Serpent stew physics (just some thought)

[Draconis]

Well... as I'm just cooking a few bowls of serpent stew (well.. about 130 of these) one thing comes to my mind....

A piece of serpent meat, cooked or raw, weighs 10 (I assume kg). Mushroom 0.1 each, honey 0.2, makes 0.4 per stew (rhyme not intended). So the ingredients weigh 10.5. Well, that is - their mass is 10.5 kg.

The cooked stew weighs 1. That's 9.5 kg. And that mass must go somewhere! It's not in the cauldron. The cauldron stays the same, always. So that seemingly lost mass must have been transformed to energy.

well.... that's (if Einstein was right) 9.5 times light speed squared, so...
9.5 kg * [299792458]² m/²s² which is roughly 8.54*10^17 kg*m²/s²
so... 854000000000000000 Joule of Energy....

Well, I could not find any good comparison quickly (my first guess was the sun, but that is in a scale of 10^26 , so too much more to actually compare this)

But the next time you cook serpent stew, be careful not to blow up your base :D

[knighttemplar1960]

Its not that hard to figure out. Serpent meat is 99% water and most of the weight boils out while cooking.

[Draconis]

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

Its not that hard to figure out. Serpent meat is 99% water and most of the weight boils out while cooking.

Well, you cook the serpent meat before you put it into the stew.
And the cooked meat still weighs the same. So... wouldn't all the water evaporate while that meat hangs above the fire?

[Faceplant]

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

Its not that hard to figure out. Serpent meat is 99% water and most of the weight boils out while cooking.

Hold on! :-)

First you cook the meat over a fire, which is most likely where the water would "boil" out (how to you "boil" water of of something in a pot of water?)

Unfortunately, that would remove 9 liters of water. That's alot of water to just burn off in steam. That would also require 3MJ of energy!

Fortunately, we can sidestep that problem, since cooked serpent meat is the same weight as raw serpent meat, but that means, when you eat cooked serpent meat, you are consuming 10kg of meat! I don't think even Joey Chestnut could do that.

And now we're back to "boiling" off 9 liters of water from cooked meat by boiling the stew in a cauldron of water.

Maybe you're right? :-)

[Sono]

even weirder is the bone serpent meat, since there is no stew associated with it yet. Sure you could try to use it...but itll take all of your weight.

[OctoberSky]

Icelandic fish boils. Boilover! as all the sugar in the honey combined with a lot of the mass of the serpent (the oily parts) plus the water in the mushrooms bubble over the side of the cauldron and into the flames below. What is left is a savory stew fit for a mariner's menu. Skol!

[knighttemplar1960]

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

Its not that hard to figure out. Serpent meat is 99% water and most of the weight boils out while cooking.

Hold on! :-)

First you cook the meat over a fire, which is most likely where the water would "boil" out (how to you "boil" water of of something in a pot of water?)

Unfortunately, that would remove 9 liters of water. That's alot of water to just burn off in steam. That would also require 3MJ of energy!

Fortunately, we can sidestep that problem, since cooked serpent meat is the same weight as raw serpent meat, but that means, when you eat cooked serpent meat, you are consuming 10kg of meat! I don't think even Joey Chestnut could do that.

And now we're back to "boiling" off 9 liters of water from cooked meat by boiling the stew in a cauldron of water.

Maybe you're right? :-)

You coat the serpent meat in oil so that the water stays locked in while grilling it. Then it goes into the cauldron without any water and you just ignore it pease porridge style until 9 liters of water evaporate and then add the other ingredients.

[Zombits]

can a person really sprint for 5 mins straight with 450 lbs in his pockets.

It's a game... There is not logic to be found behind cooked food and weight

[Bored Peon]

It makes as much sense as using 2 bars of copper and 1 tin to make 1 bronze bar, lol.

Maybe we forgot to ask to have it supersized at the wagonthru?

[Zombits]

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

It makes as much sense as using 2 bars of copper and 1 tin to make 1 bronze bar, lol.

Maybe we forgot to ask to have it supersized at the wagonthru?

Bronze is a copper-based alloy that typically consists of approximately 88% copper and 12% tin

Well, they're not that far from reality here.

Might be bronze of very bad quality

I think some games, like runescape had a 1/1 ratio

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Zombits:

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

It makes as much sense as using 2 bars of copper and 1 tin to make 1 bronze bar, lol.

Maybe we forgot to ask to have it supersized at the wagonthru?

Bronze is a copper-based alloy that typically consists of approximately 88% copper and 12% tin

Well, they're not that far from reality here.

Might be bronze of very bad quality

I think some games, like runescape had a 1/1 ratio

Great explanation except you forgot one important detail....
WHERE DID THE OTHER COPPER BAR GO?

I think Odin is skimming.....

[Faceplant]

Originally posted by Zombits:

can a person really sprint for 5 mins straight with 450 lbs in his pockets.

It's a game... There is not logic to be found behind cooked food and weight

It's not just illogical. Cooked serpent meat and cooked bonemaw meat weigh 10 times what other food items weigh, which makes them mostly useless. You can put serpent meat in a stew that makes it one of the best food items in the game, but I don't even pick up bonemaw meat. What's the point. I have some in a chest that I snack on sometimes, but otherwise it just takes up space.

[glass zebra]

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

Originally posted by Zombits:

can a person really sprint for 5 mins straight with 450 lbs in his pockets.

It's a game... There is not logic to be found behind cooked food and weight

It's not just illogical. Cooked serpent meat and cooked bonemaw meat weigh 10 times what other food items weigh, which makes them mostly useless. You can put serpent meat in a stew that makes it one of the best food items in the game, but I don't even pick up bonemaw meat. What's the point. I have some in a chest that I snack on sometimes, but otherwise it just takes up space.

The point is that you get bonemaw meat before you get any other food stuff from Ashlands and it is better than any Mistland HP food, since those did not have 3 increasingly better (HP) foods, due to the first 2 having the same values. It it one of the few non-cooked foods that have values like a cooked full meal instead of some grilled meat (Asksvin and Vulture are both worse). Grilled bonemaw meat is just the food you enter Ashlands with and then you ignore it when you get the others, which is "fine" since you often do not have to ever enter water again once you landed in Ashlands. You do not really need to kill more than 1 of those in many maps (and you can ignore them and drive away too).

I still would have preferred for it to be used in the highest Ashlands HP food instead of having 3 HP foods that are all Asksvin based.

[Faceplant]

Originally posted by glass zebra:

The point is that you get bonemaw meat before you get any other food stuff from Ashlands and it is better than any Mistland HP food, since those did not have 3 increasingly better foods, due to the first 2 having the same values. It it one of the few non-cooked foods that have values like a cooked full meal instead of some grilled meat (Asksvin and Vulture are both worse). Grilled bonemaw meat is just the food you enter Ashlands with and then you ignore it when you get the others,

That just seems like rationalization, especially since serpent meat has the same problem. Maybe they'll add another stew or something to use it for.

Originally posted by glass zebra:

which is "fine" since you often do not have to ever enter water again once you landed in Ashlands. You do not really need to kill more than 1 of those in many maps.

Great timing! I just arrived home after a full day roaming around ashlands to find 5 asksvin, a morgan, and I don't know what else (because I just jumped through my portal with them trashing everything behind me) waiting for me. My only Ashlands portal went dead just after I jumped through it, so I guess I'll be building a new boat and making my way back again!

Originally posted by glass zebra:

I still would have preferred for it to be used in the highest Ashlands HP food instead of having 3 HP foods that are all Asksvin based.

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I do agree with that. I also just finished renovating the farm at my old castle, trying to figure out how to raise asksvin. They're more like chicken than the other animals, in that the eggs need fire. I just build a room under my hearth for chicken, but asksvin are obviously much bigger and tend to break stuff.

I ended up just putting them in the big farm yard and building a hearth that I could move the eggs near periodically.

Last time I had a bat raid there, the lox did significant damage. I fear what's going to happen now, but it's not hard to fix.

[glass zebra]

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

I do agree with that. I also just finished renovating the farm at my old castle, trying to figure out how to raise asksvin. They're more like chicken than the other animals, in that the eggs need fire. I just build a room under my hearth for chicken, but asksvin are obviously much bigger and tend to break stuff.

I ended up just putting them in the big farm yard and building a hearth that I could move the eggs near periodically.

Last time I had a bat raid there, the lox did significant damage. I fear what's going to happen now, but it's not hard to fix.

I have not tamed any Asksin yet, since even my chars that use 2 HP foods tend to fill up a chest with their meat just from killing the ones running around, but they will likely break some stuff. Their headbutt likes to miss even Dvergers or players that slowly backpedal with side movement, so with bats they probably just constantly ram into walls and break things. They also do friendly fire when wild, which I assume also extends to the tame version so.. they might also kill each other.

[Zatarra]

Originally posted by Draconis:

Well... as I'm just cooking a few bowls of serpent stew (well.. about 130 of these) one thing comes to my mind....

A piece of serpent meat, cooked or raw, weighs 10 (I assume kg). Mushroom 0.1 each, honey 0.2, makes 0.4 per stew (rhyme not intended). So the ingredients weigh 10.5. Well, that is - their mass is 10.5 kg.

The cooked stew weighs 1. That's 9.5 kg. And that mass must go somewhere! It's not in the cauldron. The cauldron stays the same, always. So that seemingly lost mass must have been transformed to energy.

well.... that's (if Einstein was right) 9.5 times light speed squared, so...
9.5 kg * [299792458]² m/²s² which is roughly 8.54*10^17 kg*m²/s²
so... 854000000000000000 Joule of Energy....

Well, I could not find any good comparison quickly (my first guess was the sun, but that is in a scale of 10^26 , so too much more to actually compare this)

But the next time you cook serpent stew, be careful not to blow up your base :D

Sea Serpents are from another dimension and composed mostly of dark matter. Coincidentally, the mushrooms in Valheim, in the right conditions are effective catalysts in a reaction that returns dark matter back across the veil and into its original dimension. Leaving only the meat behind.