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Draconis Jul 8, 2024 @ 6:12am
Starred charred spawn chances
Within my first 4 or 5 ingame days in the Ashlands I encountered two double-starred charred warriors near my beachhead.

I don't spend the nichts there to avoid just that, because when you are new to the biome without much of new nutrition or even gear, these encounters can get hairy.

I did not find anything on the wiki regarding the chance to meet charred warriors with stars, so I'd like to know if there is actually a higher chance for those 2-star warriors or if RNG just doesn't like me again... (well, actually I'm quite sure it doesn't like me, my fist Asksvin was starred, too....)

What I checked and hence can exclude from possible explanations:
- Spawners
There were a few normal spawners around, but I took them down asap. And these are not able to spawn starred warriors anyway. And there is no sign of a purple spawner nearby.

- Daytime
I never stay in the Ashlands at night. I return to base in the evening, and return in the moring.
Or should I wait a little longer after my wiking gets up before I return to Ashlands?


P.S.: Although hairy, it was still doable. Thanks to the demolisher in one case and the frost staff in another. As long as there are not many more enemies around I can deal with those guys, But especially with the frost staff it took long enough to have respawns nearby that join the fight.... luckily one of them was a Morgen, so I could circle the foes until the Morgen smashed most of them.
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Booneblaster Jul 8, 2024 @ 6:19am 
theres a lot of starred dudes in the ashlands. bit extra rng, but that's typical
Booneblaster Jul 8, 2024 @ 6:22am 
you'll want to raid the fortresses. easier than it sounds because of the huge walls that box them in. take out the spawners inside asap. get the jade drops from the chests (not guaranteed), and craft a new magic plant staff. these are great/highly effective for the ashlands.
Draconis Jul 8, 2024 @ 6:31am 
Originally posted by Booneblaster:
you'll want to raid the fortresses. easier than it sounds because of the huge walls that box them in. take out the spawners inside asap. get the jade drops from the chests (not guaranteed), and craft a new magic plant staff. these are great/highly effective for the ashlands.

I'll do so when I find one. Step by step. Right now I fortified my beachhead, cleared the near area from spawners, found some molten cores and set up stone portals... next I'll start to scout around carefully, look for some flamemetal in the lava at the horizon.
This will do for kitchen enhancement, battering ram and maybe the better shield already. And then I'll visit those charred and tell them what I think :D
Booneblaster Jul 8, 2024 @ 6:46am 
yep. we did the same. i'm sure you didnt forget your base shield.
btw, the fortresses also yield big stacks of flame metal and some molten core stands.
although i havnt yet, they make great bases too. but you'll need a battering ram to fully loot one. raiding with magic staves makes it fairly straight forward.
just take care on those metal nodes. they have a surface which glitches out your character into a freefall pose. choose a node right on the edge, easy to get back on land. and use a magic shield bubble, so you can slide into the shallow magma, be okay, fix the glitch and jump to safety real quick. just my advice. good luck
Draconis Jul 8, 2024 @ 6:50am 
Originally posted by Booneblaster:
yep. we did the same. i'm sure you didnt forget your base shield.
btw, the fortresses also yield big stacks of flame metal and some molten core stands.
although i havnt yet, they make great bases too. but you'll need a battering ram to fully loot one. raiding with magic staves makes it fairly straight forward.
just take care on those metal nodes. they have a surface which glitches out your character into a freefall pose. choose a node right on the edge, easy to get back on land. and use a magic shield bubble, so you can slide into the shallow magma, be okay, fix the glitch and jump to safety real quick. just my advice. good luck

Thanks. I know most of this already, this is the second time I play a world to ashlands.

I'll take a shield generator with me to the flametal pillars, so the lava eruptions don't kick me into lava.
The glitch only happened once to me, and that was in a place where the lavaiathan overlapped with a rock. Never had this on freely standing lavaiathans.
Draconis Jul 9, 2024 @ 5:43am 
Back to part of my questions... Do we get nighttime-spawns in the timespan between waking up and the daybreak (i.e. when the number of the new day is shown on the screen)?

Beause... maybe I was just too impatient when I returned to the Ashlands in the morning?
OctoberSky Jul 9, 2024 @ 5:51am 
Outside of Lord Reto's sites, I probably only encountered 1 2-star warrior and that was actually near my very first fortress. Not sure about the night spawns but we have all probably witnessed them walking away and vanishing by sunrise.
glass zebra Jul 9, 2024 @ 7:39am 
My archer had the Reto place just after the first forest I entered (like 100m from the beach I landed on) and like 5 minutes after I entered Ashlands there were 2 star enemies everywhere (chopping the forest needed extra care, since were definitely in range of that).

Does that count?

After entering Ashlands with 6 chars, I'd say you just had bad luck. Half of them meet a 1star at the beach (not really an issue with tank ship + feather cape) and I did see quite a few 2 starred charred spawns in general, but that is probably due to how many spawn. I've only seen 2 1 star Morgens, quite a few 1 star Asksvin and no 2 star ones except the charred so far. The wiki claims Morgens can only spawn with stars in holes, which is wrong. Luckily charred are just too bad to be more than sponges and scary. No idea how many of those were at night though. Not sure if night does much in Ashlands to be honest - it hardly feels different except for sight.

If you are a hammer user, I would suggest to try out 1h hammer altfire on warriors instead of the frost staff. Does not need Eitr and kills faster. If you want to use Eitr and do AOE damage, you could use the staff of embers instead of the Demolisher. It is similar or more damage, faster attack speed and has range. The knockback of a well timed hit makes sure they can't really hit you due to how slow they are. I'd also suggest to look less into the wiki until the information is a bit more refined. Right now there are many wrong things written in there bout Ashlands, like how the mage staves work or what stats some enemies have (e.g. archers have 200 dmg listed instead of their actual 100).
Last edited by glass zebra; Jul 9, 2024 @ 8:24am
ministrog Jul 9, 2024 @ 8:00am 
iirc, the further out from spawn (center of map) the more chances starred enemies can appear. can anyone else confirm hearing the same thing? personally, i've not notice this mechanic but it would make sense. also makes ashland even more dangerous.
glass zebra Jul 9, 2024 @ 8:04am 
Originally posted by ministrog:
iirc, the further out from spawn (center of map) the more chances starred enemies can appear. can anyone else confirm hearing the same thing? personally, i've not notice this mechanic but it would make sense. also makes ashland even more dangerous.
The mechanic is kind of made the other way around: the center of the world blocks certain creatures from having stars at all, based on distance threshold for specific creatures. You won't see a starred troll spwaning within ~2000 meters of the world center.

Spawners have a higher chance (15% instead of 10% per level) to roll stars if the wiki is correct.
Last edited by glass zebra; Jul 9, 2024 @ 8:31am
☆Toveri☆ Jul 9, 2024 @ 11:11am 
Fortress was easier then expected, range/magic down ballistas then catapult a basic wall (goes down easier then main gate), charge in and destroy spawners, kill skellies but be carefull of warlocks! then mine your self in to mid tower for loot (for me corners felt easiest way in).

BUT

I found ¨spawner or something¨ that only spawns mobs with TWO STARS! Instantly made 180 turn and went back to base and cryied.
Draconis Jul 11, 2024 @ 1:45pm 
Well, it seems it really was just bad luck.

I never encountered a single two star warrior again yet. Now that I have upgraded ashlands weapons and armor... so yeah, RNG was like: "Let's get the heavy ones out while that viking is still weak"
Had the same with draugrs in the swamp actually... on my first day there I met several starred draugrs, later when I had some gear they somehow became less.

Sometimes Valheim fells like a viking-themed casino game, with all that heavy influence of luck. Beginning with "wrong spawn in the wrong moment" and going on with sparse black cores in the mistlands of one is unlucky.

Not sure if anyone thinks so too, but to me it's actually a bit too dependent on luck in many situations.
ministrog Jul 11, 2024 @ 6:15pm 
nah, i call it human nature to just remember the "oh shii" moments. what helps is when good things happen, take a screenshot! i did exactly that when i found a tetra lake cave.

the flip side, had two drake raids back to back. thought all my unprotected 1 star boars died the first time, then found a baby running around. as soon as i found it, the second raid happened.
Last edited by ministrog; Jul 11, 2024 @ 6:19pm
Booneblaster Jul 13, 2024 @ 3:31pm 
Originally posted by Draconis:
Sometimes Valheim fells like a viking-themed casino game, with all that heavy influence of luck. Beginning with "wrong spawn in the wrong moment" and going on with sparse black cores in the mistlands of one is unlucky.
Not sure if anyone thinks so too, but to me it's actually a bit too dependent on luck in many situations.

personally, i can really appreciate the philosophical approach to our experiences.
spoken like a true victim of las vegas.
actually, sometimes i wonder if our subconscious does effect things like our valheim gameplay.
but yeah. it did seem to me is was a rough rng moment on the black shores.
Fleshling Jul 16, 2024 @ 8:31am 
I think only the one star enemies have a chance to spawn during the daytime. However, two star enemies can spawn from the effigies of malice. So if you see a two star out in the day, there is likely a spawner nearby.
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