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daeamarth Jun 11, 2022 @ 12:01pm
Bees as defense
Just a thought. It would be cool if bees provided some "deterrence" during attacks. Maybe like a cloud of gas that does DOT to mobs or the like.
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Polonius Ulf (Banned) Jun 11, 2022 @ 12:09pm 
Bees will attack mobs if they are attacked. I have seen an inquisitive greyling regret it.

A defense would require far more hives than you need for honey, or a clever set of channels to funnel attackers toward the hives, or both, but it might be fun to set up.
PakaNoHida Jun 11, 2022 @ 12:13pm 
Originally posted by daeamarth:
Just a thought. It would be cool if bees provided some "deterrence" during attacks. Maybe like a cloud of gas that does DOT to mobs or the like.


I love this thinking, it is what Aztecs (and maybe Maya & Incas) did for real battles.
Ɣɪ¢♰ɪɱƧ Jun 11, 2022 @ 12:14pm 
Originally posted by daeamarth:
Just a thought. It would be cool if bees provided some "deterrence" during attacks. Maybe like a cloud of gas that does DOT to mobs or the like.
If there's no other priority target around the beehives the mobs will attack them and will get "poisoned". This is very useful against greylings but incredibly inefficient against anything else as beehives are very weak. It's not worth it.

If you want some sort of automated defence of sorts dig holes in the perimeter of your base and trap trolls in them. Make sure they're far enough to not throw rocks at your base. This is pretty decent vs raids although I haven't tested it much, just trapped one single troll which decimated swamp raids but they might get rekt by deathsquittos and drakes, idk.

Yes, trolls are my solution to everything, waddup?
electricdawn Jun 11, 2022 @ 2:07pm 
Even Greydwarves regret attacking bee hives, but yeah, they're far too weak for any higher enemies, but they're not that bad either...
daeamarth Jun 11, 2022 @ 4:29pm 
I meant as a new "feature". I realize the current state. I don't mean when they attack the hive. I mean when they are in the "vicinity". Anyhow, just thinking out loud on an idea of addition. Obviously more important and better things to be done/added out there.
Polonius Ulf (Banned) Jun 11, 2022 @ 10:51pm 
We need an air force. I'm stalling on defeating Moder, but don't fire drakes make an appearance at some point?
daeamarth Jun 12, 2022 @ 7:12am 
Originally posted by Polonius Ulf:
We need an air force. I'm stalling on defeating Moder, but don't fire drakes make an appearance at some point?
Riding drakes or the like would be cool.
xJukeZx Jun 25, 2022 @ 7:53pm 
Originally posted by Polonius Ulf:
Bees will attack mobs if they are attacked. I have seen an inquisitive greyling regret it.

A defense would require far more hives than you need for honey, or a clever set of channels to funnel attackers toward the hives, or both, but it might be fun to set up.

This is how i defend my bases almost exclusively. Ever since i discovered bees attack mobs ive been plaYING this game as a tower defense game.
Samoth Jun 26, 2022 @ 9:07am 
you could encircle the encampment with them, while subtle and low-powered. Given time and numbers they will hurt some things. They certainly are capable of putting down the stray Duffus or Amos Greyling. Boars and Necks should beware as well. The area of protection does not extend very far. No more than a tile or two. Throw down two floorboards and see if Duffus can play duck duck goose at that distance. At least you will have an idea of range and lethality.
I've let them kill a troll once. It was well wounded, but they did a significant amount of work and enough to overcome it's latent regeneration. I have it screen-shotted here on steam.
Last edited by Samoth; Jun 26, 2022 @ 9:08am
Polonius Ulf (Banned) Jun 27, 2022 @ 3:46pm 
Originally posted by xJukeZx:
Originally posted by Polonius Ulf:
Bees will attack mobs if they are attacked. I have seen an inquisitive greyling regret it.

A defense would require far more hives than you need for honey, or a clever set of channels to funnel attackers toward the hives, or both, but it might be fun to set up.

This is how i defend my bases almost exclusively. Ever since i discovered bees attack mobs ive been plaYING this game as a tower defense game.

Cool. This is especially good to know as you can acquire bees in the early game, before it is possible to get boars and wolves.
Samoth Jul 7, 2022 @ 12:11am 
Expertly showcased by the capable, J. Raymaker. I take no credit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxA4lp0kt9Y
Bees are capable of defeating Forsaken, as shown here. :) Enjoy.
Last edited by Samoth; Jul 7, 2022 @ 5:26am
electricdawn Jul 7, 2022 @ 1:20am 
Wow, that is absolutely awesome! Thanks for sharing.
Aesthier Jul 7, 2022 @ 4:32am 
My buddy was the first one to expose me to the idea of using bees as a defensive tool back when we first started. We had repurposed a small village as our starting base and he just happened to place three beehives within a small fenced in area that had a couple of berry bushes in it. We quickly noticed that when mobs came over to attack the fence the bees would attack the mobs.
Ever since that day using bees as an easy defensive measure near the entrance to our bases has become second nature. They can be highly effective when employed properly and It is fun to engineer new styles of defensive architecture using them.
Last edited by Aesthier; Jul 7, 2022 @ 4:38am
Polonius Ulf (Banned) Jul 7, 2022 @ 11:02am 
Originally posted by Samoth:
Expertly showcased by the capable, J. Raymaker. I take no credit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxA4lp0kt9Y
Bees are capable of defeating Forsaken, as shown here. :) Enjoy.

That was fun to watch. Thanks! :steamhappy:
Samoth Jul 24, 2022 @ 1:16am 
Originally posted by Polonius Ulf:
Originally posted by Samoth:
Expertly showcased by the capable, J. Raymaker. I take no credit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxA4lp0kt9Y
Bees are capable of defeating Forsaken, as shown here. :) Enjoy.

That was fun to watch. Thanks! :steamhappy:
glad you enjoyed it!:sunsetRV:
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