Private Dedicated Servers

[ManBrosky]

Deadside is moving to a new dedicated server host but still no talks of ever releasing the tools for people to host their own private dedicated servers?
More than mildly frustrating...
It's not like they need to release a full suite or anything. Literally just release the bare minimum required to host a server and trust me, us server admins will figure out how to make it work ;)

[Memphis]

Guys, you still don't get it. The future of gaming is not dedicated server files for the people. The new rule, almost a law, is:

We don't own the games we buy.

This is not a deadsied thing, it's the general trend.

Renting servers is a source to make cash. And that's the was it works: Somebody wants cash, the find a way to make cash, they do it.

You can't grab money from people if they own what they want to have.

[Kirkram]

I gave up on them a long time ago. I run a server for DayZ that has had well over 30,000 players and I always thought this would be a nice change compliment. But no way would I pay to host when I own hardware in a datacenter. Makes no sense. Especially as the game is just kind of meh. At least it's not expensive!

[evalegacy]

Originally posted by Oralapostel:

Guys, you still don't get it. The future of gaming is not dedicated server files for the people. The new rule, almost a law, is:

We don't own the games we buy.

This is not a deadsied thing, it's the general trend.

Renting servers is a source to make cash. And that's the was it works: Somebody wants cash, the find a way to make cash, they do it.

You can't grab money from people if they own what they want to have.

What you're referring to is "Live Service" games. It became very relevant, with battle royale games like H1Z1, Fortnite, APEX and other FPS genres like CS and COD. It has since risen in popularity in newer games that have regularly cycling events and updated digital merchandise alongside these events. Yes, it is a plague! However, these games are particularly designed to generate revenue from the purchases of added content, like DLCs or in-game loot boxes and skins; something Deadside doesn't do.

While these games are available on Steam, the majority of games available on Steam, including Deadside, actually do not fall into the Live Service category. In fact, the vast majority of FPS games similar to Deadside have files available for dedicated server; all the reason why they should be available for this game too. The Live Service type of thing is mostly attributed to consoles, where a lot of content is/has been moving towards fully streaming instead of physical/downloaded content. In theory, this could happen with Steam (you can already stream games from your library across computers, or through GeForce Now) but isn't being pushed heavily in the PC gaming platform, especially not Steam.

It does appear this trend has peaked and reached a plateau end of 2024 in the gaming industry. Many publishers (including AAA studios) still trying this trend with games in the last quarter (unless it's a major and anticipated title) have significantly failed immediately after launch, losing hundreds of millions in work.

Secondly, unless Bad Pixel or a parent company has specifically made an agreement to receive a percentage of revenue from G-Portal (unable to find any concrete public information on this and G-Portal themselves claim it does not receive revenue from publishers for hosting their games) then it's likely not the reason why dedicated server files are not available. It's likely due to keeping certain information about the game private while still in development, or from being exploited to cheat or bypass anti-cheat on official servers. However, I wish we'd get an actual answer from Bad Pixel instead of being ignored completely!

[andeerock]

Originally posted by evalegacy:

Originally posted by Oralapostel:

Guys, you still don't get it. The future of gaming is not dedicated server files for the people. The new rule, almost a law, is:

We don't own the games we buy.

This is not a deadsied thing, it's the general trend.

Renting servers is a source to make cash. And that's the was it works: Somebody wants cash, the find a way to make cash, they do it.

You can't grab money from people if they own what they want to have.

What you're referring to is "Live Service" games. It became very relevant, with battle royale games like H1Z1, Fortnite, APEX and other FPS genres like CS and COD. It has since risen in popularity in newer games that have regularly cycling events and updated digital merchandise alongside these events. Yes, it is a plague! However, these games are particularly designed to generate revenue from the purchases of added content, like DLCs or in-game loot boxes and skins; something Deadside doesn't do.

While these games are available on Steam, the majority of games available on Steam, including Deadside, actually do not fall into the Live Service category. In fact, the vast majority of FPS games similar to Deadside have files available for dedicated server; all the reason why they should be available for this game too. The Live Service type of thing is mostly attributed to consoles, where a lot of content is/has been moving towards fully streaming instead of physical/downloaded content. In theory, this could happen with Steam (you can already stream games from your library across computers, or through GeForce Now) but isn't being pushed heavily in the PC gaming platform, especially not Steam.

It does appear this trend has peaked and reached a plateau end of 2024 in the gaming industry. Many publishers (including AAA studios) still trying this trend with games in the last quarter (unless it's a major and anticipated title) have significantly failed immediately after launch, losing hundreds of millions in work.

Secondly, unless Bad Pixel or a parent company has specifically made an agreement to receive a percentage of revenue from G-Portal (unable to find any concrete public information on this and G-Portal themselves claim it does not receive revenue from publishers for hosting their games) then it's likely not the reason why dedicated server files are not available. It's likely due to keeping certain information about the game private while still in development, or from being exploited to cheat or bypass anti-cheat on official servers. However, I wish we'd get an actual answer from Bad Pixel instead of being ignored completely!

Alex the CEO said it's because it opens it up to hackers on discord a few days ago. Get on there if you want info.

[Hitman006XP]

I just saw i video about Deadside and was very interested... but without server files to host my own dedicated server i won't buy this game. And i never did pay any hosting service a single EUR so far and don't plan to ever do so. DayZ Standalone would be dead if renting a server would be the only option. Release the server files and give this game a future. Otherwise it's already dead.

[DrCampAlot]

Originally posted by Hitman006XP:

I just saw i video about Deadside and was very interested... but without server files to host my own dedicated server i won't buy this game. And i never did pay any hosting service a single EUR so far and don't plan to ever do so. DayZ Standalone would be dead if renting a server would be the only option. Release the server files and give this game a future. Otherwise it's already dead.

i don't get it why people are so mad as if your own server won't cost money and you have free electricity.. lets say renting a server costs you 30-40 bucks and to host it on your own machine will cost you almost the same amount taking in count the PC+electricity

[AkaZaiko]

Originally posted by DrCampAlot:

Originally posted by Hitman006XP:

I just saw i video about Deadside and was very interested... but without server files to host my own dedicated server i won't buy this game. And i never did pay any hosting service a single EUR so far and don't plan to ever do so. DayZ Standalone would be dead if renting a server would be the only option. Release the server files and give this game a future. Otherwise it's already dead.

i don't get it why people are so mad as if your own server won't cost money and you have free electricity.. lets say renting a server costs you 30-40 bucks and to host it on your own machine will cost you almost the same amount taking in count the PC+electricity

no offense but dumbest take i've ever read, you're already running the pc to play the game running the server locally wont create any addition charge to your electricity bill. Paying $45 for a 30 day server is a very big charge. They promised local servers and now the game is fully released if they don't want to turn off the existing audience and bring in new people they should make good on that.

[DrCampAlot]

Originally posted by AkaZaiko:

Originally posted by DrCampAlot:

i don't get it why people are so mad as if your own server won't cost money and you have free electricity.. lets say renting a server costs you 30-40 bucks and to host it on your own machine will cost you almost the same amount taking in count the PC+electricity

no offense but dumbest take i've ever read, you're already running the pc to play the game running the server locally wont create any addition charge to your electricity bill. Paying $45 for a 30 day server is a very big charge. They promised local servers and now the game is fully released if they don't want to turn off the existing audience and bring in new people they should make good on that.

your pc runs 24/7 or you just want to light up the server whenever you want to play?

[Scooby Doo]

If you want to play Deadside but better on your own server there is a simple way.

1. Buy Dayz
2. Set up a Dayz Server for you and friends
3. Remove the Zombie and add the Expansion AI mod
4. Be warned Expansion AI are much smarter than Deadside AI

There you go Deadside with better AI, better Base Building, better PVP and PVE action. Better and more variety of vehicles!!!

If these devs want to continue to string along the community then we should simply move on to something bigger and better. With the Huge Mod Community for Dayz your can set up a server however you like. So many guides and people to help makes it easier.

I left the Deadside Discord when the Community Manager got butthurt over my askinga bout Dedi files. He said it would be a huge undertaking for the Devs. Yet they keep giving companies access, of course they make money on those deals we all know this.

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

Originally posted by Ron:

Have the Devs not said that hosting on your machine comes at v1.0?

Or did I dream that...

You are right.

[risen]

Came here because I was looking into the game and the maybe present dedicated server files - aaaand I'm out again, as there are none.

Originally posted by DrCampAlot:

Originally posted by AkaZaiko:

no offense but dumbest take i've ever read, you're already running the pc to play the game running the server locally wont create any addition charge to your electricity bill. Paying $45 for a 30 day server is a very big charge. They promised local servers and now the game is fully released if they don't want to turn off the existing audience and bring in new people they should make good on that.

your pc runs 24/7 or you just want to light up the server whenever you want to play?

I also am running a small community, and dedicated server files are essential for that: My homeserver is running anyways, hosting my smarthome, my surveillance, Teamspeak, websites, and of course other gameservers like Conan, Icarus, 7days, Satisfactory, PalWorld, Enshrouded, Valheim, .... I think you'll get the point.


@DEVs: Please deliver the files as promised, thank you.

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

I recommend asking a question on their discord, I can't anymore because they banned me, and I just asked

[DrCampAlot]

Originally posted by S.T.A.L.K.E.R:

I recommend asking a question on their discord, I can't anymore because they banned me, and I just asked

you got banned because you asked and you suggest us to do the same?

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

Originally posted by DrCampAlot:

Originally posted by S.T.A.L.K.E.R:

I recommend asking a question on their discord, I can't anymore because they banned me, and I just asked

you got banned because you asked and you suggest us to do the same?

Then you'll see if it makes sense to ask them about the server files, and the devs' approach to players. They calculated that they'd rather have a steady stream of money from companies renting servers than the well-being of players.

[DrCampAlot]

Originally posted by S.T.A.L.K.E.R:

Originally posted by DrCampAlot:

you got banned because you asked and you suggest us to do the same?

Then you'll see if it makes sense to ask them about the server files, and the devs' approach to players. They calculated that they'd rather have a steady stream of money from companies renting servers than the well-being of players.

well, their income comes first because without that there will be no game at all.. so i could understand