should start at level 1 trader, 100 scrap to level 2, 200 scrap to level 3

[Radonator]

u guys way off u cant buy ♥♥♥♥ at level 1, takes real time days to find 100 scrap u crazy this setup.
rep should get from killing ppl n bots. n animals. more for knife, more for long distance shots etc. wtf's this st00pid collect scrap metal there aint 10 of on whole map smh u guys put it out this way..

[DevilUponUs]

i agree, its too much of a grind

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by DevilUponUs:

i agree, its too much of a grind

Grind seems to be the focus of certain aspects of the game now, while other things such as finding low tier gear has become way too easy. The balance is off.

We have to really grind to get trader levels instead of just making the good stuff really expensive or limiting the quantity available.

We have to sit in one spot and grind to harvest materials (wood/sicks) for low tier base upkeep which is just annoying and boring. Gets far worse when you have a real base and need to grind for specific materials that aren't necessarily easy to find.

We also have to grind specific materials just to make some of the most basic stuff that was quite easy to make pre-1.0.

[Pho' Bich Nga]

Medium base/mid tier is easy to upkeep once you have power and wood planer machine.
High tier metal base is what I'm worrying about. Finding/converting metal is such a headache.
This is in a max loot server, imagine in an official or normal loot server......
You could horde all the knives and guns into scrap but that's nothing compared to what the upkeep needs.

You need a team to keep a metal base functioning. There's no way to solo a metal base.
A planks base you can.

[Rusty Bladez]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

Originally posted by DevilUponUs:

i agree, its too much of a grind

Grind seems to be the focus of certain aspects of the game now, while other things such as finding low tier gear has become way too easy. The balance is off.

We have to really grind to get trader levels instead of just making the good stuff really expensive or limiting the quantity available.

We have to sit in one spot and grind to harvest materials (wood/sicks) for low tier base upkeep which is just annoying and boring. Gets far worse when you have a real base and need to grind for specific materials that aren't necessarily easy to find.

We also have to grind specific materials just to make some of the most basic stuff that was quite easy to make pre-1.0.

It's like they believe if you want a base then you can't do missions...you have to grind for all the materials for the upkeep. I built a base today and had to destroy two walls. It took about ten minutes and I trashed an axe. They really need to adjust a lot of things

[Pho' Bich Nga]

Use the hammer with upgrade/maintenance function to dismantle buildings. Not with axes.

Talking about grind for rep points, I found that 100 reps takes about 2-3 hours if you're going to the right places (scrap deposits, power line towers and abandoned cars)
If you visit the city there're tonnes of cigarettes around where each gives out 10 rep points if you sell them to roaming trader.
I got to lvl 2 in 2 days.

[Rusty Bladez]

Originally posted by W203 C55 AMG:

Use the hammer with upgrade/maintenance function to dismantle buildings. Not with axes.

Talking about grind for rep points, I found that 100 reps takes about 2-3 hours if you're going to the right places (scrap deposits, power line towers and abandoned cars)
If you visit the city there're tonnes of cigarettes around where each gives out 10 rep points if you sell them to roaming trader.
I got to lvl 2 in 2 days.

When I equip the hammer it doesn't give me any option but to upgrade. The only way I can destroy it is with the axe.

[🇵🇹kalula.Sousa🇵🇹]

Now imagine that in 3 months there will be a wipe again, hahaha

[Victor_Whiskey]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

Originally posted by DevilUponUs:

The balance is off.

Yes, in some ways it's off. I'd like to sell mobiles, cigarettes and watches to the stationary traders, not just scrap metal. Building reputation lasts long, while I'm at 70000 credits already. However, for new players it's not a "grind" but getting around and learning the game.
Reputation from kills wouldn't work with the traders, because (I think) they don't care... ;-)
Such reputation would be something for "sidequests" or in general questgivers around the map, like "kill 5 wolves" and you'll receive XYZ...
I made that proposal way ago when it was still unclear where the 1.0 is headed. Now we know that base building is "everything", so it's the way it is.
BTW, the stats say that less than a third of players has build their first base (including myself).

[Radonator]

so the pop-up trader buys cigs watches an mobile phones? anything else go towards rep with him?.
at 10pts each?, thats alot better than 1pt per scrap to regular trader. thats a wacko system, not nearly enough scrap metal around for even a few players to level. and all the machines take scrap metal also, u need them so .. no rep points.

level 1 100 scrap, level 2 600?, level 3 1000 but then u can buy a stalker, but wow a 1000pts?? whats level 4 buy all things? 2000 right?. doh

true, people arent building.., an upkeep isnt that bad, stock up that storage cabinet an keeps base standing for like a week its alot of chopping but u want a base its not too bad.
keeps never-come-backs from lagging out server with bases everydamwhere. it kinda works.

the vehicle upkeep system, on the other hand is terrible, its impossible to find enough oil & plugs to keep a vehicle very long.
its 2nd only to WAAAAAAAAAAATER, i searched for that stuff everywhere I went an could only get it up to 24 hours, u dont find that nice red toolbox outside of bunkers epics maybe that works mo betta but u got the gear for those missions?. not really.
its oil n plugs for most especially starting out, and thats not working out..
problem is how many of those it uses for a day. its alot, theyre just off on that.

why is it plugs?. or machinery oil? just weird, if u wanna use those, it needs to be alot less it uses per day.. like alot. less.
or use something else, like a battery charger, or change batterys.
tire inflator., tires go low and wear out. i donno.. ideas?

agreed an thought same about other things could build rep pts with trader/s.
like quality or condition of weps & stuff u bring in, how much u spend there an on what.

..an traders.. can ya add subtitles in English? whats they saying?