PSA for Wasting Bells (and time)

[TwoTokeTrain]

Just had a fun little experience and wanted to warn other people so they don't befall the same "misfortune" as me.
I was just about to fight Fader, spent the last couple days setting everything up: shield generator, raised ground to stop mobs entering the arena, recovery portal set up and all food/potions/gear ready to rock. I even waited until Saturday so i could more time to fight him.
I place the bells and ring them and as i do this i call in a summoned troll (close to me as i want to see if my bubble shield will extend to him) and as his meteor crashes to the ground it kills me....before Fader has even spawned...in disbelief of my own stupidity i go through the motions and get my rested buff back and do a corpse run to get my gear. Grab my gear and as i'm fleeing my own summoned troll (he's attacking me as Fader still hasn't spawned) i fall off my own raised ground platform and die again...so i do the corpse run again and get myself set up for the fight...Fader STILL hasn't spawned and when i go to ring the bells again i get a message saying there are no bells...........they disappeared after i summoned him and died twice.
So now i must go back to searching for fortresses and collecting bell fragments...all the fun stuff i had previously done and thought was behind me!! The JOYS :D

Anyway, just wanted to let everyone know its possible to waste your bells and hope that you guys don't go through this ordeal hahaha

[Nerevar]

bell fragments are a limited resource. there is only 20 fortresses per gameworld.

[saurce]

Just spawn some in, that sounds like a huge oversight. This game is still in early access so dont feel bad about using dev commands. There is a list fourty-four miles high of bugs and things that need polishing/improvement. This sounds like just another item on that list.

[Steve]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Saurce:

Just spawn some in, that sounds like a huge oversight. This game is still in early access so dont feel bad about using dev commands. There is a list fourty-four miles high of bugs and things that need polishing/improvement. This sounds like just another item on that list.

What if the player could learn a crafting recipe for this? Multiple paths to victory? Considering the fortresses are also the only known source of powerup gems (and a great source of resources like flametal), they wouldn't lose their utility. Could have to touch a fragment to know how to make them? Or perhaps the bell fragment requires more than mere flametal?

[saurce]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Just Steve:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Saurce:

Just spawn some in, that sounds like a huge oversight. This game is still in early access so dont feel bad about using dev commands. There is a list fourty-four miles high of bugs and things that need polishing/improvement. This sounds like just another item on that list.

What if the player could learn a crafting recipe for this? Multiple paths to victory? Considering the fortresses are also the only known source of powerup gems (and a great source of resources like flametal), they wouldn't lose their utility. Could have to touch a fragment to know how to make them? Or perhaps the bell fragment requires more than mere flametal?

Yeah, that could work too. In my opinion, every single thing in Sandbox games such as these needs to be renewable. Terraria, Minecraft, Rust, Don't Starve, The Forest, etc. All games where every single thing is renewable, and benefit from it. Or, suffer from such an abundance of a given resource that you'd never have to make a renewable source to begin with. Bells obviously don't fit that specific criteria, but you get my point I'm sure.

[glass zebra]

Bosses not spawning if you log out or die during their spawn animation has been reported with other bosses too (definitely remember seeing a ticket with Yagluth). Maybe the fixed it for the others but not Fader yet.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Saurce:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Just Steve:

What if the player could learn a crafting recipe for this? Multiple paths to victory? Considering the fortresses are also the only known source of powerup gems (and a great source of resources like flametal), they wouldn't lose their utility. Could have to touch a fragment to know how to make them? Or perhaps the bell fragment requires more than mere flametal?

Yeah, that could work too. In my opinion, every single thing in Sandbox games such as these needs to be renewable. Terraria, Minecraft, Rust, Don't Starve, The Forest, etc. All games where every single thing is renewable, and benefit from it. Or, suffer from such an abundance of a given resource that you'd never have to make a renewable source to begin with. Bells obviously don't fit that specific criteria, but you get my point I'm sure.

At least in some of those games the bosses also drop stuff you can use and there is a reason to kill them more than once or even a lot. In Valheim the reason is pretty much just "trophy" after the first kill, though some people might also like to have like 20+ artisan tables.

[Reaptor]

Fader is pretty easy if you just summon a couple of trolls and spam vines with the vine staff.
Honestly, the vines are pretty OP

[glass zebra]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Reaptor:

Fader is pretty easy if you just summon a couple of trolls and spam vines with the vine staff.
Honestly, the vines are pretty OP

They should probably make Fader immune to the immobilisation of the vines tbh. It is pretty ridiculous when he just stands there and does nothing until the effect wears off if you don't walk around in front of his face.

[TwoTokeTrain]

I’m not going to spawn them in, I’m doing a completely vanilla playthrough so don’t want to ruin that now.

I had 2 spare bell fragments and have taken 1 fortress since already with another identified to take this evening. You get 3 to 4 fragments per fortress I think so it’s not that big of a deal it has just set me back a day or a day and a half tops.

This was more for other people to see that this is possible…and to be careful when summoning trolls!

[Zombits]

loading old saves, for times like this

[glass zebra]

Ursprungligen skrivet av TwoTokeTrain:

I’m not going to spawn them in, I’m doing a completely vanilla playthrough so don’t want to ruin that now.

It is very likely a bug, so using devcommands to fix what bugs take is a pretty good way to bandaid the issue until the devs fix it for real.

It is already listed under "In Progress" in the "Known Issues" here: https://www.valheimgame.com/support/ for the re-log part.