Ashlands - Magic or Melee? (Advice for solo play please)

[HangarPilot]

Every run I always follow the same progression ... I start building my club skill right away because the Iron Mace will be my weapon of choice for Bonemass and Frostner for Yagluth. Paired with shield to get the parry and then give the beat down.

As soon as I can make the bronze atgeir I start working my polearm skill as well. The secondary attack of the pole arm is simply devastating in it's ability to knockback/stun and works great crowd control (greydwarves, fulings, seekers). It's ability to cheese and clip through walls and kill mobs on the other side of doors comes in handy in dungeons too!

And we must not forget the bow. The ability to one-shot from range, kite mobs, and frost-arrow a beserker to death before he can reach you is awesome.

Food mix: x1 Stamina, 2x Health (best available of course).

I dabbled in magic and I see the appeal.

But it doesn't seem viable eating a single eitr food. If I eat x1 eitr x2 heath ... I seem effective at nothing. Eitr drains too quickly and I burn what little stamina I have running away while the eitr recharges. Eating x1 eitr x1 stamina x1 health seems to be ok and the magic output is good ... but now I'm a "glass cannon" and can't take a hit.

The magic is quite fun if you go "backwards" to an earlier biome with it... but seems like a recipe for disaster trying to break into a new one (Ashlands).

I just made it to the Ashlands yesterday. Frostner, Himminafl, and Spinesnap are doing ok ... but I'm not having "fun" being overwhelmed. Health Mead and Bonemass power when it gets spicy is keeping me alive (barely).

My personal embargo on spoilers has come to an end so I hit up YT ... seems the most popular opinion is magic is the best way to go.

Is it? If so, how do I make it viable without ending up as a "glass cannon"?

[Faceplant]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Nerevar:

the new jump boost is so silly OP you can charge up a sword special WHILE jumping over an enemy and hit them while thier attack misses^^

Bingo!

I'm new to Ashlands, but apparently landed next to a fortress. Maybe it's normal, but if I fart a hoard of charred come over to investigate. Jumping over those warriors has been great fun!

[c0mad0r]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Nerevar:

the new jump boost is so silly OP you can charge up a sword special WHILE jumping over an enemy and hit them while thier attack misses^^

Bingo!

I'm new to Ashlands, but apparently landed next to a fortress. Maybe it's normal, but if I fart a hoard of charred come over to investigate. Jumping over those warriors has been great fun!

It's funny how quickly one can make a bench, build some stairs and assault a tower all while playing the kite leap frog against mobs of assaulting foes.

Suggestion: Take out the first skugg ballista using any missile attack before building anything. Once you make some stairs and go over the edge, take out those monuments (burning wood triagle spawners) followed by the archers, then go for the wizards and remaining warriors. Do not be afraid to go back to the stairs to regain some stamina and ALWAYS have a nearby portal built!

[Steve]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Steve the Player of Games:

Nah, Feather Cape is just lazy play. Its primary use is Mistlands if you don't know how to slide or climb down cliffs. Feather Cape just encourages bad habits that'll get most casuals killed in Ashlands.

That 1.6 off my stam usage for NtT is stupid useful on a pool of 211 stam. That's an extra attack, more wiggle room for dodging and MUCH more for blocking. That's great for my preferred playstyle. I'm a tank. I get into the mix with multiple weapons, not just distance and not just agility tanking.

I DO bring the parry to Ashlands, because I know how to position my enemies and maneuver around them so as to get them to attack the same place as the same time. Stagger as many as you can, get in your free shot, block again to stagger what you missed (or keep going ham if you do your positioning properly, gotta LOVE when that happens!) and repeat until they're all dead.

Fader, of course, is a different story. This isn't a guide for handling him, though. XD

casuals get killed either way. feather cape is goated as ever now even more with 20% more jump height. ah i see. you still block and dodge in ashlands. so you havent mastered the combat system yet.

This coming from a feather cape user. XD

[Darren Daulton]

Been playing Ashlands with friends. But they aren't always on. So i like to scout ahead solo and at least find us the next point of interest whether it be a cave or a fortress or ruin, mark it on the map and share to table.

I've been experimenting with surviving solo myself. The best solution for me so far has been a full set of askvin and a feather cape. I use the lightning ash bow, and frost arrows, i carry a meads for stam, fire resist, and health, and those things that make the platforms in the lava. I use 2 stan and a health for food.

This basically allows me to either bow down everything or just run.

[Steve]

I swap between heavy melee and mage depending on mood. For melee, I like flametal armor+ashen cape. Storm slayer, flametal shield, storm spear, vine berserkir axes, vine flametal mace, demolisher, ripper. harpoon kept in backpack as well. Feather cape I keep around to jump between ashlands islands via the spires, that's about it. 2H+1S food. Ask set is a lot of fun and the windrunner cape is great IMO. But I like the heavy armor more although the set bonus is lame.

Usually carry 3-4 health pots, 3-4 stam pots, & 2-3 lingering stam.

For mage, I bring all staffs with Dundr being my least used, and use a storm spear as my melee. 2E+1S food.

Same pots as above, but lingering stam I replace w/ eitr pot.

Both are great fun, and both styles are completely viable in Ashalands.

[Nerevar]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Nerevar:

the new jump boost is so silly OP you can charge up a sword special WHILE jumping over an enemy and hit them while thier attack misses^^

Bingo!

I'm new to Ashlands, but apparently landed next to a fortress. Maybe it's normal, but if I fart a hoard of charred come over to investigate. Jumping over those warriors has been great fun!

get into the fort and make it yours. congratz. you completed entire ashlands progression^^

[Nerevar]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Steve the Player of Games:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Nerevar:

casuals get killed either way. feather cape is goated as ever now even more with 20% more jump height. ah i see. you still block and dodge in ashlands. so you havent mastered the combat system yet.

This coming from a feather cape user. XD

imagine thinking gravity beeing disabled is not an OP item. casual.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Steve:

I swap between heavy melee and mage depending on mood. For melee, I like flametal armor+ashen cape. Storm slayer, flametal shield, storm spear, vine berserkir axes, vine flametal mace, demolisher, ripper. harpoon kept in backpack as well. Feather cape I keep around to jump between ashlands islands via the spires, that's about it. 2H+1S food. Ask set is a lot of fun and the windrunner cape is great IMO. But I like the heavy armor more although the set bonus is lame.

Usually carry 3-4 health pots, 3-4 stam pots, & 2-3 lingering stam.

For mage, I bring all staffs with Dundr being my least used, and use a storm spear as my melee. 2E+1S food.

Same pots as above, but lingering stam I replace w/ eitr pot.

Both are great fun, and both styles are completely viable in Ashalands.

while it does still work of course the spear is by far the worst weapon for ashlands enemies in generel (yes bacon i can hear you heavy breathing over there relax and keep useing your spear despite this fact). this is simply due to everything resisting pierce dmg by 50% aside asksvins and valks. so the spears actual dmg is half of what it lists at pretty much all times.

for lighting the generel rule is "the faster it attacks the better lighting becomes" the slower it is the worst it becomes.

[Nerevar]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Darren Daulton:

Been playing Ashlands with friends. But they aren't always on. So i like to scout ahead solo and at least find us the next point of interest whether it be a cave or a fortress or ruin, mark it on the map and share to table.

I've been experimenting with surviving solo myself. The best solution for me so far has been a full set of askvin and a feather cape. I use the lightning ash bow, and frost arrows, i carry a meads for stam, fire resist, and health, and those things that make the platforms in the lava. I use 2 stan and a health for food.

This basically allows me to either bow down everything or just run.

2 stamina foods? are you playing default settings? cause i am pretty sure a 2 star asksvin can oneshot with just 1 hp food and light armor.

[Megatron]

A true viking goes to Ashlands naked with his big ass axe and his big long dong !

He doesn't jump around in Feather cape like a bloody ballerina and is definitively not wearing super-heavy-heat-protecting-armour like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ !

I think this ends this discussion :D

[Faceplant]

You get to use an axe?

In my day we killed charred warriors naked, with our bare hands, until they chopped our hands off and left us with two bloody stumps. Then we killed them with out bare feet until the chopped our legs off and we were just a body, and head, and 4 bloody stumps. Then we killed them by flopping up against them like a bloody stump seal out of water.

And we liked it!

[Darren Daulton]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Nerevar:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Darren Daulton:

Been playing Ashlands with friends. But they aren't always on. So i like to scout ahead solo and at least find us the next point of interest whether it be a cave or a fortress or ruin, mark it on the map and share to table.

I've been experimenting with surviving solo myself. The best solution for me so far has been a full set of askvin and a feather cape. I use the lightning ash bow, and frost arrows, i carry a meads for stam, fire resist, and health, and those things that make the platforms in the lava. I use 2 stan and a health for food.

This basically allows me to either bow down everything or just run.

2 stamina foods? are you playing default settings? cause i am pretty sure a 2 star asksvin can oneshot with just 1 hp food and light armor.

Correction - It's 2 health and a stam.