First Person View

[cocoon]

Please Please Please could you add First Person View. I have your Satisfactory game, and first person is soooo much better, or at least the option. The immersive feeling goes up 1000%

[Nesahat]

引用自 Dimitry_Blitzbrieg：

I have a friend who can't play 3rd person games because he gets nausea. if the publisher could please push this towards the developer and add 1st person view that would be great. this game has exploded! but because of that the game i feel needs to support people with disabilities, personally the game is awesome but i'm finding it hard to find and pick up things due to my color blindness, the sparkles help a little but even they are hard to see, hope there is some improvement on that part as well. [/quote]

Listed as "not planned" by devs. Sadly (would like it for screenshots).
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[Lovecraft's Cat]

No, the whole game is designed for 3rd person camera. All the models, textures, controls, everything. Plus, 3rd person camera is far more immersive than 1st person camera (unless it's VR, but that's a different story).
The only issue with the 3rd person camera is building, which is not as precise when compared to Minecraft for example. But I'm sure there are better ways to fix that, than to add 1st person camera.

[Slate]

引用自 KingKong：

Please Please Please could you add First Person View. I have your Satisfactory game, and first person is soooo much better, or at least the option. The immersive feeling goes up 1000%

Not going to tell you no or that you shouldn't play the game that way, I prefer you to play how you want. To help here are a couple links.
Some first person mods are about as close as you can get at the moment.
https://www.nexusmods.com/valheim/mods/100
https://www.nexusmods.com/valheim/mods/44

[f1ames0ff]

引用自 Scyth：

No, the whole game is designed for 3rd person camera. All the models, textures, controls, everything. Plus, 3rd person camera is far more immersive than 1st person camera (unless it's VR, but that's a different story).
The only issue with the 3rd person camera is building, which is not as precise when compared to Minecraft for example. But I'm sure there are better ways to fix that, than to add 1st person camera.

I disagree. I'm currently playing with the 1st person mod and I don't want to switch back so much immersive it is.
The only pity is that it's a mod and it has a couple of minor issues.
Generally speaking, the 1st person mode always more immersive by definition.

[RasaNova]

引用自 Scyth：

No, the whole game is designed for 3rd person camera. All the models, textures, controls, everything. Plus, 3rd person camera is far more immersive than 1st person camera (unless it's VR, but that's a different story).
The only issue with the 3rd person camera is building, which is not as precise when compared to Minecraft for example. But I'm sure there are better ways to fix that, than to add 1st person camera.

I disagree, strongly... 1st person is immersion, 3rd person is spectating. It's a difference between directing your character and being your character. Both have their role, and it's true that some games are designed around one or the other... (There are hilarious clips of attempts to make Alien Isolation 3rd person, for example.) But I think this game could actually work very well with both, even if it only happens with mods.

[Lovecraft's Cat]

引用自 f1am3d：

引用自 Scyth：

No, the whole game is designed for 3rd person camera. All the models, textures, controls, everything. Plus, 3rd person camera is far more immersive than 1st person camera (unless it's VR, but that's a different story).
The only issue with the 3rd person camera is building, which is not as precise when compared to Minecraft for example. But I'm sure there are better ways to fix that, than to add 1st person camera.

I disagree. I'm currently playing with the 1st person mod and I don't want to switch back so much immersive it is.
The only pity is that it's a mod and it has a couple of minor issues.
Generally speaking, the 1st person mode always more immersive by definition.

No, 3rd person is more immersive in a game like this, imo. I'm also against modding, it's not good, please don't use mods.

[Lovecraft's Cat]

引用自 RasaNova：

引用自 Scyth：

No, the whole game is designed for 3rd person camera. All the models, textures, controls, everything. Plus, 3rd person camera is far more immersive than 1st person camera (unless it's VR, but that's a different story).
The only issue with the 3rd person camera is building, which is not as precise when compared to Minecraft for example. But I'm sure there are better ways to fix that, than to add 1st person camera.

I disagree, strongly... 1st person is immersion, 3rd person is spectating. It's a difference between directing your character and being your character. Both have their role, and it's true that some games are designed around one or the other... (There are hilarious clips of attempts to make Alien Isolation 3rd person, for example.) But I think this game could actually work very well with both, even if it only happens with mods.

1st person is very unimmersive, because irl you can sense your surroundings, which a 1st person camera can not simulate. It feels very unrealistic, like wearing a helmet that causes tunnel vision. 3rd person camera fixes the inherent shortcomings of 1st person camera.

["Fascinating!"]

I only suffer the 3rd person view because that's what was given. I generally prefer first person view.

I'm all for them taking the time to add it in. Not a high priority, but I would certainly welcome it.

[Zlorfik [CH/BY]]

The problem for 3rd person is not missing immersion, even if that is some concern for some people. The problem is that the character does not shoot/hit where the crosshair is pointing. It's like that in pretty much every 3rd person view game. It makes the crosshair useless. If they figure out a way to make aim actually correct for the 3rd person, i'm alright with it. But still, shooting bows and building is much simpler in 1st person.

[RasaNova]

引用自 Scyth：

引用自 RasaNova：

I disagree, strongly... 1st person is immersion, 3rd person is spectating. It's a difference between directing your character and being your character. Both have their role, and it's true that some games are designed around one or the other... (There are hilarious clips of attempts to make Alien Isolation 3rd person, for example.) But I think this game could actually work very well with both, even if it only happens with mods.

1st person is very unimmersive, because irl you can sense your surroundings, which a 1st person camera can not simulate. It feels very unrealistic, like wearing a helmet that causes tunnel vision. 3rd person camera fixes the inherent shortcomings of 1st person camera.

Well I won't try to say what YOU find immersive, all I can say is that 1st person puts you IN the action while 3rd person puts you above or behind it. If we're talking in real life, in 1st person I see the world as I would see it IRL, I can't see around or behind me. As for simulating a sense of surroundings, there's no difference other than an unrealistic expanded view of the world.

And that's fine. The game is perfectly enjoyable in 3rd person, but I agree with the OP that it would also work in 1st.

[Lovecraft's Cat]

引用自 RasaNova：

If we're talking in real life, in 1st person I see the world as I would see it IRL, I can't see around or behind me.

That's false. In real life, you have binocular vision with a higher visual field and far better contrast and colors. You also have other senses to map your immediate surroundings. A 1st person camera is very limited compared to that. It's true that irl you can't 'see' behind you, but you still have capable proximity sensors to know these surroundings.

引用自 RasaNova：

As for simulating a sense of surroundings, there's no difference other than an unrealistic expanded view of the world.

Currently this is the best we have. Maybe there will be good vr in the future, but right now 3rd person camera is the most realistic and immersive gaming experience for most genres.

[RasaNova]

引用自 Scyth：

引用自 RasaNova：

If we're talking in real life, in 1st person I see the world as I would see it IRL, I can't see around or behind me.

That's false. In real life, you have binocular vision with a higher visual field and far better contrast and colors. You also have other senses to map your immediate surroundings. A 1st person camera is very limited compared to that. It's true that irl you can't 'see' behind you, but you still have capable proximity sensors to know these surroundings.

No... It is most certainly NOT false. I'm not trying to change your opinion of FPP vs TPP but you are objectively not experiencing a game world in a more realistic manner in 3rd person. Not sure what you mean by proximity sensors... Sure, IRL we have greater hearing, smell, touch etc to process our surroundings but from a videogame standpoint it's the same either way, the only difference is how you view your surroundings.

But again, the game is fine as it is and I'm not trying to tell you which is "better" or even what is more immersive to YOU.

[Shaalanaar]

引用自 Scyth：

引用自 f1am3d：

I disagree. I'm currently playing with the 1st person mod and I don't want to switch back so much immersive it is.
The only pity is that it's a mod and it has a couple of minor issues.
Generally speaking, the 1st person mode always more immersive by definition.

No, 3rd person is more immersive in a game like this, imo. I'm also against modding, it's not good, please don't use mods.

Why are you so against 1st person view existing and mods in general? It doesn't need to affect you in the slightest, and there is a demand for it from other people. This would even bring more people into the game, ones that were turned away by a lack of a 1st person view, which would give the devs more finances to make the game you enjoy playing better.

It only seems like a win win for you, so what is your problem with it?

[Shaalanaar]

In fact, modding already exists for this game, people are already adding mods to their single player experience. What is your reasoning for not wanting others to play the game they paid for, the way that they want?

[Lovecraft's Cat]

引用自 Shaalanaar：

引用自 Scyth：

No, 3rd person is more immersive in a game like this, imo. I'm also against modding, it's not good, please don't use mods.

Why are you so against 1st person view existing and mods in general? It doesn't need to affect you in the slightest, and there is a demand for it from other people. This would even bring more people into the game, ones that were turned away by a lack of a 1st person view, which would give the devs more finances to make the game you enjoy playing better.

It only seems like a win win for you, so what is your problem with it?

It's about artistic integrity for me. But ok, ultimately the game is a piece of art and a product at the same time, so perhaps my view is too extreme. I just think this game in particular screams 'artistic vision' when you look at the models and textures they use, and I'm pretty sure they fine-tuned this look for 3rd person camera.

引用自 Shaalanaar：

In fact, modding already exists for this game, people are already adding mods to their single player experience. What is your reasoning for not wanting others to play the game they paid for, the way that they want?

Well I certainly can't stop them. But ultimately I want them to experience the game how it was meant to be played (again coming back to artistic vision and integrity). Similarly, I don't want people to buy prints of oil-paintings, nor do I approve of watching films on a small screen tablets. It transforms the original vision in a bad way.