Resting effect distances

[zOldBulldog]

I am struggling to fully understand the resting effect and how to position things to have it fully active while at my workbench/forge/sleeping.

For example, I currently have my (if memory serves 18m x 10m) starter home setup with the campfire in the center, the work area at one end and the sleeping quarters at the other. Near the campfire I get 9 comfort, near the work area I get 7 comfort, near the beds 6.

Sure, I could crowd things up, but I would rather setup things to look good and be easy to access if at all possible.

I watched a ton of guides and they all cover the basics of point by point comfort, but none discuss the "layout strategy".

So... questions:

1) Are there any not-so-ovious rules to ensure full comfort coverage?

2) Are there good ways to arrange/separate things to ensure perfect coverage while having more space? For example, I was toying with the concept of multiple floors. But keep in mind... I don't have stone floors yet, so things like a central fireplace over a wood floor might not work.

[vinyblaster]

Rules are sort of simple:

- comfort items need to be in a 10m radius of your character to count towards comfort.
- some items don't stack, for example a chair and a stool don't stack.

Using several floors is a good strategy since the area is a sphere, not a flat disc. Note that the "floor" strategy works with basement too. A common strategy for comfort and station upgrades is to hide them underneath the floor after digging a small pit. Keeps the living area cleaner.

Another strategy is to not care too much about comfort :) Keep in mind that if your buff runs out, all you have to do is build a fire and sit next to it and it will give you back a few minutes, even more if you can do that under a "roof".

[knighttemplar1960]

If you are in your base you can pretty much renew your rested buff any time you want. With that in mind I usually keep most of my comfort items bear the bed so that I start the day with max rested buff. You can also hide comfort items you want to keep out of sight in an attic as well as the previously mentioned basement.

I know one of the things the devs did not long ago was to make work bench coverage a cylinder instead of a sphere. I don't know if they applied that to comfort items as well.

[zOldBulldog]

10m is quite small. Would you place multiples of the items to extend the coverage in a good looking build?

The reason why I worry about it is that I really hate having to think about comfort (and generally I like to automate things). I would rather it replenish itself automatically as I go through my normal routine. That means that (for me) the following areas should provide the full just by being there:

- Workbench and Forge.
- Storage.
- Beds.

The hardest thing though... at least initially is going to be placing campfires. Could I put those along the walls on the outside, with a tiny roof, walls and an opening to the inside? Kind of how we put fireplaces on IRL houses.

[SiEgE]

You don't want it to outlast most of the bonus effects(freezing resistance, poison resistance, good food you have). Sometimes, it is better to turn back early, than to get lost and die.

[Zombits]

As an example I made a small house rest room with everything in it for comfort buff.

Kitchen is just beside, so campire/heart serves 2 purpose . Hottub is on the roof since i had no place within 10m ;)

I skip most nights to not play in dark so it refill rest naturally.

I suppose it's possible to put everything within 10m and look good, just takes some planning

[vinyblaster]

Originally posted by zOldBulldog:

10m is quite small. Would you place multiples of the items to extend the coverage in a good looking build?

The reason why I worry about it is that I really hate having to think about comfort (and generally I like to automate things). I would rather it replenish itself automatically as I go through my normal routine. That means that (for me) the following areas should provide the full just by being there:

- Workbench and Forge.
- Storage.
- Beds.

The hardest thing though... at least initially is going to be placing campfires. Could I put those along the walls on the outside, with a tiny roof, walls and an opening to the inside? Kind of how we put fireplaces on IRL houses.

I do put duplicates of some items yes, like rugs, tables, etc. To cover my base, and it still looks nice since it's for the kitchen, the bedroom, etc.

I don't quite understand your problem with campfires. You can put them wherever, just make sure to exhaust the smoke.

[Ghevd]

Rested buff only increases in duration with more comfort.

I'm pretty sure if you hit rested 7 on one side of your base then run over to the other side with rested 9, so long as you don't leave the rested area you will get the higher time instantly.

[vinyblaster]

Originally posted by Ghevd:

Rested buff only increases in duration with more comfort.

I'm pretty sure if you hit rested 7 on one side of your base then run over to the other side with rested 9, so long as you don't leave the rested area you will get the higher time instantly.

That's correct, as long as you don't leave the "resting" state you'll immediately adjust to the highest value.

[RagnCharran]

Also works if you're fully rested and add a new item to increase comfort level, you get the extra rested time immediately.

[avatar.zero]

As long as you stay within the warmth range of a fire source after establishing a Rested bonus, you will always have whatever comfort you have within range of you at minimum. Even if you only have 8 minutes (+1 Comfort and the clock will freeze there as long as you have warmth), walking over to a +10 comfort without breaking warmth will cause the clock to automatically jump up to 17 minutes.

TL;DR: Don't worry about having maximized comfort in your work areas. So long as you can keep all of your indoor foot area heated you'll never lose Rested or Resting.

[vinyblaster]

Originally posted by avatar.zero:

As long as you stay within the warmth range of a fire source after establishing a Rested bonus, you will always have whatever comfort you have within range of you at minimum. Even if you only have 8 minutes (+1 Comfort and the clock will freeze there as long as you have warmth), walking over to a +10 comfort without breaking warmth will cause the clock to automatically jump up to 17 minutes.

TL;DR: Don't worry about having maximized comfort in your work areas. So long as you can keep all of your indoor foot area heated you'll never lose Rested or Resting.

One small caveat: the heat source is not enough for the resting state, you also need to be either seated or sheltered, and not have an enemy nearby.

[knighttemplar1960]

Originally posted by zOldBulldog:

10m is quite small. Would you place multiples of the items to extend the coverage in a good looking build?

The reason why I worry about it is that I really hate having to think about comfort (and generally I like to automate things). I would rather it replenish itself automatically as I go through my normal routine. That means that (for me) the following areas should provide the full just by being there:

- Workbench and Forge.
- Storage.
- Beds.

The hardest thing though... at least initially is going to be placing campfires. Could I put those along the walls on the outside, with a tiny roof, walls and an opening to the inside? Kind of how we put fireplaces on IRL houses.

You can double up on some things. Put your bed on the second floor with full comfort (hot tub in an adjoining room). If your bed room is directly over your workstation/forge you get full comfort while crafting and upgrading things. You don't need full comfort where your storage is you can just return to your bedroom or your work station for a couple seconds before you leave your base. If you put your portal hub next to your bed room you can easily refresh before you leave.

Day is 21 minutes night is 9. You can get your rested bonus so that it lasts all day long and a minute or 2 into the night.
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[Ras]

I will admit that sometimes I don't get all my rest bonus because 1 bed is slightly out of range of something. (I have 1 main mage tower & a guest lodge w/ 4 beds). Maybe the range of items effecting rest could be slightly increased?

[Kursor1]

You can also build your place like a T- bed on single arm, workstations at both ends of the cross bar and fire where all 2 arms meet.that might keep the bed close enough to the workstations. Another option, depending on how your house is built, is to bury an extra bed and maybe a table under the floor where needed. And as people have said, you can make more than one banner and chair for comfort, Dont forget the corewood sitting log is the same comfort at the chair- you could have a chair at one end and a sitting log just outside the wall at the other end.

[blprice61]

Chart your movement and activities from the moment you portal in to your base. Then try concentrating all of those activities in one place near the portal(s).

Some things to think about:
a) workbenches/forges/etc have different requirements for repair and construction/upgrade.
b) you could use a partial sort unload into chests (or my preference carts) that you'll use later to take to final storage area.
c) similar to b; keep a small stock of foods/potions/weapons/armor that you typically switch between for various activities.
d) bury (or attic) all comfort pieces that take up too much space for that area and are probably duplicated at your sleeping area.

I find this approach gives me a lot more freedom in my base layouts.