Please nerf wolves this is beyond insane

[Badawan]

No other monster in this game so far has given me this much a problem. Literally what can you do against three plus wolves that chase you til you die? Its literally instant deaths. One wolf? Easy. Two? Good luck. Three? Prepare to go get your items! I have not died more than I have today than any other day because its ONLY wolves. Even the damn bosses aren't as bad as wolves. Their attack speed is what truly needs the nerf. Make it at least not instantaneous.

I even had the deer power activated AND nearly 160 stamina and that STILL wasn't enough to survive. The game balance with wolves is so out of touch.

[The Dog]

atgeirs secondary attack will stun them. But before that find a place with even elevation so your attack actually connects.

[Badawan]

Originally posted by The Dog:

atgeirs secondary attack will stun them. But before that find a place with even elevation so your attack actually connects.

Does it have a AOE type attack? I can stun them if I can just block with the shield but they are way too fast to attack and even move for me to parry. I haven't used Atgeirs. I usually just use swords.

[Krieger]

try to get on something they can't reach you on n keep an eye out for spots for later, i think guck bombs might work well? (from a safe spot) was past before i tried, bow n arrow works great, stealth around bow em from range before they see you, after a while you'll work out how to parry them and then how to laugh in their faces.

i hear the atgeirs are great for AOE with it's broad swing

[Ultraviolent Catastrophe]

Atgeir alt attack is a spin. Battleaxe, mace and sword all can cleave multiple. Bow of course trivializes them via kiting. Jumping on rocks will screw with the AI. Spear and shield I've heard works well, but haven't personally gone for it as I loathe the spear on any sort of incline.

Wolves attack fast and do decent damage, but they are squishy and extremely easy to stagger.

[qwerm]

The atgeir power attack does indeed have cleave( no multi-target penalty), and is a godsend when managing large groups of mobs. You'll want to try and corral them into a group and time the swing so that it hits as many in the group as possible, preferably the entire group, plus it's often fast enough that you can power attack a second time in succession and get stagger bonus damage on everyone you just staggered, it also helps you manage many types of megafauna, though the abomination and stone golem are resistant to very resistant to pierce damage and starred mega fauna( particularly the berserker and seeker soldier), so you may not be able to reliably stunlock them until you get to the Eitr age.

[knighttemplar1960]

Wolves usually show up individually unless its night time (3 is the max during the day but its extremely rare to have 3 at once during the day). So stay out of the mountains at night. When you hear howling go into sneak mode and look around and see if you can spot the wolf. If you can your huntsman's bow with even wooden arrows should one shot it and the silence bonus from the huntsman's bow should prevent any additional wolves from alerting.

If you didn't notice or are getting the "you are being hunted" raid event then Bonemass forsaken power, an iron buckler and a one handed weapon or the iron atgeir.

[Sr. Ty Tuetas]

I cant wait until you meet deathsquitoes

[jonnin]

I get your frustration, but "how do you handle multiple wolves" is a good question. "I can't handle multiple wolves so nerf them" is a bad starting place... the game is supposed to have some challenges, and if you are dying to something, your first thought should be 'how can I handle these guys' not 'how can I get these guys nerfed'.

that aside..

block and swing works if your shield is good enough.

run and shoot works, if your archery skills are good enough (these guys are fast, so you gotta hit them and move on quickly)

as mentioned the heavily abused atgeir solves many problems in this game, but its a crutch IMHO. A powerful weapon, but you can do well with any weapon type in the game and if you rely on this strategy you will end up with a pierce weapon that is oft resisted (bosses and a few other enemy resist pierce) and your gamer-skills using non-stunning weapons may lag behind a bit. Use it, if you like, but learn a non-stunning weapon that does not do pierce damage as well.

if you can't block and smash nor kite & shoot, dealing with 3 of them before you have silver/mountain level armor is indeed going to be a challenge. They have low health but are faster and harder hitting than anything you have seen so far, as you clearly know now.
That leaves the smelly option of using the mountains terrain against them: they can't handle steep slopes and you can find a place to fight one on one or shoot them from safety with relative ease in the terrain. A pickax hit on the side of a sheer cliff will give you a tile to stand on and shoot from, and you can cut a cart path up the side of a mountain this way too (its slow going) but I prefer to just make hopping points where you jump up so many tiles and then rest, repeat. Only the drakes can get at you if you perch on the side of a steep wall, and those don't hit very hard if you resist frost.

[Badawan]

Originally posted by puttinitinmutton:

I cant wait until you meet deathsquitoes

Deathsquitos are child's play compared to multiple wolves. Can kill them easily.

[Nascarman]

Originally posted by Badawan:

Originally posted by puttinitinmutton:

I cant wait until you meet deathsquitoes

Deathsquitos are child's play compared to multiple wolves. Can kill them easily.

then how are you dying to 3 wolves, with plains gear they deal like 20 dmg

if you aren't at the mistlands yet, then an atgeir or iron sledge should do the job, otherwise the fire staff basically trivializes all enemies except for deathsquito or gjalls so that is by far the best weapon vs groups of wolves

[Badawan]

Originally posted by Nascarman:

Originally posted by Badawan:

Deathsquitos are child's play compared to multiple wolves. Can kill them easily.

then how are you dying to 3 wolves, with plains gear they deal like 20 dmg

if you aren't at the mistlands yet, then an atgeir or iron sledge should do the job, otherwise the fire staff basically trivializes all enemies except for deathsquito or gjalls so that is by far the best weapon vs groups of wolves

Because deathsquitoes dont attack you back to back in less than 1 second. You can stagger them with ease. Wolves on the other hand you can stagger them but not three at one time. You are basically getting a constant barrage of attacks given they are faster than you. They also chase you forever. We are working on silver gear currently. I got one piece left armor wise.

Plus it doesn't help the hitboxes are weird in this game when it comes to arrows. A few times I should have gotten sneak damage but the arrow went through them. Happens with blobs too.

Also more on deathsquitoes, their attack is usually easy to avoid. Theres a slight window delay before they strike despite them being way faster than you.

[Badawan]

Originally posted by jonnin:

I get your frustration, but "how do you handle multiple wolves" is a good question. "I can't handle multiple wolves so nerf them" is a bad starting place... the game is supposed to have some challenges, and if you are dying to something, your first thought should be 'how can I handle these guys' not 'how can I get these guys nerfed'.

that aside..

block and swing works if your shield is good enough.

run and shoot works, if your archery skills are good enough (these guys are fast, so you gotta hit them and move on quickly)

as mentioned the heavily abused atgeir solves many problems in this game, but its a crutch IMHO. A powerful weapon, but you can do well with any weapon type in the game and if you rely on this strategy you will end up with a pierce weapon that is oft resisted (bosses and a few other enemy resist pierce) and your gamer-skills using non-stunning weapons may lag behind a bit. Use it, if you like, but learn a non-stunning weapon that does not do pierce damage as well.

if you can't block and smash nor kite & shoot, dealing with 3 of them before you have silver/mountain level armor is indeed going to be a challenge. They have low health but are faster and harder hitting than anything you have seen so far, as you clearly know now.
That leaves the smelly option of using the mountains terrain against them: they can't handle steep slopes and you can find a place to fight one on one or shoot them from safety with relative ease in the terrain. A pickax hit on the side of a sheer cliff will give you a tile to stand on and shoot from, and you can cut a cart path up the side of a mountain this way too (its slow going) but I prefer to just make hopping points where you jump up so many tiles and then rest, repeat. Only the drakes can get at you if you perch on the side of a steep wall, and those don't hit very hard if you resist frost.

Usually I wouldn't say nerf a mob that causes me trouble. Not my style, however, this is a huge exception. Ive fought nearly all the monsters except mistlands and a few plains monsters. Out of all of them so far, wolves have caused me the most problems.

Truly, its not even that they do a lot of damage, its the attack rate and how if there is two or more, you can't really do much unless they split just right. It also doesn't help they climb up vertically which is weird.

[knighttemplar1960]

Originally posted by Badawan:

Originally posted by Nascarman:

then how are you dying to 3 wolves, with plains gear they deal like 20 dmg

if you aren't at the mistlands yet, then an atgeir or iron sledge should do the job, otherwise the fire staff basically trivializes all enemies except for deathsquito or gjalls so that is by far the best weapon vs groups of wolves

Because deathsquitoes dont attack you back to back in less than 1 second. You can stagger them with ease. Wolves on the other hand you can stagger them but not three at one time. You are basically getting a constant barrage of attacks given they are faster than you. They also chase you forever. We are working on silver gear currently. I got one piece left armor wise.

Plus it doesn't help the hitboxes are weird in this game when it comes to arrows. A few times I should have gotten sneak damage but the arrow went through them. Happens with blobs too.

Also more on deathsquitoes, their attack is usually easy to avoid. Theres a slight window delay before they strike despite them being way faster than you.

Some of what you believe is misconceptions. If a deahsdquito attacks and you dodge it attacks again immediately. Deathsquitos don't get staggered damage required to stagger then (which isn't much) will kill them. Deathsquitos are easy because they have little health and can be one shotted from range with pretty much any bow. They also have all most no ramge on their attacks. Timed properly you can swing a single handed weapon just before they arrive and they will be dead before their attack can resolve (which then does no damage).

Wolves are 50% more vulnerable to stagger. As long as you aren't fighting starrred wolves (which only appear at night so stay out of the mountains at night) upgraded iron gear is sufficient to handle even 3 wolves once you learn how wolves attack and how to defend against them. If you are up against 3 use your Bonemass forsaken power.

[Archdeacon Monseigneur]

sounds like a skill issue.
use a battle axe or crystal axe. cleave them down. they attack in packs.
use a shield, block their attacks.
use a bow, kill them at range during sneak.
use an iron sledge, splash them down.
use potions.

seriously, there's so many ways to kill packs of wolves.
if you think wolves are bad, wait till you get to plains and have to deal with the fulings and deathsquitos.

[Rhapsody]

Applying an axe to a wolf works just fine. Once you possess a black metal axe (and you will), you can take care of hunt events simply by chopping down a wolf with one hit, then turning about to resume the attack chain on another target, provided your attributes are high enough and you know how to pace yourself within your limits of stamina and stamina usage (as determined by your axe skill). High ranked wolves pose a bit more of a problem, but you can jump and climb while they cannot.