ADF?

[Eternalace11]

Is this getting any player usable fictional aircraft like the adf series or the x series of planes from ace combat?

[Profile_Name]

Maybe, but I don't think it would be the ones from Ace Combat, the devs would have to create their own fictional planes, unless they get permission from Bamco.

[Eternalace11]

Thats what i meant to say i must have misspoke. I was just wonder if we where getting fictional aircraft. I meant to use those as examples not that i wanted them in here.

[BCGaius]

Well... there's the YF-23. Because for some reason these games are obsessed with a prototype trial aircraft that never actually entered service. So it's basically fictional. :p

[H1tSc4n]

There is a weird canard-delta wing F22 in game that i am pretty sure does not exist. So there is at least one.

[JtDarth]

Originally posted by BCGaius:

Well... there's the YF-23. Because for some reason these games are obsessed with a prototype trial aircraft that never actually entered service. So it's basically fictional. :p

Yes, totally not like the trials that were done showcased equivalent performance to the F-22 and that it was basically rejected because of backroom bribes and 'it looked weird'.

[BCGaius]

Originally posted by JtDarth:

Yes, totally not like the trials that were done showcased equivalent performance to the F-22 and that it was basically rejected because of backroom bribes and 'it looked weird'.

What does that have to do with anything? Next you're going to tell me you're a Commanche and XM8 fanboy too. It's a prototype that's collecting dust in a museum somewhere (which I guess is better than the Su-37).

[Eternalace11]

Everyone should relax. Its a video game what happened in real life to a weapon or a aircraft doesnt happen in the game. It was a comparable plane to the yf-22 when they tested them so it can exist in the game world

[boris.glevrk]

Originally posted by JtDarth:

Originally posted by BCGaius:

Well... there's the YF-23. Because for some reason these games are obsessed with a prototype trial aircraft that never actually entered service. So it's basically fictional. :p

Yes, totally not like the trials that were done showcased equivalent performance to the F-22 and that it was basically rejected because of backroom bribes and 'it looked weird'.

Actually YF-23 showed SUPERIOR performance to F-22
But there was a catch: it was "potential" superior perfomance.
And since the budget is already hitting ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the USAF chose the cheaper, less surprise (as in, less delays, less budget overruns) F-22.

[JtDarth]

Originally posted by BCGaius:

Originally posted by JtDarth:

Yes, totally not like the trials that were done showcased equivalent performance to the F-22 and that it was basically rejected because of backroom bribes and 'it looked weird'.

What does that have to do with anything? Next you're going to tell me you're a Commanche and XM8 fanboy too. It's a prototype that's collecting dust in a museum somewhere (which I guess is better than the Su-37).

Ah, you are one of 'those' people. The ones who decide to label others with 'fanboy' for having a different view than you.

Quite literally, trials showed the YF-23 to be equivalent to the F-22 in performance. So, why, exactly, is it a strange concept that games set in a different earth, would adopt those prototypes as an actual combat plane? OR even that those based on our earth, would revisit the design down the line?
Also was more than one prototype, both of which flew and performed quite well.

You are the one who called a plane 'fictional' on the basis that it never entered service, which is beyond illogical. It existed, and it went through the same testing as the YF-22, where it performed on par in most categories, with speed and stealth actually being better than the YF-22.
There is no reason to call it 'fictional' or act like including it in a flight game is out of the ordinary.

[Minkle]

There are fictional aircraft in the game, yes.

[Sedna]

There no YF-23 , The VX-23 is a hybrid between F-22 and J-20, show screenshot then if the F-23 is in the game

[BCGaius]

Originally posted by JtDarth:

Ah, you are one of 'those' people. The ones who decide to label others with 'fanboy' for having a different view than you.

Quite literally, trials showed the YF-23 to be equivalent to the F-22 in performance. So, why, exactly, is it a strange concept that games set in a different earth, would adopt those prototypes as an actual combat plane? OR even that those based on our earth, would revisit the design down the line?
Also was more than one prototype, both of which flew and performed quite well.

You are the one who called a plane 'fictional' on the basis that it never entered service, which is beyond illogical. It existed, and it went through the same testing as the YF-22, where it performed on par in most categories, with speed and stealth actually being better than the YF-22.
There is no reason to call it 'fictional' or act like including it in a flight game is out of the ordinary.

No, I label people with 'fanboy' for having an emotional attachment to a 30-year-old piece of experimental military technology. You know, the sort of person who reacts like I just personally insulted their mother when I make an off-hand joke about a prototype airplane no reasonable person has actually cared about since 1992.

Wait... there were two airframes built? My god, this changes everything. I'm going to have to rewrite all my YF-23 material. I had this whole set revolving around Black Widows being solitary creatures and everything. I'm ruined.

Also, please look up 'illogical.' It does not mean what you think it means.

[JtDarth]

Originally posted by BCGaius:

Originally posted by JtDarth:

Ah, you are one of 'those' people. The ones who decide to label others with 'fanboy' for having a different view than you.

Quite literally, trials showed the YF-23 to be equivalent to the F-22 in performance. So, why, exactly, is it a strange concept that games set in a different earth, would adopt those prototypes as an actual combat plane? OR even that those based on our earth, would revisit the design down the line?
Also was more than one prototype, both of which flew and performed quite well.

You are the one who called a plane 'fictional' on the basis that it never entered service, which is beyond illogical. It existed, and it went through the same testing as the YF-22, where it performed on par in most categories, with speed and stealth actually being better than the YF-22.
There is no reason to call it 'fictional' or act like including it in a flight game is out of the ordinary.

No, I label people with 'fanboy' for having an emotional attachment to a 30-year-old piece of experimental military technology. You know, the sort of person who reacts like I just personally insulted their mother when I make an off-hand joke about a prototype airplane no reasonable person has actually cared about since 1992.

Wait... there were two airframes built? My god, this changes everything. I'm going to have to rewrite all my YF-23 material. I had this whole set revolving around Black Widows being solitary creatures and everything. I'm ruined.

Also, please look up 'illogical.' It does not mean what you think it means.

You said that the plane was 'practically fictional' based on the fact that it wasn't adopted into military service. That lacks basic logic, as it did go through the same testing as the competitor that was accepted into service, and did in fact perform on par or better in almost everything.

There is no 'sound reasoning' in calling something 'fictional' when there are literally surviving examples and documentation of how it performed when looked at as a potential combat craft.

I did very much use 'illogical' correctly.


Also, again, labelling people as fanboys based simply on them not agreeing with you very much makes you look like the fool. YF-23 is pretty standard in action flight games, far from unknown to aviation fans, and generally, not something to fling insults at people over.


Quite literally, you used the fact that it wasn't accepted into service as a basis to refer to it as 'practically fictional', I mentioned that it had been tested and found equivalent, with non-performance reasons being why it wasn't chosen, and you IMMEDIATELY started calling me a fanboy for pointing that out.


At any rate, this is off-topic at this point, to say nothing of having devolved immediately into one side insulting the other just for pointing out facts.