Help building the bride?

[Makatas]

Do i understand how beams work wrong, or is this limit? if i place 2x2x2 marble in the place i marked, it imediatelly breaks, beams from the ground in this place is only 28m

[Zep Tepi]

Use ironwood beams for support, and if you can, use a hoe to build ground support in a few places. Ironwood will support marble.

[Makatas]

Originally posted by Zep Tepi:

Use ironwood beams for support, and if you can, use a hoe to build ground support in a few places. Ironwood will support marble.

Im using flametal beams

[Makatas]

Originally posted by Zep Tepi:

Use ironwood beams for support, and if you can, use a hoe to build ground support in a few places. Ironwood will support marble.

Forgot to upload a screenshot
https://imgur.com/sdSgU6c
Thats how it looks like, last beam in the picture is 28m tall from the ground and marble on top of it(so 30m) breaks

[DreadTheAbyss]

Originally posted by Makatas:

Originally posted by Zep Tepi:

Use ironwood beams for support, and if you can, use a hoe to build ground support in a few places. Ironwood will support marble.

Forgot to upload a screenshot
https://imgur.com/sdSgU6c
Thats how it looks like, last beam in the picture is 28m tall from the ground and marble on top of it(so 30m) breaks

A couple 45 beams supporting the marble from underneath might help or just run a single truss across the gap to give them more support. tbh building is finicky as hell especially @ that height. sometimes adding supports to support what you want then deleting the supports will stop it from breaking

[Makatas]

Originally posted by DreadTheAbyss:

Originally posted by Makatas:

Forgot to upload a screenshot
https://imgur.com/sdSgU6c
Thats how it looks like, last beam in the picture is 28m tall from the ground and marble on top of it(so 30m) breaks

A couple 45 beams supporting the marble from underneath might help or just run a single truss across the gap to give them more support. tbh building is finicky as hell especially @ that height. sometimes adding supports to support what you want then deleting the supports will stop it from breaking

Thats not even the deepeds part of the river yet, and its already breaking, thats not good. I tested the beams only they can go up to 50m, so i thought it will be fine, but since marble is breaking at 30m for me idk what im doing wrong, can you paint on my screeshot what exactly you mean by "run a single truss across the gap"?

[Nerevar]

useing flametal beams to build is already not cost effective. they cost twice as much as iron ones and only exist in vertical and horizontal ones. they have the same support as ironwoodbeams but cannot be hidden inside the marble due to thier THICKNESS.

the best cost effective method overall is dvergr metal walls as they only need copper and have the same support as iron and flametal beams. but they can only be used for vertical stuff to begin with.

build height limits.

marble has a build height limit of 18m without support. then it breaks no matter what.

grausten has a limit of 26 meters before it breaks.

iron etc. has a limit of 50m roughly.


the only way to build higher is with the help of trees as support as trees count as ground level.

marble with iron support has a max build height limit of 28m. so you saying "its only 28m" is kinda funny. as 28 is precisely the ABSOLUTE limit for marble even with iron support. you cannot exceed this height with just iron support and marble in any legit way. what youre trying is impossible without the use of cheats or mods.

the max height for grausten is a bit higher. about 6m compared to marble. but then its over for anything from heavy build aside beams themselfs.

you can use wood on top of 28m of marble as marble counts as ground for the wood calculation.

but for marble youre out of luck.

in order to gain height you have 2 legit options : raise ground level by up to 8m from original map generation.

plant a PINE tree. pines are way higher than other trees and if you build on the top of the tree it counts as ground for the caculation to begin. but if anything breaks the tree the entire thing will come down.

[Makatas]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

useing flametal beams to build is already not cost effective. they cost twice as much as iron ones and only exist in vertical and horizontal ones. they have the same support as ironwoodbeams but cannot be hidden inside the marble due to thier THICKNESS.

the best cost effective method overall is dvergr metal walls as they only need copper and have the same support as iron and flametal beams. but they can only be used for vertical stuff to begin with.

build height limits.

marble has a build height limit of 18m without support. then it breaks no matter what.

grausten has a limit of 26 meters before it breaks.

iron etc. has a limit of 50m roughly.


the only way to build higher is with the help of trees as support as trees count as ground level.

marble with iron support has a max build height limit of 28m. so you saying "its only 28m" is kinda funny. as 28 is precisely the ABSOLUTE limit for marble even with iron support. you cannot exceed this height with just iron support and marble in any legit way. what youre trying is impossible without the use of cheats or mods.

the max height for grausten is a bit higher. about 6m compared to marble. but then its over for anything from heavy build aside beams themselfs.

you can use wood on top of 28m of marble as marble counts as ground for the wood calculation.

but for marble youre out of luck.

in order to gain height you have 2 legit options : raise ground level by up to 8m from original map generation.

plant a PINE tree. pines are way higher than other trees and if you build on the top of the tree it counts as ground for the caculation to begin. but if anything breaks the tree the entire thing will come down.

Cost doesnt matter i play creative

[jonnin]

Am I the only one expecting to see weird science or frankenstein or something going on here?

bridges of any seriousness without cheating are exceedingly difficult to do. If you go UP to give clearance below for a boat, its even harder... if you just go straight across, its a little farther reach. I can't tell much from the pic beyond that its a large structure. A shot of the river and bridge so far from farther back would help...

[Makatas]

Originally posted by jonnin:

Am I the only one expecting to see weird science or frankenstein or something going on here?

bridges of any seriousness without cheating are exceedingly difficult to do. If you go UP to give clearance below for a boat, its even harder... if you just go straight across, its a little farther reach. I can't tell much from the pic beyond that its a large structure. A shot of the river and bridge so far from farther back would help...

Just a simple bridge over a deep river. I was building a road from my little village to my friends castle, and other way without going thru that river would be sea. But its very shallow river so boat can just barelly pass it, clearance is not needed, i just want to build bridge to connect the road from me to him.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by Makatas:

Originally posted by Nerevar:

useing flametal beams to build is already not cost effective. they cost twice as much as iron ones and only exist in vertical and horizontal ones. they have the same support as ironwoodbeams but cannot be hidden inside the marble due to thier THICKNESS.

the best cost effective method overall is dvergr metal walls as they only need copper and have the same support as iron and flametal beams. but they can only be used for vertical stuff to begin with.

build height limits.

marble has a build height limit of 18m without support. then it breaks no matter what.

grausten has a limit of 26 meters before it breaks.

iron etc. has a limit of 50m roughly.


the only way to build higher is with the help of trees as support as trees count as ground level.

marble with iron support has a max build height limit of 28m. so you saying "its only 28m" is kinda funny. as 28 is precisely the ABSOLUTE limit for marble even with iron support. you cannot exceed this height with just iron support and marble in any legit way. what youre trying is impossible without the use of cheats or mods.

the max height for grausten is a bit higher. about 6m compared to marble. but then its over for anything from heavy build aside beams themselfs.

you can use wood on top of 28m of marble as marble counts as ground for the wood calculation.

but for marble youre out of luck.

in order to gain height you have 2 legit options : raise ground level by up to 8m from original map generation.

plant a PINE tree. pines are way higher than other trees and if you build on the top of the tree it counts as ground for the caculation to begin. but if anything breaks the tree the entire thing will come down.

Cost doesnt matter i play creative

ok. you can slove your problem with cheat commands if you wanna then. just spawn some of the skulls in they act as ground and allow infinite height building basically.

[Makatas]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

Originally posted by Makatas:

Cost doesnt matter i play creative

ok. you can slove your problem with cheat commands if you wanna then. just spawn some of the skulls in they act as ground and allow infinite height building basically.

I already using cheat to build without resources and fly around, so whats one more. Can you elaborate more what skulls are you talking about and how/where i use them?

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by Makatas:

Originally posted by Nerevar:

ok. you can slove your problem with cheat commands if you wanna then. just spawn some of the skulls in they act as ground and allow infinite height building basically.

I already using cheat to build without resources and fly around, so whats one more. Can you elaborate more what skulls are you talking about and how/where i use them?

i dont know thier ID out of my head sorry. but if you just spawn them in and the build on top of them the piece placed on top will become blue stability again.

[LostSoul]

Originally posted by Makatas:

Originally posted by Nerevar:

ok. you can slove your problem with cheat commands if you wanna then. just spawn some of the skulls in they act as ground and allow infinite height building basically.

I already using cheat to build without resources and fly around, so whats one more. Can you elaborate more what skulls are you talking about and how/where i use them?

'Ground' objects (those that spawn naturally in the world, from small boulders all the way up to the giant stone pillars) count as the 'ground' for the purposes of anything built touching them, so any object built touching them has its maximum build strength. By spawning those objects in controlled locations attached your structure, you can 'reset' your structure's effective ground height to whatever height you want.

[Makatas]

Originally posted by jonnin:

Am I the only one expecting to see weird science or frankenstein or something going on here?

bridges of any seriousness without cheating are exceedingly difficult to do. If you go UP to give clearance below for a boat, its even harder... if you just go straight across, its a little farther reach. I can't tell much from the pic beyond that its a large structure. A shot of the river and bridge so far from farther back would help...

Here ya go. just a simple bridge.

https://prnt.sc/JPHJj8DQprWe

[Makatas]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

Originally posted by Makatas:

I already using cheat to build without resources and fly around, so whats one more. Can you elaborate more what skulls are you talking about and how/where i use them?

i dont know thier ID out of my head sorry. but if you just spawn them in and the build on top of them the piece placed on top will become blue stability again.

Thanks

Here is the finished product
https://prnt.sc/JPHJj8DQprWe