Make trees grow

[Rhino]

No, seriously. Make them grow on their own.
Not having trees grow on their own, especially in a grinding kind of game is not very smart.

Animals spawn continuously, trolls and other monsters spawn, branches, tree trunks spawn every here and there but trees are not growing and dying on their own ???

What the hell did you smoke when you took that decision ? You've made it look like trees have a life cycle with trunks and branches but they don't GROW ?
Then why did you make young trees spawn around then ? At different stages of growth ! So detailled and yet they don't GROW ????

That's not logical. It's so not logical people have already made a mod for it in 2021.

Come on, add the mechanics to the base game, make trees grow and regrow without human intervention.

[Wafflesaurus Supreme]

Name ten similar games where the trees grow.

[Aurumworks]

First time I stepped into a spontaneously growing tree farm, I felt like I just got ambushed by Fangorn Forest. I was quite shocked.

[lumina]

I've been playing a while on my current map. I'm on like day 60. So you'd get a small tree sprout lol...

But honestly, what is this about? Are you running out of wood? I'm building giant bases and still have forests next to my base.

[Rhino]

Автор сообщения: Wafflesaurus Supreme

Name ten similar games where the trees grow.

Автор сообщения: lumina

I've been playing a while on my current map. I'm on like day 60. So you'd get a small tree sprout lol...

But honestly, what is this about? Are you running out of wood? I'm building giant bases and still have forests next to my base.

That's not the problem, it's just frustrating and unnatural.
Everthing else spawns back but not trees. I don't say they should fully grow overnight but still, a natural cycle would be expected.

[Rhino]

Автор сообщения: Wafflesaurus Supreme

Name ten similar games where the trees grow.

Enshrouded. I assure you I haven't had need to plant them myself.
LOTRO.
Eco....
Now I don't play many games like this kind of survival but I doubt they would leave trees to this state.

Moreover, when you make a game that puts such emphasis on realism, it's very strange.

Why make trunks and branches respawn around in the forests if the trees don't actually have a life cycle ?

[retsam1]

Автор сообщения: Rhino

Автор сообщения: Wafflesaurus Supreme

Name ten similar games where the trees grow.

Enshrouded. I assure you I haven't had need to plant them myself.
LOTRO.
Eco....
Now I don't play many games like this kind of survival but I doubt they would leave trees to this state.

Moreover, when you make a game that puts such emphasis on realism, it's very strange.

Why make trunks and branches respawn around in the forests if the trees don't actually have a life cycle ?

Also Ark Survival Evolved, Ark Ascended, and Palworld can be added to that list.

[SyxtySyx]

I think their reasoning for not doing this is that it would be frustrating for people that build large bases and farms to have trees re-grow on their own.
Decorating your base may include leaving small beach saplings in gardens and such. I't not very inconvenient to plant trees once you get to the bronze age. Then, you can actually plant your trees exactly where you want them.
I do like the mod that will grow the tree back after removing the stump, but it is hard to build a base where trees repopulate where you want a large flat, open area.
I think it would be better it the mod re-grew the tree only if you left the stump in place.

[Hiryukaen]

Автор сообщения: Rhino

You've made it look like trees have a life cycle with trunks and branches but they don't GROW ?
Then why did you make young trees spawn around then ? At different stages of growth ! So detailled and yet they don't GROW ????

Took the liberty of clipping out most of the whining to get to the base of the question:
What is the point the little trees if they don't mature?

It's so you don't need an axe to get your wood to make your first axe.
You can punch the baby trees into wood, you can't punch a matured tree into wood.

Since the baby trees don't mature, we can infer that they're exempt from the code that handles growth of cultivated stuff.

Sure there are always fallen branches and bushes you can punch for wood that prevents a hard lock, but most wouldn't find it enjoyable to be out without your axe and have a need for wood quickly since in less than 3 in game days trees mature.

Keeping the immature trees static in their "growth" cycle ensures that you will "always*" have the option to collect wood at more than a single piece at a time from fallen branches. Plant growth in Valheim isn't based on proximity like other elements are.

* Sure you could also deforest the entire game, but under normal circumstances you'll never run into the problem of being unable to make a stone axe quickly.

If Valheim were to make it so trees grow they would have to add extra code to make them proximity because you'd run into the issue of every single tree being mature and requiring an axe to harvest after a handful of days running around getting started.

Trees drop "seeds," on average, more than 50% of the time when you chop a tree down, also chance to drop more than 1 seed. So on average most players will balance out with a net positive of basic tree seeds to replant if they want. Because of that there is an unlikely scenario of having a wood shortage.

So my question is, Why do you want the static trees to automatically grow without any player input? What purpose do you think that would change?

[Humpenstilzchen]

No thanks. I want a deforested area to stay deforested. Plant trees if you want some.

[Beytran70]

Do they not? I'd assumed if you left a stump it would regrow, cuz otherwise why are there even tree stumps? And you can already replant your own trees, so, seems weird.

[Rhino]

Автор сообщения: SyxtySyx

I think their reasoning for not doing this is that it would be frustrating for people that build large bases and farms to have trees re-grow on their own.
Decorating your base may include leaving small beach saplings in gardens and such. I't not very inconvenient to plant trees once you get to the bronze age. Then, you can actually plant your trees exactly where you want them.
I do like the mod that will grow the tree back after removing the stump, but it is hard to build a base where trees repopulate where you want a large flat, open area.
I think it would be better it the mod re-grew the tree only if you left the stump in place.

if you don't want plants to be overgrown in your garden, you don't plan or you cut. Quite simple. Get other decorations.
And if you don't want trees to grow back, take the sprout out of your building area.
The sprouts should start growing by themselves immediatly, for a part of them, where the branches fell.
Like in real life.

[Rhino]

Автор сообщения: Humpenstilzchen

No thanks. I want a deforested area to stay deforested. Plant trees if you want some.

You have to upkeep your buildings but you don't want to mow the lawn ?

[Rhino]

Автор сообщения: Beytran70

Do they not? I'd assumed if you left a stump it would regrow, cuz otherwise why are there even tree stumps? And you can already replant your own trees, so, seems weird.

They don't naturally grow back. Or this whole post and the answers make no sense.

[lumina]

Автор сообщения: Rhino

Автор сообщения: Wafflesaurus Supreme

Name ten similar games where the trees grow.

Enshrouded. I assure you I haven't had need to plant them myself.
LOTRO.
Eco....
Now I don't play many games like this kind of survival but I doubt they would leave trees to this state.

Moreover, when you make a game that puts such emphasis on realism, it's very strange.

Why make trunks and branches respawn around in the forests if the trees don't actually have a life cycle ?

From what I understand, they don't grow back inside your base circle. The devs said on the forums that everything coming back, with the player having no impact on the world, is due to limitations, not because they have a natural tree growth life cycle. It was something about saves being massive and taking forever, and that they'd possibly add an option where everything doesn't come back in the future. The entire world outside of your base is just being reset constantly. It isn't natural tree growth.

Edit: Not that I'm against the idea of them slowly growing back, but I actually like that you can see your impact on the world here.

And that's the same with LOTRO. They aren't growing back unless there was some massive update in recent years. Everything is just resetting to how it was constantly. YOu have no impact on the world. If you can damage a rock, it grows back too in these games...

[GolDNenex]

Its a purge on Palword to have to fight with trees that keep re-spawning. Sure i can put box or other stuff to stop them to grow back but its so frustrating.