vivid imagination and even with the ace combat games I did this mentally aswell.
I do hope the dev think about adding more after fixing the bugs, but honestly I am enjoying myself more here than in ace combat 7, even if ace combat 7 look amazing the story is one to sleep on, this game story good but need to be fleshes up and expanded, more information between missions that can be done with a extra options of voiced news reports that explains what happened between the last days you were out with a map . Little thing to make you follow

Yup Ace Combat 7 story jumps focus to the mechanic and the enemy scientist and they ramble anything to dump the plot in. Some liked the characters due to being intriguing while others like me didn't really like it because it took away the focus from the main character (and heck the squadmates are very underdeveloped - a problem endemic since Ace Combat 4 that had been fixed in 5 and Zero!)

Project Wingman is like Ace Combat without the cutscenes (apart from one poorly-made cutscene around 75% in the game consisting of a security cam feed), which is on one hand, feels more immersive as you never will see the other perspective of the war, but on the other hand, the plot might feels shallow.
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Date Posted: Dec 3, 2020 @ 11:41am
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