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electricdawn Jul 19, 2024 @ 1:14am
Mistlands - To Mage, or not to Mage...
Sooo... I'm sorta at a crossroads here in regards to my Mistlands strategy.

SPOILER ALERT: If you don't want spoilers in regards to Mistlands, do not continue reading! You have been warned!

Moving on: I've found my dvergr extractor (through sheer luck), cores, soft tissue, marble, got the t-shirt, and refined my sap, with what tiny amount of soft tissue I was able to scrape out of that giant's skull.

I got some 22 refined eitr, and now I'm at an impasse.

22 refined eitr doesn't get you very far if you want to be a mage. It DOES get you much further when you stay the true way of the viking and build yourself that not-so-shiny carapace set.

The question is: Should I keep my 22 eitr and try to find more of it (again, soft tissue!), or should I just say, nah, to helya with it, I just go, "This is the way", and build myself the carapace set?

I've been pondering this question for a few days now and still haven't decided on what to do. Maybe your experiences can help me there? I'd be glad if you could share some of them below.

Please do not spoil too much, I'd like some hints into what direction you went and why.

Thanks a lot for your time! It is appreciated.
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Macdallan Jul 19, 2024 @ 1:21am 
You could have used this...
OctoberSky Jul 19, 2024 @ 1:26am 
If this is your first refined eitr, may I recommend this[valheim.fandom.com].
electricdawn Jul 19, 2024 @ 1:29am 
My apologies, I forgot to mention that the feathered cape was the first thing I made. Who doesn't want to have a Medivh-style feather cape that also helps you climb and descend steep terrain? ;)

@Macdallan, your hidden link doesn't go anywhere, I'm afraid.
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Macdallan Jul 19, 2024 @ 1:48am 
Originally posted by electricdawn:
My apologies, I forgot to mention that the feathered cape was the first thing I made. Who doesn't want to have a Medivh-style feather cape that also helps you climb and descend steep terrain? ;)

@Macdallan, your hidden link doesn't go anywhere, I'm afraid.

It's not a hidden link. It was a subtle suggestion to use the spoiler markup tag to hide your spoilers. I guess it was too subtle...
OctoberSky Jul 19, 2024 @ 2:06am 
Originally posted by electricdawn:
My apologies, I forgot to mention that the feathered cape was the first thing I made.

No worries. I've been taking 6 characters on individual solo playthroughs because I was interested in seeing how higher skills in certain weapon classes - sword, club, spear, axe, knife and bow - would fare in each biome. But it was getting obvious that such specializations were limited given the immunities, resistances and weaknesses displayed by opponents in each biome not to mention any weapon upgrade that those same biomes made available. So by Mistlands it was much easier to re-purpose two of my characters to go the mage path even though - as a person who does value skill growth - it meant starting from scratch with blood and elemental magic skills. Of the 6 characters, the mages have completed their Ashlands and the warriors are still slogging through. They did fine in Mistlands but Ashlands is a different challenge altogether. So, long story short - both?
electricdawn Jul 19, 2024 @ 2:30am 
@Macdallan, DOH! My apologies... It seems I'm not a man of subtlety... :P
@OctoberSky, thank you for your experience. It seems, mage is some way to go.

I've decided to make a special save for my world and character, and then go from there. This way I can always fall back to that save in case it doesn't work out.

Cheating? Maybe. I just call it an insurance... :D

Please keep your experiences coming, I value them greatly. Thanks a lot!
adritheonly Jul 19, 2024 @ 3:04am 
Originally posted by electricdawn:
@Macdallan, DOH! My apologies... It seems I'm not a man of subtlety... :P
@OctoberSky, thank you for your experience. It seems, mage is some way to go.

I've decided to make a special save for my world and character, and then go from there. This way I can always fall back to that save in case it doesn't work out.

Cheating? Maybe. I just call it an insurance... :D

Please keep your experiences coming, I value them greatly. Thanks a lot!
By personal preference I always make the heavy armor first and then the sword and shield. I've never worn magic armor. Against seeker, soldiers melee are excellent. The fire staff is good for gjalls but so are bows. Demolisher for when you're crawling with ticks.
ministrog Jul 19, 2024 @ 3:52am 
Originally posted by adritheonly:
Originally posted by electricdawn:
@Macdallan, DOH! My apologies... It seems I'm not a man of subtlety... :P
@OctoberSky, thank you for your experience. It seems, mage is some way to go.

I've decided to make a special save for my world and character, and then go from there. This way I can always fall back to that save in case it doesn't work out.

Cheating? Maybe. I just call it an insurance... :D

Please keep your experiences coming, I value them greatly. Thanks a lot!
By personal preference I always make the heavy armor first and then the sword and shield. I've never worn magic armor. Against seeker, soldiers melee are excellent. The fire staff is good for gjalls but so are bows. Demolisher for when you're crawling with ticks.
same here, i'll get around to magic eventually.

@electricdawn as it is right now, the game would favour magic when you get access to it. the second best equipment is really your hammer. specifically pre-load up your campfire and of course keep some wood and stone. the weight limit will prevent extra drops from being soaked up. you'll be less tempted to micromanage on the field.

more importantly, after every major fight going forward you can lay down those campfires to suppress "invisible" spawns. keep in mind, imho, i don't really think they get suppressed more so than moved. you'll see more dense packs just out of range of the campfire's influence. just be aware of that part.

as for build, nothing out there says you can't mix and match. i got my sword just in case i need to swat away ticks but recently taking a liking to ooze bomb and other stinky thrown munitions. it's not so great on the the bigger bugs, but as bow user, it saves me from wasting arrows on small fries. if you do go caraspace armour, you'd want an aoe weapon like that 2h hammer. also the helmet doesn't have a movement penalty so grab that too.
UncleAcidic Jul 19, 2024 @ 8:03am 
Magic is pretty boss but the main issue for me was changing how I think about battle. As a mage, you can’t tank hits. The protection bubble works well but I had to realize that my life is now dodging, never blocking, or even engaging at close range ever. It’s not easy to play the game for over a thousand hours with one mindset only to change that mindset completely. But if you do, the rewards are great. Magic is OP out of the box. I took down the queen in under 15 minutes. Died twice, but both were just me not keeping the bubble up.
Kackstift Jul 19, 2024 @ 9:06am 
for playing alone i recommend 1.5 times ressources
Zombits (Banned) Jul 19, 2024 @ 9:42am 
I''d craft a feather cape first and then mage gear . will make you op to craft melee stuff after
Happy Jul 20, 2024 @ 1:09am 
Personally I did both. Make all the things, try everything out at least. Gather more soft tissue than you need & you will have enough for all the weapons you like. Also strongly recommend 3x resources, you'll get heaps more Soft Tissue, Sap & by extension, Refined Eitr this way, a perfect way for quickly gathering resources for more gear.

I'd say for now your priorities would be Station Upgrades> Feather Cape> Mistwalker> Spinesnap> any other Armour & weapons you want.

Also if you do end up going for mage gear, go back to the swamp to level it up, everything there is either weak to fire, blunt, or frost, or a combination of both and the 2 elemental staffs have this in each cast you make against them.
electricdawn Jul 20, 2024 @ 1:36am 
Gather more soft tissue than you need & you will have enough for all the weapons you like.

If it would be that easy, I'd done it. ;)

From what I understand, soft tissue is a very rare and finite resource. I only found so much I could make 22 refined eitr, and I haven't found more since. That's probably partially due to me heading south to find Mistlands, instead of east, west or north.

I found one region of Mistlands with one skeleton and one mine. Then I found two other very small patches right at the coast. Further south, just north of Ashlands, I found a fairly large, submerged region of Mistlands. Only the peaks show.

This region has the advantage of mostly not having any mist, so I could spot mines from afar. It has two mines, but you can't seem to find a jotunn skeleton on the peaks. They are in the (submerged) valleys.

Looks like I have to head more east- or westwards.
Last edited by electricdawn; Jul 20, 2024 @ 1:41am
adritheonly Jul 20, 2024 @ 2:18am 
Originally posted by electricdawn:
Gather more soft tissue than you need & you will have enough for all the weapons you like.

If it would be that easy, I'd done it. ;)

From what I understand, soft tissue is a very rare and finite resource. I only found so much I could make 22 refined eitr, and I haven't found more since. That's probably partially due to me heading south to find Mistlands, instead of east, west or north.

I found one region of Mistlands with one skeleton and one mine. Then I found two other very small patches right at the coast. Further south, just north of Ashlands, I found a fairly large, submerged region of Mistlands. Only the peaks show.

This region has the advantage of mostly not having any mist, so I could spot mines from afar. It has two mines, but you can't seem to find a jotunn skeleton on the peaks. They are in the (submerged) valleys.

Looks like I have to head more east- or westwards.
Yes, I found the Queen to the east and also Yagluth and Moder on the new seed I started after the Ashland upgrade. Maybe I just got a lucky seed but found many skulls, more than I will ever need. Search on the furthest concentric ring from spawn on the map. The journey is long (took me 4 game days) but once there you can stick down a portal.
Happy Jul 20, 2024 @ 2:48am 
Originally posted by electricdawn:
Gather more soft tissue than you need & you will have enough for all the weapons you like.

If it would be that easy, I'd done it. ;)

From what I understand, soft tissue is a very rare and finite resource. I only found so much I could make 22 refined eitr, and I haven't found more since. That's probably partially due to me heading south to find Mistlands, instead of east, west or north.

I found one region of Mistlands with one skeleton and one mine. Then I found two other very small patches right at the coast. Further south, just north of Ashlands, I found a fairly large, submerged region of Mistlands. Only the peaks show.

This region has the advantage of mostly not having any mist, so I could spot mines from afar. It has two mines, but you can't seem to find a jotunn skeleton on the peaks. They are in the (submerged) valleys.

Looks like I have to head more east- or westwards.
Tissue is not Finte at all, You can get it from Anglerfish at any Mistlands shore. Whoever told you it is finite is clearly wrong. You just need fishing bait, Lox Trophies, 10 or so anglers to catch & release, and a lit cauldron to make the misty bait. I got probably 20-30% of my total armour & weapons this way, even made back up gear with it.

Otherwise you'll be sailing & searching for more skulls for more tissue in other areas, could take a while to do that. By getting bonus resources from fishing, you can control how much you get at a random chance, provided you prepared beforehand.
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Date Posted: Jul 19, 2024 @ 1:14am
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