base gone!

[SeZaR]

after update played for 4-5 hours made my base while going to missions and coming back saw some walls disapear.. so i build metal walls. build everything. logged off came back 11 hours latter and there was nothing left but my sleeping bag! so why build base that doesnt last!?

[Stryker]

Build a Mechanic`s Workbench and store material inside it to keep ur base from decaying.

[nick]

Because theres an upkeep....read what the base items do.

[Rusty Bladez]

Get ready to do a lot of foraging for materials to keep your base. Add a vehicle? Even more foraging

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by Rusty Bladez:

Get ready to do a lot of foraging for materials to keep your base. Add a vehicle? Even more foraging

Not sure what you think about upkeep but I'm not super keen on it... makes us grind resources and that's super boring. I think they made some mistakes with 1.0, this change being one of them.

[DUMAL]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

Originally posted by Rusty Bladez:

Get ready to do a lot of foraging for materials to keep your base. Add a vehicle? Even more foraging

Not sure what you think about upkeep but I'm not super keen on it... makes us grind resources and that's super boring. I think they made some mistakes with 1.0, this change being one of them.

Learn how to play the game. Do some research and apply the knowledge acquired before crying

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by DUMAL:

Originally posted by Macdallan:

Not sure what you think about upkeep but I'm not super keen on it... makes us grind resources and that's super boring. I think they made some mistakes with 1.0, this change being one of them.

Learn how to play the game. Do some research and apply the knowledge acquired before crying

First of all no one's crying. No need to accuse people of crying either. Knock it off.

You responded to my post to tell me need how to learn how to play the game? I think maybe you meant to respond to the OP because what you said doesn't really relate to what I said at all but since you responded directly to me I feel the need to address what you wrote.

I have learned how to play the game and I find that the gameplay is generally quite simple. I have experienced this specific mechanic in the game and based on my experience with it, and with the game prior to it being added, I don't think they needed to add base upkeep to the game.

Now, if you like standing in one spot watching your screen shake for long periods of time while you harvest logs or sticks for base upkeep then good for you, I'm happy you managed to find the fun in holding your LMB while staring at a tree or a shrub. I don't find that kind of gameplay very engaging and would prefer if they would remove the need for it.

[Stestorm [SCO]]

I feel the upkeeps a little on the high side..especially if you have a bigger sized base..you pretty much need thousands of materials for each day so you dont loose it..hopefully they will lower the amount needed because if not its gonna put of players

[Hypnosis]

It takes 5 minutes to farm the materials. Cry me a river.

[Ribalder]

theyre way off balance they just dumped in all kinds a things and new systems. obviously nothing was tested. its pretty bad so were the testers tell em about it I will.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3379682066
ye build a ^cabinet^ for keeping base upkeep. least it does it automatically and u dont have to go repair each panel. seen that method before.
and wood is like 4 logs per axe chop and planer makes 4 planks from each log. not hard. look at cabinet an it tells u right there how many days it will stay an not decay depending on how much sticks & planks u put in there. fill it up, I had a 2 story pretty decent size place an garage it said 13 day to decay. also not hard.

where I feel theyre way off is what Ive been saying- they already went thru all the prices and cut the loot so bad and what its worth well they did again its even worse.
what was worth something got cut more & prices at trader got raised again more! Prices are More than Insane.
anyways there aint no nothing to buy before u find the incredibly short in supply 100 of scrap metal. at 1 or 2 at a time all over. were talking days hours its not good. not even close. get a few people on a server much less 10-20-50 an whoa no not nearly enough. and u need it in large quantities to build all the new machinery. its gotta be tweaked I know not too easy but u made it part of so much so many things its just not enough. and u know what level 2 at trader costs in this crap metal?. 500. DOOOHHHH.
camon wtffffffffffffffffff

so a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hundred scrap metal to level 1 at trader just to buy SOME ♥♥♥♥, SOME ammo, not 556 or above just shotgun & bb 19 ♥♥♥♥.
an NOOO not even the basic used to buy there 2x hunting scope.
so have fun even against regular bots no scope. forget a heli crash an F no missions not even easy.
with the ever more increased (horribly too much) hunger thirst and no backpack space left after u carry all the needed food and water your first (many) days are spent battling the regular bots for 1 or 2 scrap metal with their same mile away magic shots, thru trees etc with basic same as guns they have, and a note- shotguns damage has been cut like in half. whatever it says it dont kill nearly like it used to, even the 10 shot 590 like 5-6 shots close range for a no-armor regular bot, an ye, I got shot up pretty bad. annnnnnnnnnnd...
I cant carry no damn loot!! and the loot aint worth ♥♥♥♥!
an dont matter cos u need to spend u first 999,000 days in game going after SCRAP METALLLLLLLL!!

building aint so bad
boats, vehicles good job as far as Im concerned.. if u can find one. gas mileage in boat is bad really bad- tweak that back towards what it was, I thought it was realistic a lil ol outboard, nows like a v8 mileage.
cars bikes fuel usage seems Ok havent really driven ridden that much that far, but boat I know. that burns too much fuel too fast. pls dial it back a bit- more mileage, less usage.
generator- seems about right gas usage.

an what they did to backpacks before has been made even worse.
u need a backpack. its a survival game man. need more backpacks like the other games why do I have to tell u this copy-of-scum dudes look at all their backpacks wtf is with u backpacks cant do nothing carry nothing have a decent backpack for all the ♥♥♥♥ u want us to carry hells no they aint out there lying around, hells no they aint in campgrounds or on bots or helis they only a crap one in hards, an typhoon or stalker on epics one in a million chance FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.
ok now read below guaranteed some1 says
"stalkers can be found everywhere, and on epic and hard missions and all ovvveeerrrr" pfffffttttttttt

[Rusty Bladez]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

Originally posted by Rusty Bladez:

Get ready to do a lot of foraging for materials to keep your base. Add a vehicle? Even more foraging

Not sure what you think about upkeep but I'm not super keen on it... makes us grind resources and that's super boring. I think they made some mistakes with 1.0, this change being one of them.

OH, I agree 110% with you on this. Not only is it boring but if someone has limited time to play the last thing they want to do with their available time is grind for resources when they could be running missions...shooting and looting.

[Rusty Bladez]

Originally posted by Ribalder:

theyre way off balance they just dumped in all kinds a things and new systems. obviously nothing was tested. its pretty bad so were the testers tell em about it I will.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3379682066
ye build a ^cabinet^ for keeping base upkeep. least it does it automatically and u dont have to go repair each panel. seen that method before.
and wood is like 4 logs per axe chop and planer makes 4 planks from each log. not hard. look at cabinet an it tells u right there how many days it will stay an not decay depending on how much sticks & planks u put in there. fill it up, I had a 2 story pretty decent size place an garage it said 13 day to decay. also not hard.

where I feel theyre way off is what Ive been saying- they already went thru all the prices and cut the loot so bad and what its worth well they did again its even worse.
what was worth something got cut more & prices at trader got raised again more! Prices are More than Insane.
anyways there aint no nothing to buy before u find the incredibly short in supply 100 of scrap metal. at 1 or 2 at a time all over. were talking days hours its not good. not even close. get a few people on a server much less 10-20-50 an whoa no not nearly enough. and u need it in large quantities to build all the new machinery. its gotta be tweaked I know not too easy but u made it part of so much so many things its just not enough. and u know what level 2 at trader costs in this crap metal?. 500. DOOOHHHH.
camon wtffffffffffffffffff

so a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hundred scrap metal to level 1 at trader just to buy SOME ♥♥♥♥, SOME ammo, not 556 or above just shotgun & bb 19 ♥♥♥♥.
an NOOO not even the basic used to buy there 2x hunting scope.
so have fun even against regular bots no scope. forget a heli crash an F no missions not even easy.
with the ever more increased (horribly too much) hunger thirst and no backpack space left after u carry all the needed food and water your first (many) days are spent battling the regular bots for 1 or 2 scrap metal with their same mile away magic shots, thru trees etc with basic same as guns they have, and a note- shotguns damage has been cut like in half. whatever it says it dont kill nearly like it used to, even the 10 shot 590 like 5-6 shots close range for a no-armor regular bot, an ye, I got shot up pretty bad. annnnnnnnnnnd...
I cant carry no damn loot!! and the loot aint worth ♥♥♥♥!
an dont matter cos u need to spend u first 999,000 days in game going after SCRAP METALLLLLLLL!!

building aint so bad
boats, vehicles good job as far as Im concerned.. if u can find one. gas mileage in boat is bad really bad- tweak that back towards what it was, I thought it was realistic a lil ol outboard, nows like a v8 mileage.
cars bikes fuel usage seems Ok havent really driven ridden that much that far, but boat I know. that burns too much fuel too fast. pls dial it back a bit- more mileage, less usage.
generator- seems about right gas usage.

an what they did to backpacks before has been made even worse.
u need a backpack. its a survival game man. need more backpacks like the other games why do I have to tell u this copy-of-scum dudes look at all their backpacks wtf is with u backpacks cant do nothing carry nothing have a decent backpack for all the ♥♥♥♥ u want us to carry hells no they aint out there lying around, hells no they aint in campgrounds or on bots or helis they only a crap one in hards, an typhoon or stalker on epics one in a million chance FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.
ok now read below guaranteed some1 says
"stalkers can be found everywhere, and on epic and hard missions and all ovvveeerrrr" pfffffttttttttt

We played SCUM religiously for about 3 to 4 years and the one thing I liked about (and still do) was the tool boxes for repairing your base. That way you could find them when you were out shooting and looting, not specifically looking for resources to fix your base. Then with the toolbox not only could they be used to fix the base they fixed other items as well(bullet proof vests, helmets, etc..)

[Rusty Bladez]

Originally posted by Hypnosis:

It takes 5 minutes to farm the materials. Cry me a river.

If you base is branches or a small one when it's wooden planks to make them. If it's metal there's no way. Then add the resources for keeping a vehicle and now I'd say your lying. There's no way you can gather the materials for this in 5 minutes...unless your base is extremely small.

[bacca400-stm]

Originally posted by Rusty Bladez:

Get ready to do a lot of foraging for materials to keep your base. Add a vehicle? Even more foraging

Yikes, I don't like grind and I cannot just start playing the game any time I want, my schedule for free time varies a lot.

[Stano]

Originally posted by Rusty Bladez:

Originally posted by Hypnosis:

It takes 5 minutes to farm the materials. Cry me a river.

If you base is branches or a small one when it's wooden planks to make them. If it's metal there's no way. Then add the resources for keeping a vehicle and now I'd say your lying. There's no way you can gather the materials for this in 5 minutes...unless your base is extremely small.

stick with planks base then. storage cabinet keeps up your base. all it takes is planks. make planks at saw mills if you dont have your own saw at the base yet. you can turn scrap metal, weapons and other items into metal sheets in metal planer bench. all you gonna grind at first are nails for that plank base.

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by Hypnosis:

It takes 5 minutes to farm the materials.

Except it doesn't if you have anything beyond a tiny shack made out of low tier materials, and grinding just for upkeep for even 5 minutes means you're just standing in one spot swinging at a shrub or a tree... not exactly engaging gameplay.