One staff for one spell? Why no hand casting?

[Giozao]

Wouldn't it be better if we could cast our spells directly from our hands instead of swaping from staff to staff to change the spell?

It would also increase the possibility of having new spells because the way it is now and with the development of the game, we will see a full row of the inventory just with staves.

I like to have all four available spells with me but with the progression of the game, it may collapse due new additions, because in my opinion, I think in the future we will see new spells and mage related stuff.

[Flare |UKCS|]

How would you map the spells to 1 item (your hands ?), remember you cant use extra keys on the keyboard because Xbox and Controller support, you could put each spell on the toolbar, but that is basically what the staves do now... so I am curious if you had a solution for this.

[Giozao]

Originally posted by Flare |UKCS|:

How would you map the spells to 1 item (your hands ?), remember you cant use extra keys on the keyboard because Xbox and Controller support, you could put each spell on the toolbar, but that is basically what the staves do now... so I am curious if you had a solution for this.

I used to play Skyrim and there we have a spell list so we choose the spell we want and cast from hands. What do you think? About a spell list?

[Flare |UKCS|]

Ok, but how would you call this list up on demand with the restrictions of being on PC and XboxS ?
Cant pause or slow the game while selecting as well.
Cant really change the basic scheme (attack , special attack and defend (which enables the dodge roll)).

I am not against the idea, I just am struggling to see how you would add it without breaking the control scheme of all the other weapons.

[Nerevar]

youll replace some of the current staffs anyway. they wont stay useful all the way till the end due to the way progression works. for example the fire staff wont be all that useful in the ashland as its mostly FIRE based for the enemies.

the summoned skeletons arent all that useful due to terrian issues to begin with and they are already MAXED out right now unlike the elemental staffs which have yet to get 2 more upgrades in the future.

the bubble staff. the oddball one. pretty much required if you wanna go full mage.

but given there is only 2 biomes left anyway i doubt that many tools will get released for magic to begin with.

its a choice for the player according to the devs. you can go full magic. you can also just use only 1 staff.

if you could cast everything without a tool magic would be grossly OP. and its already strong right now.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by Giozao:

Originally posted by Flare |UKCS|:

How would you map the spells to 1 item (your hands ?), remember you cant use extra keys on the keyboard because Xbox and Controller support, you could put each spell on the toolbar, but that is basically what the staves do now... so I am curious if you had a solution for this.

I used to play Skyrim and there we have a spell list so we choose the spell we want and cast from hands. What do you think? About a spell list?

this isnt casulrim. and skyrims spell system was trash. in oblivion you could cast a fireball with a sword in hand. was removed for no good reason other than dumbing down.

[Turt]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

this isnt casulrim. and skyrims spell system was trash. in oblivion you could cast a fireball with a sword in hand. was removed for no good reason other than dumbing down.

You can have both a spell and sword equipped at the same time in Skyrim. Not in Morrowind or anything older tho.

[Giozao]

I started playing as a full mage and I have with me all the four staves, and I swap according to the demand of enemies and my eitr. But with the game progression, more spells could be added and we can see more staves, which isn't good because there will be a stack of staves in the inventory.

About the staves, I use firstly the protection otherwise you can get hit kill, then I swap from fire to frost according to the enemies and summon skeletons so I can level up blood magic as well, that's why I carry all four.

[Rhapsody]

Staff of embers alone is overpowered enough for current content. One spell weapon at a time is good enough.

[Giozao]

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

Staff of embers alone is overpowered enough for current content. One spell weapon at a time is good enough.

I disagree. We shouldn't be limited to use only a few spells if there can be plenty available.

[jonnin]

we need wabbajack!
didn't see that one coming, did you?

and no spellmaker = dead TES game to me. I hated skyrim's nerfdown.

here, viking lore had staves, a symbol of status as religious person or magicianish thing

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by Turt:

Originally posted by Nerevar:

this isnt casulrim. and skyrims spell system was trash. in oblivion you could cast a fireball with a sword in hand. was removed for no good reason other than dumbing down.

You can have both a spell and sword equipped at the same time in Skyrim. Not in Morrowind or anything older tho.

you could have that in oblivion already. but you where still able to use a shield aswell. not the case in skyrim.

in morrowind you could jump trough the game and actually jump higher and farther and run faster etc as you leveled up. removed in casulrim cause dumbing down. oh and you could LEVITATE. also removed. skyrim is a bad tes game.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by Giozao:

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

Staff of embers alone is overpowered enough for current content. One spell weapon at a time is good enough.

I disagree. We shouldn't be limited to use only a few spells if there can be plenty available.

you dont need need all 4 spells ever. and dead raiser and protection staff are already MAXED OUT right now. so they wont improve anymore.

[Giozao]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

Originally posted by Turt:

You can have both a spell and sword equipped at the same time in Skyrim. Not in Morrowind or anything older tho.

you could have that in oblivion already. but you where still able to use a shield aswell. not the case in skyrim.

in morrowind you could jump trough the game and actually jump higher and farther and run faster etc as you leveled up. removed in casulrim cause dumbing down. oh and you could LEVITATE. also removed. skyrim is a bad tes game.

Let's try not to get too far off topic.

[Giozao]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

Originally posted by Giozao:

I disagree. We shouldn't be limited to use only a few spells if there can be plenty available.

you dont need need all 4 spells ever. and dead raiser and protection staff are already MAXED OUT right now. so they wont improve anymore.

Who said I don't need? Of course I need. I like to summon the thralls to help me in combat and also to level up Blood Magic, which is only by having these staves in posses (dead raiser and protection).

[Weyrlock]

Even though, most devs follow this trend, of limitating keys shortcuts on pc, to stay somewhat close to what you can do on a controller/console; it doesn't mean it's not a stupid and probably, lazy decision.