Game's crash

[Jelass Teid (30STM<3)]

Hey all. Sry if offtop. Have 100+ fps, all is fine, install private dedicated server for me and my friends, but have one trouble. Some time, 1-2 times per day, game freeze and when i restart game my character roll back to last save and i can lose something new or dupe items what i drop to chests 1-2seconds before freeze. I realy having fun by game, but i lose 5 stack of iron today, and i'm sad. Help please.

[MaCarBre]

Originally posted by Jelass Teid (30STM<3):

Hey all. Sry if offtop. Have 100+ fps, all is fine, install private dedicated server for me and my friends, but have one trouble. Some time, 1-2 times per day, game freeze and when i restart game my character roll back to last save and i can lose something new or dupe items what i drop to chests 1-2seconds before freeze. I realy having fun by game, but i lose 5 stack of iron today, and i'm sad. Help please.

Are you both playing the game and running a dedicated server on the same PC? What PC specs do you have? Have you stumbled upon my crash guide and checked most common crash issues listed there in Section1?

[Jelass Teid (30STM<3)]

Originally posted by MaCarBre:

Originally posted by Jelass Teid (30STM<3):

Hey all. Sry if offtop. Have 100+ fps, all is fine, install private dedicated server for me and my friends, but have one trouble. Some time, 1-2 times per day, game freeze and when i restart game my character roll back to last save and i can lose something new or dupe items what i drop to chests 1-2seconds before freeze. I realy having fun by game, but i lose 5 stack of iron today, and i'm sad. Help please.

Are you both playing the game and running a dedicated server on the same PC? What PC specs do you have? Have you stumbled upon my crash guide and checked most common crash issues listed there in Section1?

I have at home pc server on win 2016 x64, on hyper-v win 10 x64. On this virtual installed server. I have static ip. My friends have no problem. I play from local network, but on my PC.
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Server CONF
Intel Xeon X5660 x2
96gb RAM
2x1TB ssd.
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My PC conf
i9-9900k
32gb ram 3600mhz
gtx 1080
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I repeat that problem has only with my client, when i freeze - friends on server are continue playing without troubles. My character through 5-10 seconds disapear from server.
P.S. I searched posts with keys about my problem. Didn't find anything to help me. Maybe i skip something because apoligies in advance by offtop.

[MaCarBre]

Originally posted by Jelass Teid (30STM<3):

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My PC conf
i9-9900k
32gb ram 3600mhz
gtx 1080
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Judging by your specs alone, the first thing you should do is reset your BIOS settings to default, and not weak anything after that, to see if crashes are related to CPU and memory. Did you try to find any of the crash log files (Secition2)? Be sure to grab one after a next crash. Also note in what manner do you crash (app closing, black screen with sound, frozen frame, system crash, etc..)

[Jelass Teid (30STM<3)]

Originally posted by MaCarBre:

Originally posted by Jelass Teid (30STM<3):

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My PC conf
i9-9900k
32gb ram 3600mhz
gtx 1080
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Judging by your specs alone, the first thing you should do is reset your BIOS settings to default, and not weak anything after that, to see if crashes are related to CPU and memory. Did you try to find any of the crash log files (Secition2)? Be sure to grab one after a next crash. Also note in what manner do you crash (app closing, black screen with sound, frozen frame, system crash, etc..)

cpu, ram and gpu in stock. 1080 was +100 clock +500 memory, but i drop to factory values

P.S. This problem has only with Valheim. I play new Space Marines, play DL2 etc. nearAAA games with good graphic in 100+ fps.

[MaCarBre]

Originally posted by Jelass Teid (30STM<3):

Do you remember in what manner were you crashing? GPU related crashes usually manifest as black screen, frozen image and particular app crashes with GPU rendering errors in Player.log file.

Crashes occurring in other games is useful info when it comes to confirming that there is a general issue, but crashing in only one scenario doesn't lead to a conclusion that the system doesn't have general stability problems. If the system is unstable on only game or program, where other similar systems are not, that system it's unstable in general. Not all games don't stress systems in the same way.

Currently there are no other crash reports that would indicate that Valheim has a crash problem on Windows, 1080, nor 9900k. There are some issues for Linux when Valheim is running in Vulkan and full-screen, but that's unrelated to Windows, and it's a Unity engine issue.

[Jelass Teid (30STM<3)]

Originally posted by MaCarBre:

Originally posted by Jelass Teid (30STM<3):

Do you remember in what manner were you crashing? GPU related crashes usually manifest as black screen, frozen image and particular app crashes with GPU rendering errors in Player.log file.

Crashes occurring in other games is useful info when it comes to confirming that there is a general issue, but crashing in only one scenario doesn't lead to a conclusion that the system doesn't have general stability problems. If the system is unstable on only game or program, where other similar systems are not, that system it's unstable in general. Not all games don't stress systems in the same way.

Currently there are no other crash reports that would indicate that Valheim has a crash problem on Windows, 1080, nor 9900k. There are some issues for Linux when Valheim is running in Vulkan and full-screen, but that's unrelated to Windows, and it's a Unity engine issue.

Game image is freezing and that's all. I watch for last frame before freeze. For exp i wait one time 20 mins. Until i kill process in task manager - anything happening.

[pipo.p]

When this happens on my system, sometimes just for like one minute, sometimes for much more time, or until I log out of my Linux session to kill Steam, out of impatience, it's always because a log-troll or an abomination just struck several trees and/or a nearby stone tower, or the one time when I managed to do the copper deposit whole collapsing trick. It's really appears like a very degraded FPS number, with the freezing interrupted here and there with but one new frame.

But in my case however, my system is clearly outdated, and I tried to tweak with Unity parameters, like the number of colliding rays, to have a more fluid game. Not sure about the impact on that matter, though.

[Jelass Teid (30STM<3)]

Guys, maybe i fixed. yesturday i chage directx on vulkan, on program start. Game session near 10 hours and no crashs. freezes etc. Continue testing today.

Do somebody knows, game start in default, on 11 or 12 directx?

[MaCarBre]

Originally posted by Jelass Teid (30STM<3):

Guys, maybe i fixed. yesturday i chage directx on vulkan, on program start. Game session near 10 hours and no crashs. freezes etc. Continue testing today.

Do somebody knows, game start in default, on 11 or 12 directx?

Image freezes are usually a GPU issue. Default is d3d11. If you are stable on Vulkan, you probably have a general driver issue. Preform clean driver reinstallation under custom installation options when dealing with Nvidia drivers.

[Jelass Teid (30STM<3)]

Originally posted by MaCarBre:

Originally posted by Jelass Teid (30STM<3):

Guys, maybe i fixed. yesturday i chage directx on vulkan, on program start. Game session near 10 hours and no crashs. freezes etc. Continue testing today.

Do somebody knows, game start in default, on 11 or 12 directx?

Image freezes are usually a GPU issue. Default is d3d11. If you are stable on Vulkan, you probably have a general driver issue. Preform clean driver reinstallation under custom installation options when dealing with Nvidia drivers.

I understand why u think this way, but why i have no problem with other high demanding games? If only I had the same cause for example in space marines 2 - it will have logic. But other games (higher demand than valheim) have no problems at all.

P.S. Day 2 on vulkan - all is fine.

[MaCarBre]

Originally posted by Jelass Teid (30STM<3):

Originally posted by MaCarBre:

Image freezes are usually a GPU issue. Default is d3d11. If you are stable on Vulkan, you probably have a general driver issue. Preform clean driver reinstallation under custom installation options when dealing with Nvidia drivers.

I understand why u think this way, but why i have no problem with other high demanding games? If only I had the same cause for example in space marines 2 - it will have logic. But other games (higher demand than valheim) have no problems at all.

P.S. Day 2 on vulkan - all is fine.

Things are not as simple so that you can look at them in a way "new game looks better and not crashing, thus problem is in the older game that crashing". Games can utilize different parts of the GPU, have game specific spikes in power, and drivers can get messed up for particular game due to cache and driver profiles being corrupt for variety of reasons.

I'm speaking to you from perspective of knowing every single crash report that comes to Valheim Devs, as I'm helping them sort them, while also trying to help players.
From my perspective, there are no players with gtx 1080 or i9-9900k that have general issues that would indicate the game crashing, therefore if you want your issue resolved, you should not focus on such question, rather trying out what you can do to fix it. On another had, from the players that have such cards (e.g. 1080ti) and that solved their crashes, the solution was not related to anything they could do in Valheim (e.g. this player downclocking their card which fixed their crashes).

From the past experience, players that were stable in Vulkan but were crashing in d3d11, they mostly had driver related issues, and in some cases had to use tools like DDU to clean out their old drivers because Nvidia reinstallation wasn't enough. Vulkan bypasses Windows fullscreen optimizations and puts more stress on the system as both CPU and GPU can be utilized more with less interaction with drivers, so if you are stable in Vulkan (still under question really), chances are that the card is fine, rather has a driver issue. Increasingly more possible if you are overclocking the card and setting up various profiles, and using gfx jobs tweaks in boot.cofig to increase performance in Valhiem.

[Jelass Teid (30STM<3)]

Originally posted by MaCarBre:

Originally posted by Jelass Teid (30STM<3):

I understand why u think this way, but why i have no problem with other high demanding games? If only I had the same cause for example in space marines 2 - it will have logic. But other games (higher demand than valheim) have no problems at all.

P.S. Day 2 on vulkan - all is fine.

Things are not as simple so that you can look at them in a way "new game looks better and not crashing, thus problem is in the older game that crashing". Games can utilize different parts of the GPU, have game specific spikes in power, and drivers can get messed up for particular game due to cache and driver profiles being corrupt for variety of reasons.

I'm speaking to you from perspective of knowing every single crash report that comes to Valheim Devs, as I'm helping them sort them, while also trying to help players.
From my perspective, there are no players with gtx 1080 or i9-9900k that have general issues that would indicate the game crashing, therefore if you want your issue resolved, you should not focus on such question, rather trying out what you can do to fix it. On another had, from the players that have such cards (e.g. 1080ti) and that solved their crashes, the solution was not related to anything they could do in Valheim (e.g. this player downclocking their card which fixed their crashes).

From the past experience, players that were stable in Vulkan but were crashing in d3d11, they mostly had driver related issues, and in some cases had to use tools like DDU to clean out their old drivers because Nvidia reinstallation wasn't enough. Vulkan bypasses Windows fullscreen optimizations and puts more stress on the system as both CPU and GPU can be utilized more with less interaction with drivers, so if you are stable in Vulkan (still under question really), chances are that the card is fine, rather has a driver issue. Increasingly more possible if you are overclocking the card and setting up various profiles, and using gfx jobs tweaks in boot.cofig to increase performance in Valhiem.

Tomorrow i reinstall windows on clear official distributive, install last drivers, downclock gpu -100c-500m and have same trouble with valheim. In interest i download a lot of games from different time (2010-2024) and no one have problems on directx11. Part of games was test with gathering data of load cpu, gpu, ram, tempreture. One the most buggy game on unity - tarkov work fine. I stop searching way to fix valheim on dx11 because want to play and just translate to people how i fixed it.

P.S. Day 3 on vulkan is fine.