Mistlands bases collapsing after ashlands update

[MrTakeshi763]

So after the ashlands update a few of my bases specifically in the mistlands have had the terrain around them altered so much that they all fell into a deep ocean that was not there before. Hundreds of hours of resource gathering and building for the devs to do this is poor form

[CombatWombat]

Yep somehow they thought changing the terrain was a necessity.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/892970/discussions/0/6171700864781197940/

[Nerevar]

they warned us about this.... MONTHS before the update went live....its early access. you decided to build near an UNFINISHED yet to be developed biome.

[CombatWombat]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

they warned us about this.... MONTHS before the update went live....its early access. you decided to build near an UNFINISHED yet to be developed biome.

No, we built in a finished biome, the mistlands and I at least built it month before they warned us or did they warn us at the release of mistlands?

[Darren Daulton]

Talk about Mistlands bases. I've had Ashlands based disappear after the update.

Not really disappear, more like float high above the ocean.

[Gunnar Hurtya]

Ditto, have ocean forest with rock spires topped by burial chambers, troll caves, and spawners. I see them as interesting build opportunities, a lucky result of playing early access, but moan if you need to. I was warned before the update, had 4 ashland bases, had to break them all down and move the mats. Bad is I really liked them, good is that I had stacks of mats to finish other major builds, and have a fair supply left yet. So swings and roundabouts eh.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by CombatWombat:

Originally posted by Nerevar:

they warned us about this.... MONTHS before the update went live....its early access. you decided to build near an UNFINISHED yet to be developed biome.

No, we built in a finished biome, the mistlands and I at least built it month before they warned us or did they warn us at the release of mistlands?

no you didnt. you build right next to an unfinished biome.

and well. they did warn you that areas AROUND unfinished biomes would get affected. with example pictures even. you choose to ignore that warning. plenty of time to move the build.

[Gregomoto]

Yeah, this can happen in EA games. Just spawn your stuff back in and build a new base. As building is kinda fun in this game, take this accident as a gift and build better than before :)

[Cattastrafy]

No offense, but it's fairly obvious that you should start a completely new game after each major update.

They say if you leave it unexplored prior to update it should mostly work...but theres always weirdness that's not worth the hassle of using an old save for new content.

[Steve]

Originally posted by Cattastrafy:

No offense, but it's fairly obvious that you should start a completely new game after each major update.

They say if you leave it unexplored prior to update it should mostly work...but theres always weirdness that's not worth the hassle of using an old save for new content.

This really should be marked as the thread answer.

[Nerevar]

no it should not. as a new world is never REQUIRED at all aslong as the player knows what they are doing. i have been useing my release map all the way till mistlands without problems. and my mistlands map since mistlands. no problems either.
mistlands was the biggest chance to map terrian they ever did simply because the biome spreads. so way bigger areas where affected. while the moment they confirmed that ashlands and deep north wouldnt spread and be isolated instead it was clear : aslong as you stay the ♥♥♥♥ away from the north and south map edges your world is fine.

people who say its its "obvious to start all over with a major update" arent paying attention at all. valheims characters arent world bound. so makeing new characters each time is definitly never required nor obvious. its the total opposite. the sole exception is if the devs make changes to characters or how skill leveling works. then a restart is a good idea of course. but when there is zero changes? why? game is clearly designed to be played longterm.

like when an update clearcut shows that it has zero changes for the first half of the game then why replay that same content you already did again for no good reason?

you do that when there is a major addition thats new for said content. but there wasnt. especially not with ashlands at all.

so aslong as you didnt venture down south (or north for the next and last biome) your world is FINE.

major terrian changes outside of these 2 unfinished biomes aint happening anymore according to the devs.

and unexplored parts of the map will auto update themselfs just fine aswell.

alot of players keep thier maps or wanna keep thier maps because they build a cool ass base and wanna get a use out of that base for future updates. of course when you do that as a player you should make sure to build it somewhere where new changes are the least likely to affect it overall. the devs just wont give an assurance that old maps will keep working. but they always TEST new updates with way older maps aswell just to see how they will react. and when they see problems they post about it and warn players. just like they did with the ashlands changes.

[CombatWombat]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

no it should not. as a new world is never REQUIRED at all aslong as the player knows what they are doing. i have been useing my release map all the way till mistlands without problems. and my mistlands map since mistlands. no problems either.
mistlands was the biggest chance to map terrian they ever did simply because the biome spreads. so way bigger areas where affected. while the moment they confirmed that ashlands and deep north wouldnt spread and be isolated instead it was clear : aslong as you stay the ♥♥♥♥ away from the north and south map edges your world is fine.

people who say its its "obvious to start all over with a major update" arent paying attention at all. valheims characters arent world bound. so makeing new characters each time is definitly never required nor obvious. its the total opposite. the sole exception is if the devs make changes to characters or how skill leveling works. then a restart is a good idea of course. but when there is zero changes? why? game is clearly designed to be played longterm.

like when an update clearcut shows that it has zero changes for the first half of the game then why replay that same content you already did again for no good reason?

you do that when there is a major addition thats new for said content. but there wasnt. especially not with ashlands at all.

so aslong as you didnt venture down south (or north for the next and last biome) your world is FINE.

major terrian changes outside of these 2 unfinished biomes aint happening anymore according to the devs.

and unexplored parts of the map will auto update themselfs just fine aswell.

alot of players keep thier maps or wanna keep thier maps because they build a cool ass base and wanna get a use out of that base for future updates. of course when you do that as a player you should make sure to build it somewhere where new changes are the least likely to affect it overall. the devs just wont give an assurance that old maps will keep working. but they always TEST new updates with way older maps aswell just to see how they will react. and when they see problems they post about it and warn players. just like they did with the ashlands changes.

Just FYI, I did exactly that, I did not venture anywhere. I went to the nearest queen I could find. Still got f-ed.

[Cattastrafy]

Originally posted by CombatWombat:

Originally posted by Nerevar:

no it should not. as a new world is never REQUIRED at all aslong as the player knows what they are doing. i have been useing my release map all the way till mistlands without problems. and my mistlands map since mistlands. no problems either.
mistlands was the biggest chance to map terrian they ever did simply because the biome spreads. so way bigger areas where affected. while the moment they confirmed that ashlands and deep north wouldnt spread and be isolated instead it was clear : aslong as you stay the ♥♥♥♥ away from the north and south map edges your world is fine.

people who say its its "obvious to start all over with a major update" arent paying attention at all. valheims characters arent world bound. so makeing new characters each time is definitly never required nor obvious. its the total opposite. the sole exception is if the devs make changes to characters or how skill leveling works. then a restart is a good idea of course. but when there is zero changes? why? game is clearly designed to be played longterm.

like when an update clearcut shows that it has zero changes for the first half of the game then why replay that same content you already did again for no good reason?

you do that when there is a major addition thats new for said content. but there wasnt. especially not with ashlands at all.

so aslong as you didnt venture down south (or north for the next and last biome) your world is FINE.

major terrian changes outside of these 2 unfinished biomes aint happening anymore according to the devs.

and unexplored parts of the map will auto update themselfs just fine aswell.

alot of players keep thier maps or wanna keep thier maps because they build a cool ass base and wanna get a use out of that base for future updates. of course when you do that as a player you should make sure to build it somewhere where new changes are the least likely to affect it overall. the devs just wont give an assurance that old maps will keep working. but they always TEST new updates with way older maps aswell just to see how they will react. and when they see problems they post about it and warn players. just like they did with the ashlands changes.

Just FYI, I did exactly that, I did not venture anywhere. I went to the nearest queen I could find. Still got f-ed.

Yeap.

And to Nerevar, I'm not sure where I said make a new character, I said new world lol.

[Nerevar]

you said "NEW GAME". that normally means everything.

Originally posted by Cattastrafy:

No offense, but it's fairly obvious that you should start a completely new game after each major update.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by CombatWombat:

Just FYI, I did exactly that, I did not venture anywhere. I went to the nearest queen I could find. Still got f-ed.

your map shown in the other thread shows you ventured into the deep north and very close to it aswell on other parts. and you went there and didnt bother to fight her either. why go there when you dont plan on fighting her?

[CombatWombat]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

Originally posted by CombatWombat:

Just FYI, I did exactly that, I did not venture anywhere. I went to the nearest queen I could find. Still got f-ed.

your map shown in the other thread shows you ventured into the deep north and very close to it aswell on other parts. and you went there and didnt bother to fight her either. why go there when you dont plan on fighting her?

None of your business and not the problem. It was also the only way there as you can see the island is extremely long to the south. Anyway old biomes should not regenerate with new content at all.

As someone else put it perfectly, the devs show no respect for the players time.


Edit: One last thing. I was able to fix my world, because apparently modders can update a world without breaking things while devs don't care. If anyone is interested:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/892970/discussions/0/6171700864781197940/?tscn=1718390286#c6171700864787823795