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2024 年 8 月 23 日 上午 10:43
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Raiding: New Server Options
Progress update on our raiding improvements

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ejunkulator 2024 年 8 月 24 日 下午 10:01 
The current raid system has obviously cultivated a bunch of giant babies and bug users. they are enjoying the advantages from the current raid system and refusing to any optimizations, while ignoring the fact that PVP is dying in this game.

It only takes several hours to build a large and empty base, and they can happily be a roof camper without worrying about losing any gears. Then they will build a bunch of large and empty bases on each PVP servers. Even if he will only focus on playing one server in the future, he will refresh the empty bases in other servers every 7 days, occupying server resources without any costs. Others will drop frames when they get close to this kind of construction waste, and they can't get any loot by raiding in.

This kind of game-play is toxic and does not help the active PVP atmosphere. The number of online people on the PVP server has continued to be low in the recent 2 years, proving that the current raid system is a complete failure.

Not to mention packing up all the valuable gears and running offline after the base is activated, or moving to the base of a friend next door, and then using an activated base as bait to continue to be a roof camper. Currently, the official PVP servers with a large number of people are only 100, 102, 200, 300 which is 20% of all PVP servers, and players there basically no longer interest in raiding the base, but just shoot each other at the mission point, which causing more cheaters gathering.

For developers, if your new raid system is expected to bring more active PVP players, the group of giant babies who continue to complain in the community should be abandoned decisively. Ignore their opinions and promote the perfect game-play system in your mind. It costs few or nothing for them to comment on your works with keyboards, while you need to spend real money to maintain game development. If I were an investor, you would definitely be on the blacklist.

Make you choice, dev team. I love this game and I am interesting in Russian history, do as Putin, not think as Gorbachev.

I agree with this!!!!!
ejunkulator 2024 年 8 月 24 日 下午 10:03 
引用自 Cheech
I agree.
The Game dies, because of this giant babies are in charge.
Because of the devs are thinking the babies are the playerbase.
They are not.
They are just the only guys who like to play this toxic way.
The devs should develope their own game instead of doing a bunch of strange guys a favour, making the game even more toxic and boring.

The current raid system has obviously cultivated a bunch of giant babies and bug users. they are enjoying the advantages from the current raid system and refusing to any optimizations, while ignoring the fact that PVP is dying in this game.

Again, I am glad more people are seeing this and agreeing with it.

You have players with alt accounts who log in to create the base and then never log in again meaning you cannot raid that base no matter what... what a hell of an exploit.... all of the PvP servers are dead at this point minus peak times on Loafs Bakery and then its probably just the dudes with the gigantic bases using the exploit mentioned above... le sigh.
ejunkulator 2024 年 8 月 24 日 下午 10:04 
引用自 vRhino
This game is dead AF because raiding in this game is garbage. And all these comments about keeping the way it is aren't taking into account that the DEVS want people to actually play it. Its dead for a reason people. ffs


EXACTLY THIS!!!!
ejunkulator 2024 年 8 月 24 日 下午 10:11 
引用自 KIRIN STRONG

this game is deader than ever because of the direction the game is going in.

In my opinion, the PVP in this game is dying due to what it is now. I have played PVP here 3-5 hours in work days and 8-10 hours in holidays, the current raid system is toxic.

Again, this. I know of 6-7 people that would regularly play this game at least once a week if it wasn't for the current system and how dead the game is overall, steam charts reports ~500 players daily for quite some time now. I get on for about an hour at a time to run a couple of missions once a week or so but overall there isn't much to do because the PvP servers are either dead or full of a bunch of exploiters. Kinda explains why the game is where it is... I would like to see this game thrive as it has a lot of potential, just gotta take it in the correct direction that the devs are wanting to take it.. making it competitive with other games of this genre.
ejunkulator 2024 年 8 月 24 日 下午 10:17 
Well maybe it is worse that I realized, another giant loss of players in the last 30 days. Dang.

Month Avg. Players Gain % Gain Peak Players
Last 30 Days 368.6 -134.1 -26.68% 795
KIRIN STRONG 2024 年 8 月 24 日 下午 10:58 
They're alienating 90% of their player base to cater to 15 y/o rust sweats. I don't see the appeal for someone who has a life. How is grinding harder so you can get offline raided while your asleep or at work more fun?? The reason the game is at its all time low is because of these update announcements.
Spook 2024 年 8 月 25 日 上午 12:21 
THE DEVS SAY THEY LISTEN TO OUR FEEDBACK BUT THIS IS NOT TRUE, 95% OF PLAYERS WANT THE RAID SYSTEM TO BE LEFT ALONE KEEP THE RAID TOKENS AND HAVE ONLINE RAIDING ONLY,

NOW THIS GAME ONLY HAS ABOUT 300 ACTIVE PLAYERS SO THAT MEANS ABOUT 285 PLAYERS WANT IT TO KEEP THE RAID TOKEN WHICH WASNT EVEN GIVEN TO US AS AN OPTION.

ABOUT 15 PLAYERS WANT ONLINE RAIDING EITHER ALL THE TIME OR WITH BASE DECAY WHICH IS OPTION 1 AND 3

OPTION 2 NOBODY WANTS IT

THE DEVS GIVE US THE CHOICE OUT OF THE 3 MOST UNWANTED OPTIONS = THEY DO NOT LISTEN TO COMMUNITY FEEDBACK BUT THEY SAY THEY DO WHICH IS LIES BECAUSE THEIR WORDS MEAN NOTHING WHEN THEIR ACTIONS SHOW US THEY DO NOT LISTEN

ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS

IF THE DEVS TRUELY CARE ABOUT THIS GAME AND ITS 300 PLAYERS THEN THEY SHOULD LISTEN TO WHAT 95% OF THE PLAYERS WANT AND LEAVE THE RAID TOKEN IN THE GAME, WHO CARES IF A FEW PEOPLE HAVE ALT ACCOUNTS ITS ONLY A SMALL MAJORITY OF PLAYERS THAT DO THAT SO WHY COMPLETELY CHANGE THE GAME JUST BECAUSE A FEW PLAYERS ARE USING ALT ACCOUNTS? THE DEVS DO NOT REALISE NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO THE PLAYERS WILL ALWAYS FIND A WAY AROUND IT TO HELP THEM KEEP LOOT SAFE FROM RAIDS SO THE DEVS ARE WASTING THEIR TIME AND RUINING THE GAME BY CHANGING THE CURRENT RAID TOKEN SYSTEM, NOT ONLY ARE THEY RUINING THE GAME BUT THEY ARE ALSO GETTING RID OF WHAT MAKES DEADSIDE UNIQUE THE RAID TOKEN!!! THIS IS THE ONLY GAME THAT HAS THIS SYSTEM AND NOW THE DEVS WANT TO GET RID OF IT SO DEADSIDE IS NO LONGER A UNIQUE GAME AND JUST BECOMES EXACTLY LIKE DAYZ, RUST, SCUM ECT... BUT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS DEADSIDE CAN NOT COMPETE AGAINST THOSE OTHER GAMES PEOPLE WILL JUST PLAY THOSE OTHER GAMES.

DEADSIDE USED TO BE EXCITING TO SEE HOW THEY WILL DEVOLOP WHAT WAS POTENTIALLY A GREAT GAME, BUT NOW THEY HAVE DECIDED TO RUIN IT INSTEAD.

DEVS PLEASE DONT RUIN THE GAME BY GETTING RID OF THE RAID TOKEN AND JUST FOCUS ON WORKING ON BRINGING IN CARS AND VEHICLES AND EXPANDING THE MAP DOWN IN THE SOUTH EAST.

WE SEE WHATS GOING ON DOWN THERE ON SOUTH EAST CORNER OF MAP YOU CANT HIDE IT, I SEE THAT AIR FIELD THAT IS CLEARLY IN DEVELOPMENT, FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION ON BUILDING THE AIR FIELD AND THE VEHICLES AND EVERYONE WILL BE HAPPY AGAIN, PUT YOUR TIME AND EFFORT INTO MAKING MORE POI ON THE MAP AND MORE INTERESTING THINGS TO DO ON THE MAP, IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE RAID TOKEN EVERYONE WILL LEAVE THE GAME THAT HASNT ALREADY APART FROM THE 15 PLAYERS THAT WILL STILL PLAY JUST FOR PVP THAT DONT CARE ABOUT BASES AT ALL.

LEARN FROM THE MISTAKES OF OTHER GAMES LIKE FARLIGHT 84, THE THING THAT MADE THAT GAME UNIQUE WAS THE JETPACK MOVEMENT, THEY GOT RID OF IT AND ALL THE PLAYERS LEFT THE GAME BECAUSE THE DEVS DID NOT LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY, DEADSIDE WILL SUFFER THE SAME FATE IF THE DEVS DO NOT LISTEN
最后由 Spook 编辑于; 2024 年 8 月 25 日 上午 12:29
BilyCZ 2024 年 8 月 25 日 上午 12:32 
@Spook not true. Even if you using caps.
Spook 2024 年 8 月 25 日 上午 12:41 
引用自 BilyCZ
@Spook not true. Even if you using caps.
CAPS WAS ON AND I ALREADY WROTE SO MUCH IN ABOUT 3 MINS I DIDNT WANT TO RE WRITE IT ALL AGAIN SO I JUST KEPT TYPING IN CAPS, IT WAS ALL WRITTEN OUT AND THE PARAGRAPHING AND SPELLING CORRECTION WAS DONE AFTER, IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE IF ITS IN CAPS OR NOT ANYWAY IM SURE YOU CAN STILL READ IT, UNLESS CAPS IS A FOREIGN LANGUAGE TO YOU AND THEY ONLY TAUGHT YOU HOW TO READ LOWER CASE AT SCHOOL THEN MY APOLOGIES IM SORRY YOU CANT READ IT, BUT EVERYONE ELSE CAN SO GET OVER IT
最后由 Spook 编辑于; 2024 年 8 月 25 日 上午 12:43
Ожог 2024 年 8 月 25 日 上午 4:29 
引用自 DarkMyrlok
Рейды должны быть разрешены всегда. Это логично и интересно
Это тебе не Раст где ты можешь отследить нападают ли на твою базу . В этой игре нет еще баланса так как ты в не сети и ты просто остаешься без базы когда тебя нет . вот когда ТЫ в игре находишься ПОЖАЛУЙСТА РЕЙДЬ НА ЗДОРОВЬЕ .
cks334 2024 年 8 月 25 日 上午 5:32 
You should make it where bases are raidable when you are online and add a 15-30 min timer to it so you cannot combat log during a raid. I think this solves the problem. Everyone's base is vulnerable, its online (fair), and if they log off you still have 30 mins to finish.
bino 2024 年 8 月 25 日 上午 5:36 
引用自 Vandheer Lorde
引用自 DarkMyrlok
Рейды должны быть разрешены всегда. Это логично и интересно
Это тебе не Раст где ты можешь отследить нападают ли на твою базу . В этой игре нет еще баланса так как ты в не сети и ты просто остаешься без базы когда тебя нет . вот когда ТЫ в игре находишься ПОЖАЛУЙСТА РЕЙДЬ НА ЗДОРОВЬЕ .
ну и чем эт отличается от рейд жетонов?
Raven 2024 年 8 月 25 日 上午 5:55 
引用自 ejunkulator
引用自 Cheech
I agree.
The Game dies, because of this giant babies are in charge.
Because of the devs are thinking the babies are the playerbase.
They are not.
They are just the only guys who like to play this toxic way.
The devs should develope their own game instead of doing a bunch of strange guys a favour, making the game even more toxic and boring.

Again, I am glad more people are seeing this and agreeing with it.

You have players with alt accounts who log in to create the base and then never log in again meaning you cannot raid that base no matter what... what a hell of an exploit.... all of the PvP servers are dead at this point minus peak times on Loafs Bakery and then its probably just the dudes with the gigantic bases using the exploit mentioned above... le sigh.

The devs can counter that with a team register option to give everyone ownership of that specific base and therefore they won't be able to build other bases, and each should have a raid token. Not rocket science.
ejunkulator 2024 年 8 月 25 日 上午 10:02 
引用自 Raven
引用自 ejunkulator

Again, I am glad more people are seeing this and agreeing with it.

You have players with alt accounts who log in to create the base and then never log in again meaning you cannot raid that base no matter what... what a hell of an exploit.... all of the PvP servers are dead at this point minus peak times on Loafs Bakery and then its probably just the dudes with the gigantic bases using the exploit mentioned above... le sigh.

The devs can counter that with a team register option to give everyone ownership of that specific base and therefore they won't be able to build other bases, and each should have a raid token. Not rocket science.

Apparently it is rocket science if they haven't been able to combat this exploited system yet. You must be one of the people using this then, huh.
ejunkulator 2024 年 8 月 25 日 上午 10:04 
引用自 Cheech
If they can't find good arguments, they will search for errors in the text!
By the way:
That's typical Deadside too!
If they dont like (or understand) your opinion, they call you a bad player.
:-))

For my part i don't like raids and i never do, but i understand, that it is part of the game.
For me the most annoying problem of the game is the fact, that everyone i kill, comes back within 60 seconds to fight for his dead body.
You can't win against groups even if you are better, because they rush as freshies like in a bad zombie movie!
I don't care for the changes in raidsystem, i'm looking forward to the deletion of this crappy respawn-points.
THEN (MAYBE) and when there is more to do than looking for nails, i will play again.

@BilyCZ
My native language is german, so if you find an error, you can keep it!
;-)


引用自 Spook
CAPS WAS ON AND I ALREADY WROTE SO MUCH IN ABOUT 3 MINS I DIDNT WANT TO RE WRITE IT ALL AGAIN SO I JUST KEPT TYPING IN CAPS, IT WAS ALL WRITTEN OUT AND THE PARAGRAPHING AND SPELLING CORRECTION WAS DONE AFTER, IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE IF ITS IN CAPS OR NOT ANYWAY IM SURE YOU CAN STILL READ IT, UNLESS CAPS IS A FOREIGN LANGUAGE TO YOU AND THEY ONLY TAUGHT YOU HOW TO READ LOWER CASE AT SCHOOL THEN MY APOLOGIES IM SORRY YOU CANT READ IT, BUT EVERYONE ELSE CAN SO GET OVER IT

This too, I had a 15 minute battle over dead bodies before I just gave up because it was a war of attrition at that point... another point that needs to be fixed although it has been recently addressed... you shouldn't be able to contest it that easily without a sleeping bag close by or something to that effect.
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