Better way to get copper/tin in the late game

[Lee23]

I don't wanna haul more of it from the black forest...

[Yakumo_2020]

I 100% agree with this sentiment.

As it is right now you have a few choices.
You could use the dev consol and spawn some copper/tin/bronze as needed or
use a mod that allows you to transport metals via portals or
have a second world you use as a drop point for metals. When you get where you need some metal, log out, log in to the drop point, pick up the metals needed, return to the main world.

Late game copper and tin are only needed for the upgrades to the crafting stations. Having to haul them from the nearest Black Forest just to have a forge at your Prrarie operations base so you can fix your black metal weapons without having to hope in a portal back to the main compound.

This is probably the #1 reason behind the complaints about the no metal through portals restriction. The reasons the devs gave for the restriction makes sense when your new to that metal, but once you move past a biom its a boring grind to got back into an old biom just to get some metal you only need to build a forge with.

Personally I use a mod to allow metals through portals, but with strict self imposed rules, only metals from bioms I have defeated the Boss for can be moved via portal and the metals must be in ingots, no ores. So I still have to find, mine, and smelt the metals but then moving it to where I want it is easy for the low tier stuff like Copper and Tin.

[Trakehner]

It takes maybe 10 minutes tops to gather enough for a forge. It's not that tedious.

IDK why do many people groan about it likes it's so torturous.

What other way to acquire those two resources would you suggest then? And how would you keep that alternate acquisitional method behind some sort of wall so new players couldn't bypass/exploit it?

[Mharr]

Publicado originalmente por Trakehner:

And how would you keep that alternate acquisitional method behind some sort of wall so new players couldn't bypass/exploit it?

Well that's easy, you gate the secondary source behind a late game biome that requires those resources to reach and survive in the first place.

[Lee23]

Publicado originalmente por Trakehner:

It takes maybe 10 minutes tops to gather enough for a forge. It's not that tedious.

IDK why do many people groan about it likes it's so torturous.

What other way to acquire those two resources would you suggest then? And how would you keep that alternate acquisitional method behind some sort of wall so new players couldn't bypass/exploit it?

Yes it’s easy to just take 6 bronze with you when you sail to setup a new base. However, you need a lot of copper and tin for various crafting upgrades, light sources, and cauldrons. It’s just boring going back into old biomes to get old resources, IMO.

[Lee23]

If you have a Black Forest that helps but you actually have to have a shoreline in there too and the willingness to spend time looking for stuff and hauling back and forth heavy materials. My suggestion is to have chests with copper and tin hidden underground in plains.

[Mharr]

That would certainly be a better treasure than two amber and some feathers or whatever.

[Yakumo_2020]

Publicado originalmente por Lee23:

If you have a Black Forest that helps but you actually have to have a shoreline in there too and the willingness to spend time looking for stuff and hauling back and forth heavy materials. My suggestion is to have chests with copper and tin hidden underground in plains.

+1 this idea.

or another option would be to have Copper, Tin, and Iron surface deposits in the Praries so the needed mats could be sorced locally when exploring the Praries.

[Mharr]

From the 'tone down the iron a bit' thread:

Publicado originalmente por Detestar Concierto:

maybe give a way to convert Ore since the use of Modder's Tear seem to have an effect of alchemy ? that will add more Value to Silver and so on because you only need Swamp only for Food now while you can transmute, let say, black Iron into something else or something like that

A late game crafting station that converts later metals into earlier ones would be perfect.

[Soulstinger]

Perhaps add copper golems as a reskin of the mountains monster, scaled to black forest, that drop ore when defeated

[Soulstinger]

Publicado originalmente por Yakumo_2020:

Publicado originalmente por Lee23:

If you have a Black Forest that helps but you actually have to have a shoreline in there too and the willingness to spend time looking for stuff and hauling back and forth heavy materials. My suggestion is to have chests with copper and tin hidden underground in plains.

+1 this idea.

or another option would be to have Copper, Tin, and Iron surface deposits in the Praries so the needed mats could be sorced locally when exploring the Praries.

Having copper and tin as somewhat rare occurances in the plains isnt a bsd idea

[heather1348]

As the new biomes are completed, I would hope that additional sources for some early game resources will be added, if only to add variety to the methods of collecting them. I've had more of a problem with iron than copper or tin, as black forests have been quite numerous in my worlds. In my current game, I have a substantial surplus of copper and tin that I'm hauling around with me in a cart as I build a network of roads. Occasionally, I use some of it to build crafting stations in outposts to keep my equipment in good condition. I seem to acquire more than enough tin simply by mining deposits that are in the vicinity of roads or structures that I'm building, and there are plenty of roadside copper deposits that I can use if needed - I have purposely built my roads near them. It is rare that I encounter swamps or plains that aren't near a black forest, so acquiring the minimum necessary copper and tin for crafting stations and sconces in an outpost isn't a huge deal. Still, I wouldn't mind having a second source for these metals in the late game. Iron would be my priority - it is used for a lot of crafting and building items, and I never have enough. It gets boring digging in sunken crypts all the time. I hope a second source of iron is included with the mistlands or one of the later biomes.

[Wizard of Woz]

Almost every complaint people have about this game can be solved with the Unrestricted Portals mod.

[pipo.p]

Publicado originalmente por Lee23:

Better way to get copper/tin in the late game

Pease, define "the late game".

Besides, you can get 50 bronze ingots per copper deposit. Why would you need more than two or three upgraded sets of weapons+armour, and a handful of ships, if mining is so tedious for you?

[Lee23]

Publicado originalmente por pipo.p:

Publicado originalmente por Lee23:

Better way to get copper/tin in the late game

Pease, define "the late game".

Besides, you can get 50 bronze ingots per deposit. Why would you need more than two or three upgraded sets of weapons+armour, and a handful of ships, if mining is so tedious for you?

I'm not sure how I need to "Define the late game". I literally just mean the later parts of the game. I don't understand why you put a "facepalm"?

I'd like to build braziers, sconces, cauldrons, etc without wasting hours of my own rather busy schedule. Plus, I'd like to update the post to include iron for the padded armor. My current suggestion would be hiding them (probably raw ores) in chests in later biomes, therefore giving the wishbone more use outside the mountains.

[Yakumo_2020]

Publicado originalmente por Lee23:

Publicado originalmente por pipo.p:

Pease, define "the late game".

Besides, you can get 50 bronze ingots per deposit. Why would you need more than two or three upgraded sets of weapons+armour, and a handful of ships, if mining is so tedious for you?

I'm not sure how I need to "Define the late game". I literally just mean the later parts of the game. I don't understand why you put a "facepalm"?

I'd like to build braziers, sconces, cauldrons, etc without wasting hours of my own rather busy schedule. Plus, I'd like to update the post to include iron for the padded armor. My current suggestion would be hiding them (probably raw ores) in chests in later biomes, therefore giving the wishbone more use outside the mountains.

That is a briliant idea. The devs wouldn't even need to put the ores in chests. since the wishbone already tracks sub surface Silver viens I don't think it would hard to also have it also track sub surface Iron, Copper, and Tin viens. Player wouldn't know what type of ore until the dug down to it. And considering the game already has the mechanics of mining Silver ore it probably wouldn't be that hard to add Tin, Copper and Iron to the game in a similar fasion.